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I'm talking about people who stay religious. You are another story. Honestly, how many people out there believe in it by their own choice, rather then because their family and local church told them that they should believe?

 

I came to some of this by choice. Although I'd hardly consider myself religious. Nor was I raised that way. My mom is a buddhist, dad kind of... agnostic. 

 

You never know what circumstances in life could bring people to have some faith though. We all have our own path.



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Yeaaa, how about we don't bring this topic up again

 

I'm just chiming in. My 2c. I'm not debating. It's more of a verbal facepalm.



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I'm talking about people who stay religious. You are another story. Honestly, how many people out there believe in it by their own choice, rather then because their family and local church told them that they should believe?

DA is a fantasy series with tons of supernatural elements. Religion holds more objective merit there than in the real world by default. There are literally entities called "spirits of faith". Cassandra knows this and chooses to follow her beliefs in her own way. Nobody is forcing her to. If she were coerced into her beliefs by anybody, she wouldn't be nearly as tolerant and understanding with elven or atheistic views as she is.


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It's like Cassandra just witnessed the Inquisitor score a particular good kill, and it made her a little flustered.


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It's like Cassandra just witnessed the Inquisitor score a particular good kill, and it made her a little flustered.

that is not how I would describe that look.  


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that is not how I would describe that look.  

"You and I are gonna f**k later" is a perfect way to describe that look. Just look at those eyes.


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Really not.

On other news, I would kill to find some gifs of Cassandra's badass walk during the first cutscene at Haven.

You know, the one where your character and the advisors stand before the troops to officially present themselves as the new Inquisition.
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Does Cassandra have a tavern song dedicated to her? I know that Sera, Leliana, and Samson all do, and I'm fairly certain that "Empress of Fire" is in reference to Celene. I'm not sure if any other companions or advisors have songs about them.



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How can one choose to believe in something they don't even know it's real? Religion is not an choice made by people, it's an choice made for them.

 

We had that already, didn't we? I mean, look at the world, you know that people do. I cannot explain why but you see every day that people believe in religion without any proof. But then again, why wouldn't they? Because there is also no proof to the contrary. As long as you cannot disprove something you will always have people who choose to believe. And I myself know people who came to faith on their own, without a family to back them up. It's not so rare. 

 

I just think Adaar is a sign of bad taste in players themselves. It has nothing to do with Cassandra. She isn't real. But players are. And the fact that players want to fondle some hot video game chick with a video game horned gorilla speaks more about them than anything else.

 

I swear, sometimes I read your posts and think it could have been me who wrote that. And then you say something like that. Beauty is subjective, I think you can agree? I think the male Adaar can really look good. (Also it's not like every elf or dwarf or human was pretty to me, it's all subjective and I don't like half of the PCs I see here on the board.) And I don't even understand why you are so opposed to Adaar, he doesn't even follow the Qun but deliberately chose to distance himself from it. Shouldn't you even respect him? ;)


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What exactly is wrong with gorillas? They're big and strong, yeah, but also intelligent and rather gentle, especially compared to their very violent cousins, like the chimps and...us.

Adaar is big and strong. The qunari are not particularly hairy, so I don't see your objection there. (As a rather hirsute man myself, I am vaguely offended. Am I actually a woolly, groping barbarian?  :( )

Personally I like Adaar and Cassandra because I can see Adaar being fascinated by how this small woman manages to be the most terrifying force on the battlefield, and Cassandra wrestles with feelings of doubt because the Chantry and the South do not look kindly upon qunari, even those who have never really encountered the Qun.

.I think they look as good as the females do. Not Arishok levels of 'Hot dayum awesome art design', but what is? I've seen some Adaar's that are some magnificent looking men with the horns of a particularly mighty mountain goat. :D 

Is it only Adaarmancers that have something wrong with them? Are players who romance Cassandra with Cadash secretly small, ugly, bearded men that want to live out their fantasies? Are women who play as petite and blonde Lavellans giving in to the societal pressure to look a certain way? Are we also to hold them in contempt?  :huh: Or perhaps people just have their own tastes on what is cool?

I am confused by all of this.  :mellow:

As for the religious question:

Cassandra was the right hand of the Divine. You don't get that high up by collecting bottle-caps. She struggles with her faith, but she very much knows what she is trying to believe, and chose the Chantry path independently of the Pentaghast family, who I assume would have preferred to have gotten a sweet marriage alliance with her instead of her incredible skill going toward the Chanty's benefit.

I am an atheist. I was raised by ??? parents from a largely Lutheran family. They refused to have any religious influence on me so that I could make my own choice. In the end, it turned out that they were agnostics that leaned slightly on the Christian tradition. *shrug* I chose being an atheist because it was the path that was right for me.

I know a Catholic who, in the span of a half-hour, claimed that: Catholics aren't Christian, Catholics worship the Virgin Mary and not Jesus, and that Marc Antony the singer is superior to Marc Antony the Roman. All of these are insane claims. He was 'Catholic' because his family was Catholic, but he never made a choice. He didn't believe, he didn't understand.

I have a Christian friend who laughed his ass off at that anecdote, and was raised by religious family members, and has chosen to be Christian and has sincere and well-thought out beliefs in that respect.

Now, I believe if he had been raised by Buddhists in a Buddhist country, for instance, he'd probably be Buddhist. So family influence and access to a religion plays a part. But if he'd been the first to hang out with the local Christian missionary in that alternate universe, it wouldn't surprise me. Some religions are better tailored for a person than others. Absence is the fitted suit for me.

 

Tl;dr for Avejaved: Adaar is not a gorilla and there's nothing wrong with players who ship Adaar and Cassandra. And everyone who has religion as an important part of their lives rather than cultural garnish has made that choice for themselves at some point, regardless of family influence.



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Really not.

On other news, I would kill to find some gifs of Cassandra's badass walk during the first cutscene at Haven.

You know, the one where your character and the advisors stand before the troops to officially present themselves as the new Inquisition.


Happy to serve.

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Personally I like Adaar and Cassandra because I can see Adaar being fascinated by how this small woman manages to be the most terrifying force on the battlefield, and Cassandra wrestles with feelings of doubt because the Chantry and the South do not look kindly upon qunari, even those who have never really encountered the Qun.

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Is it only Adaarmancers that have something wrong with them? Are players who romance Cassandra with Cadash secretly small, ugly, bearded men that want to live out their fantasies? Are women who play as petite and blonde Lavellans giving in to the societal pressure to look a certain way? Are we also to hold them in contempt?  :huh: Or perhaps people just have their own tastes on what is cool?

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Cassandra was the right hand of the Divine. You don't get that high up by collecting bottle-caps. She struggles with her faith, but she very much knows what she is trying to believe, and chose the Chantry path independently of the Pentaghast family, who I assume would have preferred to have gotten a sweet marriage alliance with her instead of her incredible skill going toward the Chanty's benefit.

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Tl;dr for Avejaved: ...

 

Damn, I don't know if this thread can handle the walls of text you always drop. ;)

 

I might be wrong but I assume StreetMagic's distaste for the Qun influences his perception of Adaar. At least I don't think he's just a racist who believes in human superiority.

 

I am not so familiar with the Pentaghast approach to the Chantry. Don't you think her being the Right Hand of the Divine would be honorable even in their eyes? Serious question.

 

And "Avejaved"? Wrong thread? ;)



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Damn, I don't know if this thread can handle the walls of text you always drop. ;)

 

I might be wrong but I assume StreetMagic's distaste for the Qun influences his perception of Adaar. At least I don't think he's just a racist who believes in human superiority.

 

I am not so familiar with the Pentaghast approach to the Chantry. Don't you think her being the Right Hand of the Divine would be honorable even in their eyes? Serious question.

 

And "Avejaved"? Wrong thread? ;)

I always put the tl:dr in as a joke for Avejaved on the Solas thread, and it makes me laugh to do it in threads with zero context.  :lol:

...it wasn't a wall of text when I first started dropping it, I swear. It grew in the fall.  :mellow:

But..but Adaar isn't Qunari. His parents left it. He's never had anything to do with it.

Just going off the usual noble parallels, I'd assume that Cassandra becoming right hand of the Divine would be very prestigious and something they'd bring up at parties all the time. And while nobles would see Chantry service as a noble duty for 'extra' sons and daughters with messy inheritances, I think there's some mention of the Pentaghasts disapproving of her taking up a warrior profession? At first, I think?  :huh:

But yeah, by now she's probably one of the most toted members of the family.  :lol:



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But..but Adaar isn't Qunari. His parents left it. He's never had anything to do with it.

Just going off the usual noble parallels, I'd assume that Cassandra becoming right hand of the Divine would be very prestigious and something they'd bring up at parties all the time. And while nobles would see Chantry service as a noble duty for 'extra' sons and daughters with messy inheritances, I think there's some mention of the Pentaghasts disapproving of her taking up a warrior profession? At first, I think?  :huh:

 

I said "I assume", I can't speak for StreetMagic though. I simply want to think good of him. ;) And I did not know about Adaars back story because I've never played him. I expected him to be Tal-Vashoth because how else would he even be there, but that's about it.

It is possible that she mentioned her family's views on her chosen path, I don't actually remember. It's been a while that I played DAI. That's why I asked you. Maybe the Pentaghasts are a bit like Sten, thinking a women doesn't belong with a sword in her hand.



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Hey Ventus, I saw this and thought of you:
 
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Are you going to try Final Fantasy Type-O? I really want to play it. Just came out one day ago.

Yea i've heard , i have seen some footage on youtube i think ill pass on it though, im just going to wait for 15 to come out :D


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I'm not racist. That's ****** stupid. Stupid. I happen to be mixed race myself and experienced actual racism. I'm not gonna dignify video games having the same gravity. Nor does it have anything to do with religion.

 

 

The only spectrum I'm judging on is how dorky and unattractive something is. A matter of simple taste and class. And this lowers the bar significantly. I don't understand anyone who gets off on romantic or sexual imagery like this.

 

 

Not quite as bad as those rule34 pics of Krogans having gangbang sessions with Miranda though. /facepalm Or when they unleash those dog like things on Jack. /facepalm

 

 

But pretty lame nonetheless. 


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I'm not racist. That's ****** stupid. Stupid. I happen to mixed race myself and experienced actual racism. I'm not gonna dignify video games having the same gravity.

 

 

The only spectrum I'm judging on is how dorky and unattractive something is. And this lowers the bar significantly. It's embarrassing to even be around. 

 

 

Not quite as bad as those rule34 pics of Krogans having gangbang sessions with Miranda though. /facepalm Or when they unleash those dog like things on Jack. /facepalm

 

 

But pretty lame nonetheless. 

I'm afraid I don't quite see why people romancing Cassandra with an Inquisitor that happens to be qunari is 'not quite as bad' as bestiality porn. Or why it degrades anyone, anywhere. Why would it be embarrassing? I imagine for many people the thought process is, "I think qunari look cool. I want to have a cool character. Cassandra is cool. I should romance Cassandra with this character (for the fifth time)." 


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I'm afraid I don't quite see why people romancing Cassandra with an Inquisitor that happens to be qunari is 'not quite as bad' as bestiality porn. Or why it degrades anyone, anywhere. Why would it be embarrassing? I imagine for many people the thought process is, "I think qunari look cool. I want to have a cool character. Cassandra is cool. I should romance Cassandra with this character (for the fifth time)." 

 

All dorks and geeks are embarrassing. It's just a matter of how much.

 

I happen to be one myself, but this is going full retard. Enjoy being in your own world, without any reference to anything resembling normalcy. And if you're questioning what normalcy even is, well...... that's kind of my point.



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All dorks and geeks are embarrassing. It's just a matter of how much.

 

I happen to be one myself, but this is going full retard. Enjoy being in your own world, without any reference to anything resembling normalcy. And if you're questioning what normalcy even is, well...... that's kind of my point.

That hasn't been my experience. :)

I think this is the first instance on the BSN where I have sincerely no idea where someone is coming from.  :lol:



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That hasn't been my experience. :)

I think this is the first instance on the BSN where I have sincerely no idea where someone is coming from.  :lol:

 

I'm not surprised. BSN is already weird.

 

You'd have to step out to see what I mean. If you look at other game forums, most of them make fun of this place. Mostly because of the romances. I'm in the same boat as you in this respect. You just happen to be more fringe. 



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I'm not surprised. BSN is already weird.

 

You'd have to step out to see what I mean. If you look at other game forums, most of them make fun of this place. Mostly because of the romances. I'm in the same boat as you in this respect. You just happen to be more fringe. 

I have been to many other forums. I'm no sheltered lamb when it comes to forum madness. :lol: I've stepped out the front door, down the road, and into the neighboring states.  And there are some members of BSN who have cause to be embarrassed. But it's not because of how nerdy or geeky they are, or that they storm the Casstle with a qunari.



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Yea i've heard , i have seen some footage on youtube i think ill pass on it though, im just going to wait for 15 to come out :D

Ugh, don't even get me started on 15. They're actually driving around the world map! Where are my chocobo!!!? But, I may actually give it a shot….  :unsure:

 

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It's like Cassandra just witnessed the Inquisitor score a particular good kill, and it made her a little flustered.

Omg! Those eyes!  :wub:  Her best feature, imo.



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I said "I assume", I can't speak for StreetMagic though. I simply want to think good of him. ;) And I did not know about Adaars back story because I've never played him. I expected him to be Tal-Vashoth because how else would he even be there, but that's about it.

It is possible that she mentioned her family's views on her chosen path, I don't actually remember. It's been a while that I played DAI. That's why I asked you. Maybe the Pentaghasts are a bit like Sten, thinking a women doesn't belong with a sword in her hand.

 

I appreciate the thought, but you'd probably be better off distancing yourself from me on this subject. I'll just drag ya down ;)

 

Fair warning. I don't think I have a popular opinion here. Soon enough, you'll be seen as racist, not inclusive.. or how you're rude to _insert random complex here_. 


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