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[Rainbow Wyvern]

Yeah, hoping she isn't too much of a Chantry-lover. I don't think my super-pro-mage (hopefully blood mage) character will like her all that much if she IS a Chantry fangirl...

Dead Cassie is dead in that case.

[LobselVith8]

It's somewhat interesting, as both Alistair and Varric were quite ideologically neutral; Cassandra seems to have a much firmer ideological stance, so if she's a secondary protagonist like I suspect, something must have happened to give her a great deal of tolerance.

That came across to me as well. Her status as a Seeker is quite a contrast, since it's not a neutral position or group she belongs to, and players have rather strong opinions about the main organization and the militant branch. That's why I keep wondering how the developers will approach her, since I think it's likely she will be mandatory.

I suppose the veil tears could explain why the other obvious issues of conflict may be temporarily overlooked.

[Xilizhra]

That came across to me as well. Her status as a Seeker is quite a contrast, since it's not a neutral position or group she belongs to, and players have rather strong opinions about the main organization and the militant branch. That's why I keep wondering how the developers will approach her, since I think it's likely she will be mandatory.

I suppose the veil tears could explain why the other obvious issues of conflict may be temporarily overlooked.

If I had to guess, she sees the renegade templars and Seekers as having betrayed their mandate, and the returned Inquisition is the closest thing to what she sees as a just organization left.

[LobselVith8]

If I had to guess, she sees the renegade templars and Seekers as having betrayed their mandate, and the returned Inquisition is the closest thing to what she sees as a just organization left.

If she's become neutral in the wake of the cataclysm (as opposed to an active member of the Chantry), I could see that resolving a few issues. I suppose that may also explain why Varric is traveling with her.

[Xilizhra]

If she's become neutral in the wake of the cataclysm (as opposed to an active member of the Chantry), I could see that resolving a few issues. I suppose that may also explain why Varric is traveling with her.

There may well no longer be a Chantry of any significance to be an active member of. And yes, that may well be an answer.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well, so far the Chantry does seem to be the neutral party in this. On one side, there are the Mages. On the other, there are the Templars and Seekers who broke away to wage war with the mages. In the middle there is the Chantry and the Templars and Seekers who stayed with it.

 

As Cassandra even says in DA2, "Not all of us desire war, Varric." 

[Xilizhra]

Well, so far the Chantry does seem to be the neutral party in this. On one side, there are the Mages. On the other, there are the Templars and Seekers who broke away to wage war with the mages. In the middle there is the Chantry and the Templars and Seekers who stayed with it.

 

As Cassandra even says in DA2, "Not all of us desire war, Varric." 

That's the Golden Mean fallacy unless the Chantry has given up on the goal of retaking control of the mages entirely and is willing to accept peace on almost any terms.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That's the Golden Mean fallacy unless the Chantry has given up on the goal of retaking control of the mages entirely and is willing to accept peace on almost any terms.

Compared to the alternatives of either complete mage freedom or complete mage extermination, the Chantry is in the middle ground.

[LobselVith8]

There may well no longer be a Chantry of any significance to be an active member of. And yes, that may well be an answer.

Possibly, if the survey is still accurate about the annihilation of Chantry leadership. The developers have gone out of their way to say that the protagonist isn't a "puppet of the church" and working "in opposition" to the Chantry, so Cassandra now being a neutral agent could explain why she's become part of an organization that's not tied to the Seekers or the Chantry.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Possibly, if the survey is still accurate about the annihilation of Chantry leadership. The developers have gone out of their way to say that the protagonist isn't a "puppet of the church" and working "in opposition" to the Chantry, so Cassandra now being a neutral agent could explain why she's become part of an organization that's not tied to the Seekers or the Chantry.

Can be, not are. Just felt that needed to be addressed.

[Xilizhra]

Compared to the alternatives of either complete mage freedom or complete mage extermination, the Chantry is in the middle ground.

It's a middle ground, but that doesn't make it the most fair position.

 

 

Possibly, if the survey is still accurate about the annihilation of Chantry leadership. The developers have gone out of their way to say that the protagonist isn't a "puppet of the church" and working "in opposition" to the Chantry, so Cassandra now being a neutral agent could explain why she's become part of an organization that's not tied to the Seekers or the Chantry.

Quite so.

[bairdduvessa]

Plot-point!

 

There is different choices here:

- special snowflake

- Cassandra knows that in The Game it's way better to have random person in charge than yourself.

- the previews are actually lying, the Inquisition is actually a triumvirate of Cassandra, Varric(or someone else) and the player (or a dual leadership of Cassandra/Player).

- Someone else (like the big bad) actually force the player on top in the hope that the Inquisition fail.

- I'm sure they are others.

 

Although, it should be noted that Cassandra was barking orders in the PAX demo (from telling the party what to do against the Behemoth, to telling Inquisition soldiers to close the cave passage).

 

special snowflake???  

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It's a middle ground, but that doesn't make it the most fair position.

True, but it does mean they are neutral since as it stands now they are not supporting one side over the other. 

[Star fury]

Cassandra seems like a non-trivial character. I'm also very interested in her voice actor, that could make or break a NPC. It's noteworthy that female NPCs in Bioware games are usually better written than cliche male NPCs. Jennifer Hale looks like a perfect match for Cassandra.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

special snowflake???  

Special Snowflake is another term for Writer's Pet, which is a character the writer has favoritism towards so they are given things like special abilities or most commonly given plot armor.

[LobselVith8]

That's the Golden Mean fallacy unless the Chantry has given up on the goal of retaking control of the mages entirely and is willing to accept peace on almost any terms.

That's quite true, and a mage run Inquisition runs in contradiction to Chantry law. The Chantry simply isn't neutral, and hasn't been for nearly a millennia.

With the loss of the templars and the cataclysm that might herald the veil tears, I suppose Cassandra could see the Inquisition filling the power vacuum left by the impotence of the Chantry and the other groups and organizations at this time. She'd have to forsake certain Chantry laws and mentalities in order to accept specific protagonists leading the Inquisition.

[Xilizhra]

True, but it does mean they are neutral since as it stands now they are not supporting one side over the other. 

They'll be neutral if they take no action to affect the outcome.

 

 

That's quite true, and a mage run Inquisition runs in contradiction to Chantry law. The Chantry simply isn't neutral, and hasn't been for nearly a millennia.

With the loss of the templars and the cataclysm that might herald the veil tears, I suppose Cassandra could see the Inquisition filling the power vacuum left by the impotence of the Chantry and the other groups and organizations at this time. She'd have to forsake certain Chantry laws and mentalities in order to accept specific protagonists leading the Inquisition.

Indeed, but she might have already been developing in that direction.

[Rainbow Wyvern]

Cassandra seems like a non-trivial character. I'm also very interested in her voice actor, that could make or break a NPC. It's noteworthy that female NPCs in Bioware games are usually better written than cliche male NPCs. Jennifer Hale looks like a perfect match for Cassandra.

*sigh* In your opinion. 

 

I actually found the males to be better written than the females. In my opinion.

 

 

Anyway, I do wonder if Cass is going to have super-thick plot armor. Not being able to send her away or kill her, while understandable, would be frustrating on certain playthroughs. 

[LobselVith8]

Indeed, but she might have already been developing in that direction.

If Cassandra has been traveling with Varric for quite some time, I can see his influence changing her outlook on certain issues. He certainly traveled and spent time with quite an eclectic group of people.

[Xilizhra]

If Cassandra has been traveling with Varric for quite some time, I can see his influence changing her outlook on certain issues. He certainly traveled and spent time with quite an eclectic group of people.

If something does push Cassandra too far, I predict it'll be at the end, akin to the Loghain decision, or perhaps the Anders one.

[bairdduvessa]

it sounds to me like Viv will be the pro circle in out party, and Solace will probably be the opposite (i'm basing these ideas out of my ass).   Sera will be the agent of chaos and Cassandra will be about order.

 

Meaning that if you are strong at are trying to build the nation you will play  into Cassandra's points.  She works for the Divine and no one else really.  She is there because she is ordered to be, and may end up either regretting it or changing due to the inquisitor's influence.  I think really she is more neutral than the others (minus maybe Varric), seeing as how she needs to restore the country for her religion, and nothing more than that.

 

to be fair i am very tired and i think rambling. 

[LobselVith8]

Anyway, I do wonder if Cass is going to have super-thick plot armor. Not being able to send her away or kill her, while understandable, would be frustrating on certain playthroughs.

It's an issue when a companion is in direct contradiction to your character, like a pro-templar Hawke accepting apostates. It's why I'd prefer it if none of the companions were mandatory.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Anyway, I do wonder if Cass is going to have super-thick plot armor. Not being able to send her away or kill her, while understandable, would be frustrating on certain playthroughs. 

Just leave her at camp.

[bairdduvessa]

so i know that i am kind of a newb on the forums despite my profile's "join" date, but i love that this thread shows that you can never discuss religion in polite company, even fictional ones

[LobselVith8]

If something does push Cassandra too far, I predict it'll be at the end, akin to the Loghain decision, or perhaps the Anders one.

I could see that happening. Since the Inquisitor is the one shaping the organization, the choices throughout the story may ultimately culminate in a direction that she can't accept, which also happened at the end of Dragon Age II with Meredith's ultimatum.