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[Hunter111]

 
I won't be buying any DAI DLC related content, because slogging through it with mr/mrs neutrality is not worth my money, or time.

I mostly agree. I put 150 hours into my first playthrough (completionist, for the trophies) and have no desire to pick up the game again. I'll buy DLC only if it substantially expands on the story of a character I care about, like Cassandra (like maybe an excursion to Nevarra). Otherwise, no. I don't really care about my inquisitor, or the characters Weekes wrote like Solas and Bull.

[Cespar]

I've enjoyed all of my inquisitors, and actually felt like I was able to influence their personality and view on life. I think it was a nice balance between the warden and Hawke, and hope Bioware sticks with this same plan of how they're approaching the protagonist. But, like always, Bioware tends to change things up a lot rather than being consistent.

[o Ventus]

 

 Oh everyone is WELL AWARE of DA2's CONS, (people have been harping on about them for 4 years,after all). What has happened imo,  is that inquisition is very empty on story compared to DA2. 

 

lolwat

 

DA2 doesn't even have a central narrative other than "Hawke becomes famous".

[Cespar]

lolwat

DA2 doesn't even have a central narrative other than "Hawke becomes famous".

Rags to Riches is still a story, but more on a personal level than a huge epic world saving story.

[o Ventus]

Rags to Riches is still a story, but more on a personal level than a huge epic world saving story.

There's no villain and no central conflict, is my point. DAI at least has a central antagonist and a main conflict. DA2 is a collection of short stories told between the 3 acts, it doesn't have a main plot.

[o Ventus]

I just told you the main plot. Both bookends start with the question of Mage/Templars. 

 

Varric basically says it's more complicated than she thinks.. and that's the fun of the game. The details.

The mages and templars don't even factor in to the narrative until act 3. 

[o Ventus]

Like I said, details. lol.

 

It starts just with Cassandra questioning him. And being suspicious about the expedition and idol they found later in Act 1.

 

It isn't "details" when the details make up 80% of the main game.

[Cespar]

There's no villain and no central conflict, is my point. DAI at least has a central antagonist and a main conflict is a collection of short stories told between the 3 acts, it doesn't have a main plot.

No villain? Let's see... each act has its own conflict, and villain doesn't always have to come in a physical form. Men Vs Himself, men Vs men, men Vs society, and I think men Vs nature. The main plot is how Hawke' actions led up to the Templars/Mages war, but of course, you'll always find a reason to be difficult.

[o Ventus]

This is supposed be over 7 years. 

 

It's 40 or 50 hours. And that's supposed to be for our benefit. To have a lot to do. Do you want them to get to the point quickly? That would suck. Too many games as it is are 20 hrs or under.

They very easily could have made the plot about Hawke's rise to power while still having the central conflict be the mages and templars, and assuming they knew how to pace the plot, still have a game lasting at least 40 hours.

 

Why this is evading people, I don't understand.

[Siha]

Why this is evading people, I don't understand.

 

Is there anything you are content with? Like ever?

 

This is a matter of taste. Some people liked DA2, others didn't and I don't think either fraction will ever be able to convince the other. Some people just cannot cope with such a story, they need a "big bad" that is introduced at the beginning and defeated at the end. I don't think this will ever be a fruitful discussion.

[Cespar]

Is there anything you are content with? Like ever?

This is a matter of taste. Some people liked DA2, others didn't and I don't think either fraction will ever be able to convince the other. Some people just cannot cope with such a story, they need a "big bad" that is introduced at the beginning and defeated at the end. I don't think this will ever be a fruitful discussion.

Exactly!

Off-topic- Share your new avatar!!!!!!!!

[o Ventus]

The main plot is how Hawke' actions led up to the Templars/Mages war, but of course, you'll always find a reason to be difficult.

Except Hawke's actions DIDN'T lead to the war between the mages and templars. The conflict between them was already brewing by the time Hawke was a blip on anyone's radar. The red lyrium idol is what drove Meredith insane and Anders is the one who blew up the Chantry. Hawke may have indirectly contributed, but to say Hawke actually caused the conflict is a gross oversimplification.

 

Unless you're tracing the blame back to Hawke because Hawke found the idol and Hawke found the materials for Anders when there's NO WAY Hawke could have known what was going to happen in either scenario. Hawke had no way to know Meredith would end up with the idol like how Hawke couldn't have known Anders was going to blow up the Chantry.

[o Ventus]

Is there anything you are content with? Like ever?

 

Yes. Quite a lot of things, actually. I only take issue when I notice someone say something that is either idiotic nonsense or factually wrong and they pass it off as truth.

[Siha]

Off-topic- Share your new avatar!!!!!!!!

 

Nooo! I never share anything!! It's all mine!! Go away!!

 

Except Hawke's actions DIDN'T lead to the war between the mages and templars. 

 

Depends on how you see it. Would Anders really have blown up the Chantry if he had stayed all alone in Darktown and not gone through all of this with Hawke? Unlikely. Etc. Of course Hawke alone did not do it all, but s/he had a hand in it. A very big hand.