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#27901
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I tend to keep an open mind until I gain more knowledge. I started off pro-mage in the beginning, but realize that the mages aren't ready for that. They just need a little more freedom in the circle.

The Hinterlands isn't all that bad, but I've only played DA2 4 times, so I'll need to play again one day. I only like the personal story aspects, companions, and Sarcastic Hawke. Fighting the Qunari was fun, too.

 

 

Oh the hinterlands was just an example( the worst pointless-time-waster of the maps is, hissing-wastes).



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It would have been better, than Inquisition.

 

I would certainly not discount that possibility.

 

 

Honestly, I think there was supposed to be more to it.But then, reasonable arguments about game quality turned into: 'herpa deep' lets blame the characters and protagonist for the rushed game boo hiss herpa derp. And the Devs actually listened, but missed the entire point..Hawke and the characters weren't the problem..It was the rushjob of the game itself.

 

In a better game, Hawke would have been an interesting protagonist. As it is, he was just too much of a doofus in act 3 for me to like.

 

I'm talking about the expansion being canceled. That sucks for fans who were having fun. And for what? Just to please haters?

 

I don't think it cancelled just to please the haters, but because making an expansion was seen as too unviable after the negative reaction towards DA2.

 

 

 

And what happens? People hardly come back to this either. I don't know digital sales numbers, but hard copy numbers aren't great.
 
I have been wondering, just how are the DA:I sales?


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I have no problems with DA2, in fact I liked it more than DAO, my real problem is with MotA, I really hated being shoehorned in helping Tallis without any motivation, and I dispise Tallis as a characters, there is no way for me to like that DLC.

 I think they were just trying to cash in on some nerd-cted the VA of tallis had at the time. 

 

I don't mind the Hinterlands that much. It's pretty. The general background of the story is cool. Just not executed with any depth. The mage/templars there aren't interesting aspects of that war. They're just dumbasses going crazy at each other. None of them have a story or specific demands.. or even names. Refugee quests are mmo-like. On average, DA2's sidequests were always more cinematic, dialogue heavy.. Rescuing Feynriel, killing that elf abuser in the cave, finding that guy's missing wife, etc.. These in turn branched into bigger quests in each Act. They tried to avoid pointless filler as much as possible and gave things more narrative.

 

and dai is the opposite, pointless filler galore!


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I have been wondering, just how are the DA:I sales?

 

 

This is VGChartz, so it doesn't take digital sales into account:

 

 

PS4: 1.39 m

XOne: 640k

PC: 450k

PS3: 410k

360: 370k

 

DAI's saving grace is having so many platforms, I think.

 

Compare this with, say, every COD game.. always 9 or 10 million

 

OR GTA V, which sold 20 million on the PS3 alone. 



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I would certainly not discount that possibility.

 

 

 

In a better game, Hawke would have been an interesting protagonist. As it is, he was just too much of a doofus in act 3 for me to like.

 

 

I don't think it cancelled just to please the haters, but because making an expansion was seen as too unviable after the negative reaction towards DA2.

 

 
I have been wondering, just how are the DA:I sales?

 

 

Hawke in act 3 was just :/ Actually the story in Act 3 (companion stuff aside) was a good example of how they rushed the end of the story to fit a ridicules deadline. I'd still rather have act 3 than Inquisition tbh.



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This is VGChartz, so it doesn't take digital sales into account:

 

 

PS4: 1.39 m

XOne: 640k

PC: 450k

PS3: 410k

360: 370k

 

DAI's saving grace is having so many platforms, I think.

 

Compare this with, say, every COD game.. always 9 or 10 million

 

OR GTA V, which sold 20 million on the PS3 alone. 

 

To be fair, GTA  has a much longer, and credible history than the DA franchise.



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To be fair, GTA  has a much longer, and credible history than the DA franchise.

 

It does... I'm just using it for reference.. that people still buy hard copies at those numbers.

 

So I don't think the digital sales excuse is going to cut it for DAI. It'll improve, but I doubt it'll improve drastically.

 

 

 

So far, DAO and DA2 still sold better. As did the Mass Effects. We'll see in time how it improves..



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VGChartz? Ask a random person how many copies DAI sold and this person will have more credibility than VGChartz.
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VGChartz? Ask a random person how many copies DAI sold and this person will have more credibility than VGChartz.

 

They rip a lot of info from NPD, from what I understand. Don't know about here though.

 

 

Lets just say that Bioware would be bragging more if it was that successful. They're happy bragging about vague things like "fastest selling" or number of awards.. but not sales. Rockstar wouldn't hesitate.



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It does... I'm just using it for reference.. that people still buy hard copies at those numbers.

 

So I don't think the digital sales excuse is going to cut it for DAI. It'll improve, but I doubt it'll improve drastically.

 

 

 

So far, DAO and DA2 still sold better. As did the Mass Effects. We'll see in time how it improves..

 Apparently it sold more than expected. 



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 Apparently it sold more than expected. 

 

I'd like it to be at least modestly successful. Who else makes AAA RPGs anymore? Few..

 

I doubt they're ever gonna say though.



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Oh great. Another thread bashing inquisition, while putting DA:2 on a pedestal. Both games have their pro's and con's.

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Oh great. Another thread bashing inquisition, while putting DA:2 on a pedestal. Both games have their pro's and con's.

 

I think everyone here would say that.

 

We just like the Pros of DA2 more. It's not bashing. It's simply liking something more. 

 

I know, it's a ballsy thing to do... making a decision. But it happens. ;)



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OK, for all the criticism of DAI, I like the companions more.

 

I don't closely connect with DA2's. 

 

hope that makes you feel better.



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I'd like it to be at least modestly successful. Who else makes AAA RPGs anymore? Few..

 

I doubt they're ever gonna say though.

 

 Depends on what you define as an RPG tbh. Also,  the success of Divinity Original Sin, proves that there is still a viable market for RPGs, and with upcoming pillars of Eternity, I believe RPG's will  come full circle once again.. Sort of like how fighting games were 'dead' for almost a decade and then a massive turnaround.

Oh great. Another thread bashing inquisition, while putting DA:2 on a pedestal. Both games have their pro's and con's.

 

 Oh everyone is WELL AWARE of DA2's CONS, (people have been harping on about them for 4 years,after all). What has happened imo,  is that inquisition is very empty on story compared to DA2. 

 

And, that's what most fans play the games for: story.

 

That's also what BIoware's brand is reputed for STORY. And do u know, what happens to most companies, when they lose their their reputed brand-image? They go under- fast.

 

ITs why Coca-Cola  company was like lightning, to amend the disaster of 'new-coke'.


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I don't think the vast majority of the bulk of people who buy DA games, the casual gamer, gives two shits about either of you two's problems with either game, to be honest. They just care about how it was advertised, buy it, start it, and never finish it. Shame really. And DA:I has been much more than "moderately successful." I honestly don't even know what's going on here. DA:I has outsold both previous Dragon Age games in the same time frame last I heard. 



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I don't think the vast majority of the bulk of people who buy DA games, the casual gamer, gives two shits about either of you two's problems with either game. They just care about how it was advertised, buy it, start it, and never finish it. And DA:I has been much more than "moderately successful." I honestly don't even know what's going on here. DA:I has outsold both previous Dragon AGe games in the same time frame last I heard. 

 

Give me numbers then. I'd happily correct myself. Don't simply tell me off, like that means anything. 



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Give you numbers? A BioWare employee posted on BSN about it here: http://forum.bioware...3#entry18059466

 

And here: http://www.pcgamer.c...ioware-history/

 

Dragon Age: Inquisition sold more in a week than DA2 did all of 2011, and that's only including physical copies, the digital copies likely making the number much, much higher. 



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Give you numbers? A BioWare employee posted on BSN about it here: http://forum.bioware...3#entry18059466

 

And here: http://www.pcgamer.c...ioware-history/

 

Dragon Age Inquisition sold more in a week than DA2 did all of 2011, and that's only including physical copies, the digital copies likely making the number much higher. 

 

And yet it didn't even show up in NPD that month (November) for top sales. And it still hasn't shown up in subsequent months. 

 

They use vague terms like "successful launch" and "fastest selling", but what does that even mean? It's vague.

 

I asked for numbers.. but you give me press speak. Which is fine.. if you didn't come here with such assurance. Strongly acting like you're right doesn't mean ****. 


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Hawke in act 3 was just :/ Actually the story in Act 3 (companion stuff aside) was a good example of how they rushed the end of the story to fit a ridicules deadline.

 

Yes, that is true. But I did like the ending, I liked the everybody-loses-approach. Few games dare go there, dare take authority from the player like that. I enjoyed that BW did, that they dared show us that a single person cannot usually change the world. I know many people disliked the ending but I really appreciate it.

 

VGChartz? Ask a random person how many copies DAI sold and this person will have more credibility than VGChartz.

 

I have no idea if there is any substance to this statement, but it made me laugh. Have a like.



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I have no idea if there is any substance to this statement, but it made me laugh. Have a like.

 

It can have some substance in the early months. The more time goes by, the more they update data with either press release or industry reports. From what I understand, it's still more accurate than sampling random people though. They sample stores at least.



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And yet it didn't even show up in NPD that month (November) for top sales. And it still hasn't shown up in subsequent months. 

Because November was full of AAA games?

They use vague terms like "successful launch" and "fastest selling", but what does that even mean? It's vague.

 

I asked for numbers.. but you give me press speak. Which is fine.. if you didn't come here with such assurance. Strongly acting like you're right doesn't mean ****. 

 

Nope, my opinion doesn't mean anything. BioWare's means a hell of a lot more than yours. EA has literally no reason to lie to people who already own the game about sales figures that mean absolutely nothing to them anyway. So when a BioWare employee says the game is selling, and well. And when it's reported to be more successful than any other BioWare game at launch, I believe them. And they have more credibility than your opinion on anything about their product,so yeah, I'm assured. It has nothing to do with me acting like I'm right, and a lot more to do with BioWare flat out telling you you're wrong. For all intents and purposes, Dragon Age: Inquisition was and continues to be a financial success. Trying to act like DA:O, whose total sales are comparable to say the least, of DA:I's total sales as of now was somehow more successful is lulzworthy. 



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Because November was full of AAA games?

Nope, my opinion doesn't mean anything. BioWare's means a hell of a lot more than yours. EA has literally no reason to lie to people who already own the game about sales figures that mean absolutely nothing to them anyway. So when a BioWare employee says the game is selling, and well. And when it's reported to be more successful than any other BioWare game at launch, I believe them. And they have more credibility than your opinion on anything about their product,so yeah, I'm assured. It has nothing to do with me acting like I'm right, and a lot more to do with BioWare flat out telling you you're wrong. For all intents and purposes, Dragon Age: Inquisition was and continues to be a financial success. Trying to act like DA:O, whose total sales are comparable to say the least, of DA:I's total sales as of now was somehow more successful is lulzworthy. 

 

I didn't say they were lying. I said they were vague. 

 

If it was selling as well as you believe, they'd brag about it in more concrete ways.

 

And it isn't about my credibility. I mentioned NPD reports. Not me. Whatever the definition of "fastest selling" is to Bioware, it must mean not mean anything relative to the best selling games.

 

I don't know what is so lulzworthy either. We're simply having a conversation about sales.



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Best part of DA2:

 

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That's the only Dragon Age's DLC I didn't play. But based off the forums, everyone loves Tallis.  :P  I did like her in Dragon Age:Redemption.

Funny I thought I was like almost the only one.  But yes I thougt she provided a very interesting perspective on the Qun and was quite the fascinating character.  

 

As far the end boss battle was concerned, it was fun, but I really loved what sarcastic Hawke could say to them at the end of it.  lol.