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[Master Warder Z_]

That's the appeal.

She's unbroken, unbowed.

By the seven flames of Agni breaking her would be the task of months if not years.

Part of me even hopes she wouldn't.

[TEWR]

Well, some women relish in it, having it done to them. If they enjoy it -- and truly enjoy it I mean -- then there's no problem. That's the consensual part.

 

Sex is primal and raw and filled with emotion and passion. Moreover there are many reasons why a person would go for it, whether simply because they like it or because it helps them cope with past trauma.

 

That said one has to be careful on how they do it. You can't just go hogwild and hit the person wherever you want, how many times you want, how hard you want. That's dangerous.

[Master Warder Z_]

Mmm I never really thought it to be violence honestly.

Hmm; yes it's always been the establishment of the order I demand in a relationship, in return for my body, mind and heart I demand the same.

I make no qualms about not enjoying the prospect I admit...having the life go out of their eyes, cognitive thought replaced by sheer carnality.

It's almost funny, if you cut the right places, touch the right places...most become butter inside a hour.

It gets boring then but it lets you refine technique.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Well, some women relish in it, having it done to them. If they enjoy it -- and truly enjoy it I mean -- then there's no problem. That's the consensual part.

 

Sex is primal and raw and filled with emotion and passion. Moreover there are many reasons why a person would go for it, whether simply because they like it or because it helps them cope with past trauma.

 

That said one has to be careful on how they do it. You can't just go hogwild and hit the person wherever you want, how many times you want, how hard you want. That's dangerous.

 

I don't see anything wrong with it myself. People like what they like, yeah? And as you said, if it's consensual then whats the problem.

 

A lot of well thought out planning and precision goes into this sort of sexual relationship and a lot of care is taken. There is a huge amount of trust instilled in each other between the people involved, maybe even more trust then what you would see between two people that are in your everyday vanilla sexual relationship. 

[Master Warder Z_]

I usually end up leaving marks but well I am but a man and lust even overcomes me eventually, I learned early on you need to remove the blade from play then, choking or striking is safer but tame, certain low key bases offer enjoyment as well if your into chemical play.

But me...it's always gone back to the blade, leaving my little marks, carving them and them begging me to keep doing it even as the sheets stain red...

Erm I need to stop here...I'm living alone at present and this is reminding me of...more innocent times.

[TEWR]

Moreover, aftercare is an important part of the lifestyle. It's not just "Do the do" and then go and make yourself a sandwich. It's making sure that the other side enjoyed it, that they're okay, if there was anything they'd like you to do/not do in the future or do more of.

 

Basically you gotta ensure that everyone enjoyed it, and just spend time with them showing that while yes, you had fun, you want to make sure your partner knows you care about them always.

[TEWR]

And here I thought people's taste in fantasy races was a problem.

 

 

Now you're all celebrating carving people with knives and ****.

 

 

I'm more lost here than I thought.

 

Well, I'm more on the submissive side of things, but I know a lot about the dominant aspect as well from discussions on the matter with people who identify as such.

 

People like what they like. As long as it is consensual, it's fine (within certain boundaries. There are some disturbing fetishes out there that no matter how consensual I can't get behind because they're inherently unsafe from a health perspective). It's not going to be for everyone though, and that's fine! In the end, BDSM wouldn't be for you, it seems.

 

But BDSM isn't just about the physicality of it. I think what Z primarily enjoys is the mental aspect of it (but I'm not Z so I can't speak for him). The physicality is part of it, but the mental aspect is also great. Manipulating, controlling, digging deep into the darkest corners of our minds....

[Master Warder Z_]

Pfft.

Their bodies enjoy it at the very least, primal submission. They bare their throats. and who do you think stitches them back together after the fun?

I sit with them in blood, closing the holes I made, preventing issue.

I might not love every woman to grace my bed but I'd honestly be insulted if it was implied I didn't care.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Pfft.

Their bodies enjoy it at the very least, primal submission. They bare their throats. and who do you think stitches them back together after the fun?

I sit with them in blood, closing the holes I made, preventing issue.

I might not love every woman to grace my bed but I'd honestly be insulted if it was implied I didn't care.

 

You know what, Warder? That is actually kind of sweet. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Simple bodily reactions are the most telling.

Note most do this naked so...it's pretty easy to tell what works.

Just saying.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

 

 

 

How do you even measure enjoyment and fun with pain? Honest question. What made this a good thing?

 

When I skateboarded, for example, all of the enjoyment revolved around speed and skill. Not when I fell and busted my face. Pain is something to be avoided. And the less pain I felt was a sign I was doing something right. Not something wrong. 

 

And the same goes for sex.

 

 

As for Cassandra, one of her trailers says she treats the violence as a means to an end. She doesn't relish in it.

 

 

Because it is what some people like? I don't really think there needs to be an explanation for it other than that. It is like asking someone why they like a certain flavour of ice-cream. We all have different tastes and different needs and as long as they aren't harming anyone then what's the problem? 

 

It's natural for people to not understand but I am sure you get the basic concept of people like what they like, yeah? You like what you like, they like what they like.

 

And hey, I always thought you and I got along just fine, *pout*   

[TEWR]

Pain and pleasure are linked together in some people. I myself find pain exhilarating, but more importantly I find control incredibly awesome. There's something about giving my life into the hands of a person I trust that makes it all the better to me.

 

Pain is inevitable in life. You can run a marathon and be in pain, but enjoy it nonetheless. Pain makes us feel alive. It reminds us of who we are.

[Master Warder Z_]

So are you guys just roleplaying comic book characters right now.... or do you actually do this?

I can't tell anymore.

God I wish.

Heh even the manga pales to the real thing.

o.o seriously though, Cassandra would be a excellent submissive because she wouldn't submit.

[TEWR]

As for Cassandra, one of her trailers says she treats the violence as a means to an end. She doesn't relish in it.

 

 

Being dominant in a BDSM relationship doesn't solely involve painful acts. Such things can be part of a BDSM relationship, but not all BDSM relationships involve it.

 

But I think she'd still enjoy it nonetheless, because it would allow her to vent her frustrations with someone she trusts in a very healthy capacity. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Pain and pleasure are linked together in some people. I myself find pain exhilarating, but more importantly I find control incredibly awesome. There's something about giving my life into the hands of a person I trust that makes it all the better to me.

Pain is inevitable in life. You can run a marathon and be in pain, but enjoy it nonetheless. Pain makes us feel alive. It reminds us of who we are.

...I am tempted to ask now but actually sort of feel awkward doing so now.

Erm did you get excited by the Pain speech in Naruto too?

I want you to think about pain, embrace pain, know pain.

*shudders slightly*

[TEWR]

Hah, I don't watch Naruto. I could never really stand its painful dialogue.

 

Pun intended.

[TEWR]

That I can understand. And I would allow it... or rather, my Inquisitor would.

 

 

It's the pain thing I'm confused about. And honestly, makes me angry. It's so alien to me. 

 

Well, what would you say if your partner dug their nails into your skin as you were having sex with them? Or nibbled your ear? Or other such things? There are differing levels of pain, and people respond differently to them.

[Master Warder Z_]

Hah, I don't watch Naruto. I could never really stand its painful dialogue.

Pun intended.

Bahahaha.

God yes though, ninety percent of the diologue was absolute garbage.

But there are a few gems in there.