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Cass breaking up with the Inquistor if she's divine is just another reason I always make Leliana Divine.


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@Merela: And the irony. It's not actually smutty at all, its just sappy and romantic. ^_^


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As mentioned above, it's deliberately left ambiguous. There's a few points to consider here:

1) It's not clear that, as a lay Divine, Cass actually has to be celibate, personally. Since she's not a mother of the chantry, she hasn't taken that vow. Maybe the Divine has an extra vow of her own. But maybe there's just the unspoken assumption that a lay divine, like an ordained divine, would be celibate.

2) It is pretty obvious that being in bed with the inquisition could cause political problems for Cassandra/Victoria as she tries to reform things. Sure, the inquisition is popular with the people of Thedas, but it has a lot of enemies within the chantry. Also, Cassandra's relationship with the Inquisitor could be used to de-legitimize either of them -- was he just a puppet that she established? Was she being manipulated by him? These are Orlesians we're talking about. The simple truth that two of the most powerful people in Thedas love each other would strike them as silly.

So, bearing those things in mind:

-Cass is extremely dedicated to doing what it takes to reform the Chantry.

-Cass mostly seems to have ordered her life about doing the right thing rather than the thing that makes her happy. I am not sure this changes even as she gets more friends, finds love and hangs around losing to Varric at cards.

-Cass is -also- a passionate, hopeless romantic who has twice gotten involved in romances that would have been at least mildly scandalous. She brings up the implications early on in her romantic arc, but it's clear that she gives zero fucks and has no regrets once things get going. And she never expresses regret about getting together with Regalyan. It's obvious that the added political dimensions of being Divine weigh on her, though.

So we have a lot of factors pulling in a lot of different directions. And that is why I could see this going either way. Strict duty to her mission of reform would demand she break things off with the Inquisitor; and she believes that reform is divinely ordained, albeit with qualifications about not actually knowing the Maker's will etc etc. On the other hand, I feel like Cassandra was happy in Skyhold/on the road in a way that she might have never been in her life (and not just because of the inquisitor). And maybe having been happy, she will be less likely to give herself to her duties without reservation.

Edit: as a final note, I can't picture Cass settling down with the Inq regardless. She has too much stuff to do, so I'd imagine any continued relationship (even if she was not divine) would consist of occasional visits when her busy life allows it rather than say, moving in together. I feel like the most happily ever after romance is Cullen.

 

I'm not sure about the last part; she can have lots of things to do with the Inquisition as well, if she decides not to rebuild the Seekers. In my head cannon, (I've said this on these forums before lol) I imagine my Inquisitor leaving the Inquisition, giving all of its funds to the people (and the families of)  those who worked for the Inquisition, forsaking exalted 'Divine Cassandra' and becoming like a MGS Big Boss character. XD



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If you lack the attention span to read a paragraph, go learn New Speak, it's a language that would suit someone like you. I've already said why Cassandra accepts the offer (I'm guessing your ADD kicked in), I won't repeat it, but the chantry is still very culpable. By the way, I did not say that the Chantry was the only party deserving of the Inquisitor's ire--I said "especially deserving."

I'm not the one who answered a question about a video game with a thinly veiled rant about my perceived issues with society buddy.

 

I'd suggest losing the tin foil and pompousness.



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@Merela: And the irony. It's not actually smutty at all, its just sappy and romantic. ^_^

 

She calls it smutty, in the same way a Christian would call an R rated flick smutty :P

 

Or hell, just how many would view real romance novels (not the actual porn.. just the typical racy ones).



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I'm not the one who answered a question about a video game with a thinly veiled rant about my perceived issues with society buddy.

 

I'd suggest losing the tin foil and pompousness.

I have the tin foil? I'm not the one confusing what someone has written about a fictitious society, with what they think about actually society. Also, I never start my writing with TLDR, because I would find it both shameful and embarrassing to do so. I have enough respect for people, to take what they have written me seriously, meaning that at the very least I will read what they have presented me with, and judge it to be a good or bad argument, idea etc. Pomposity has got nothing to do with it; I'm sure your fatuous acronyms just make you the pride of the internet.


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She calls it smutty, in the same way a Christian would call an R rated flick smutty :P

 

Or hell, just how many would view real romance novels (not the actual porn.. just the typical racy ones).

 

This. Smutty does not equal pornographic.



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Cass breaking up with the Inquistor if she's divine is just another reason I always make Leliana Divine.

Except she didn't unless the devs confirm she did, which hasn't happened. The romance card is still in tact. Another reason for making that bimbo Leliana divine that doesn't hold up. ;)



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Get the heretical pairing out of here! Everyone knows Inquisitor is the only one for Cass.

In your playthrough >_>

Well, it appears to me you have a thread for Cassaric or Pentathras or whatever this OOC pairing is called.

yeah, but this is the cass thread..and if u crop out Varric anditottalydontdoittorusstlethrguysjimmies..

I ain't even mad, you can try & troll me with that disgusting ship all you like AWTEW it ain't gonna work. :lol:

Just look at it this way

The Cass/Varic Ship= Crackship

This picture= Reality
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(Nothing against people who ship it BTW ;) )

pfft, this is reality in my non trev playthroughs...

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Crackship. I think I'll use that.

 

 

The only positive thing I'll say is that Varric is cool.

 

He's just not the right kind of cool. He makes zero effort. When Cassandra is a woman who deserves the effort. That's what I don't like about it. 


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The only positive thing I'll say is that Varric is cool.

 

He's just not the right kind of cool. He makes zero effort. When Cassandra is a woman who deserves the effort. That's what I don't like about it. 

 

This. When Cassandra says "I want a man who sweeps me off my feet", literally the last person I think of is Varric. Even disregarding their mutual distaste for one another (mutual dislike should already kill the potential romance angle, in addition to Varric's lingering interest in Bianca), Varric fills precisely 0 criteria for someone that Cassandra might be in to. Hell, even Bull would be a better choice before Varric. He and Cassandra actually respect each other and they compliment each other often.



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This. When Cassandra says "I want a man who sweeps me off my feet", literally the last person I think of is Varric. Even disregarding their mutual distaste for one another (mutual dislike should already kill the potential romance angle, in addition to Varric's lingering interest in Bianca), Varric fills precisely 0 criteria for someone that Cassandra might be in to. Hell, even Bull would be a better choice before Varric. He and Cassandra actually respect each other and they compliment each other often.

 

Sad, but true. But even then, it's like a 2% improvement. Bull still has no class. He respects her as a warrior, not much as a woman. Everything out of his mouth is objectifying her body. It can work comedically, but it's hard to for me.


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Bull still has no class

 

Inq: Hey Bull, I want to do something romantic for Cassandra to spice up the sex, and you seem the most... Experienced, so I figured I'd ask you.

 

Bull: Sure thing boss. Cass is the sweet and cuddly type, right? Hands down, when you're with her, just slip your thumb in her ***. The tavern girls seem to like it.

 

Inq: *scratches head* I... You... Yeah, thanks Bull.

 

Bull: Anytime, boss.



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Except she didn't unless the devs confirm she did, which hasn't happened. The romance card is still in tact. Another reason for making that bimbo Leliana divine that doesn't hold up. ;)

Well the interview kind of made it seem like Cass breaking up was the more likely option.



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Crackship. I think I'll use that.
 
 
The only positive thing I'll say is that Varric is cool.
 
He's just not the right kind of cool. He makes zero effort. When Cassandra is a woman who deserves the effort. That's what I don't like about it.

Eh, I like it. Although, I prefer Varric with Femhawke and I suppose that has more basis. since it was almost in the DA2..
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Inq: Hey Bull, I want to do something romantic for Cassandra to spice up the sex, and you seem the most... Experienced, so I figured I'd ask you.

 

Bull: Sure thing boss. Cass is the sweet and cuddly type, right? Hands down, when you're with her, just slip your thumb in her ***. The tavern girls seem to like it.

 

Inq: *scratches head* I... You... Yeah, thanks Bull.

 

Bull: Anytime, boss.

 

Sadly, that kind of scene could fit for him. He reminds me of dudes who talk like that. 

 

His only redeeming factor to me is that I think it's an act.... 



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Eh, I like it. Although, I prefer Varric with Femhawke and I suppose that has more basis. since it was almost in the DA2..

 

That works a helluva lot more... 

 

Having a basis is my only point really.



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Inq: Hey Bull, I want to do something romantic for Cassandra to spice up the sex, and you seem the most... Experienced, so I figured I'd ask you.

 

Bull: Sure thing boss. Cass is the sweet and cuddly type, right? Hands down, when you're with her, just slip your thumb in her ***. The tavern girls seem to like it.

 

Inq: *scratches head* I... You... Yeah, thanks Bull.

 

Bull: Anytime, boss.

 

:lol: oh Bull



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Eh, I would've paid extra for a more serious Qunari companion. I heard they originally planned a female character...

 

I stopped recruiting him, but it kind of pisses me off since I only have "11 disciples" for my table. Not 12. :P He's a joke character and lowers the whole bar as far as I'm concerned. People complain about Sera not fitting, but he's the bigger problem imo. He's just a merc (like the equally stupid Qunari inquisitor), and has no clear ideals. At least Sera believes in something. And at least a player Qunari can be shaped that way.

 

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Sounds hella biased towards Bull and qunari, tbh. He's also no a merc. 



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Sounds hella biased towards Bull and qunari, tbh. He's also no a merc. 

 

That's what he brings to the table at first, as a recruit. There's not much narrative or intro on why you should/would want him. He knows this, and then just flat out says he's a spy.

 

Which just makes it worse for me. But he's in identity crisis mode on that too. He doesn't bring much to the table in that respect either. He lingers on as just a joke character, not tied to any relevant events or politics.

 

 

As for being biased, so what. I can be won over though. 



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Inq: Well, I tried surprising her with my thumb like you said, Bull.

 

Bull: *laughs* Really? How'd it go?

 

Inq: I'm not really sure. At first I thought she was cool with it, then she made her disgusted noise. I felt a little weirded out, so I pulled my thumb out before much else could happen. 

 

Bull: I should have been more clear. You can't just go around shoving your fingers into people's a**holes, boss. That's a huge turn-off. You gotta lull them into it first. Doesn't Cass say she likes sappy poetry? Prepare her a hot bath and sprinkle the water with those silly rose petals she likes, and read her poetry by candle light while she relaxes in the water. After you're done, maybe make her a nice dinner and give her a good sensual back rub to show her that you care. Then, when you two are in the thick of it, smoothly slide it up in there. She'll be so smitten by everything you've done for her earlier that she'll completely forget to react. Trust me, it works on the tavern girls every time. Then again, I'm usually pretty drunk when I'm with the tavern girls. The tavern girls are usually pretty out of it too. Besides, that mark on your hand has to be good for something besides closing rifts, amirite?

 

The moral of the story: it may not be a good idea to just shove your thumb up someone's ass, holy figure or not.



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To be fair, a lot of recruitments don't have the same narrative punch as previous games. It just stands out the most to me for Bull, since 1) I need to be sold on Qunari more and 2) he just remains as a more down to earth warrior type, without much else to add. That's a good enough reason to have him around.. but I'm not sure what qualifies him as full blown agent of the Inquisition. From being a guy who sends Krem to your doorstep to that. 

 

I think my standard is ME2. They all had lengthy recruitment stories and a role in the main Mass Effect themes (except maybe Kasumi and Thane...not sure what their "theme" was...but even then, their missions were great). DAI is a bit more fast paced.



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That works a helluva lot more... 
 
Having a basis is my only point really.


Well, I guess so. I'll still keep shipping tethraghast, and still occasionaly tease u guys wi it. :P