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[LightningPoodle]

A pet Inquisitor.

 

You all know what I'm talking about

 

 What a dirty mind you have. Love it! 

[o Ventus]

 What a dirty mind you have. Love it! 

I see an opportunity to make the joke, and I take it.

[Br3admax]

Targaryens are awesome.

Why do you keep telling such awful and disgusting lies?

[Boost32]

To me, he lowers everything around him. Not just the Chantry sisters. His romance scene makes Josie look stupid too (of course, only someone who likes Bull should see that). And makes Cass slightly cool with sexual harassment. First thing out of his mouth he's talking about her breasts. And she doesn't slap him? I'd start **** with any guy with that kind of tact. But noooo..... we can't have people being too serious about this. Everything's gotta be a joke.

But the Chantry sister are lay sister, they dont have vow of celibacy, so what's the problem?

[o Ventus]

But the Chantry sister are lay sister, they dont have vow of celibacy, so what's the problem?

Not all of them. Leliana used to be a Lay Sister, and to my knowledge, she's the only one that players ever interact with. The rest are standard, generic "Sisters".

[Br3admax]

Imagine if someone completely foreign to you or your culture that you have been taught is the enemy your entire life just appeared suddenly with giant horns growing out of their heads, which by the way isn't normal in Thedas proper by any means. The very first thing out of your mouth about them shouldn't be that you want to **** them, but here, it is. Not a single person is shown to be uncomfortable about it. Not one, and it's unrealistic character design at its finest. 

[Boost32]

Not all of them. Leliana used to be a Lay Sister, and to my knowledge, she's the only one that players ever interact with. The rest are standard, generic "Sisters".

Sisters have different clothes, those 2 have the same clothes the Brothers have, so they are lay sisters.

Imagine if someone completely foreign to you or your culture that you have been taught is the enemy your entire life just appeared suddenly with giant horns growing out of their heads, which by the way isn't normal in Thedas proper by any means. The very first thing out of your mouth about them shouldn't be that you want to **** them, but here, it is. Not a single person is shown to be uncomfortable about it. Not one, and it's unrealistic character design at its finest.

But Bull is a famous mercenary known by his prowess in battle Abd in the bed, everyone think he is not a member of the Qun, I really dont see the problem with that sister wanting to bed him.

[o Ventus]

Sisters have different clothes, those 2 have the same clothes the Brothers have, so they are lay sisters.

What kind of logical progression is this? Especially considering the drastic art changes between all 3 games.

[Boost32]

What kind of logical progression is this? Especially considering the drastic art changes between all 3 games.

Sorry my english is bad, I well try to explain again.
In this game Chantry people have different clothes based on their ranks.
Lay sister/brother have the black barret, white clothes and red tabards. You can see this clothes on Roderick or the lay sister Tanner.

[o Ventus]

Sorry my english is bad, I well try to explain again.
In this game Chantry people have different clothes based on their ranks.
Lay sister/brother have the black barret, white clothes and red tabards. You can see this clothes on Roderick or the lay sister Tanner.

Roderick isn't a lay sister. Tanner also isn't a real clergyman. Not to mention that every single sister in DAI is wearing those same exact clothes.

[Boost32]

Roderick isn't a lay sister. Tanner also isn't a real clergyman. Not to mention that every single sister in DAI is wearing those same exact clothes.

Roderick is a lay brother and Tanner was disguised as a lay sister. Chantry sister have different clothes, like Natalie from Leliana quest.

[Master Warder Z_]

Why do you keep telling such awful and disgusting lies?

There is only the golden unending glory of Lannister.

[o Ventus]

Roderick is a clerk, a glorified bureaucrat. Tanner isn't a real sister, stop using her as an example.

[Br3admax]

But Bull is a famous mercenary known by his prowess in battle Abd in the bed, everyone think he is not a member of the Qun, I really dont see the problem with that sister wanting to bed him.

He's a cow we didn't know of until he was introduced to us. Even in story. He's by no means "famous" for anything. He has a few high end clients, that's it. Famous people don't need references. And if you don't see the problem with suddenly accepting someone because someone else told you to, well, best of luck. 

[o Ventus]

Bull is a spy. He'd be a pretty bad spy if he were famous.

[Boost32]

Roderick is a clerk, a glorified bureaucrat. Tanner isn't a real sister, stop using her as an example.

Roderick is a brother of the Chantry, you can read in his codex. I know Tanner is not a real sister, but before you discovered she is a smmugler, she indentfied herself as one, if you dont accept her as a exemple, I dont remember any other person who identifie as a lay brother/sister.

He's a cow we didn't know of until he was introduced to us. Even in story. He's by no means "famous" for anything. He has a few high end clients, that's it. Famous people don't need references. And if you don't see the problem with suddenly accepting someone because someone else told you to, well, best of luck.

But didn't the sister already knew about him? I might be remembering wrong.

[Boost32]

Bull is a spy. He'd be a pretty bad spy if he were famous.

Famous as mercenary, not as spy =P

[o Ventus]

Roderick is a brother of the Chantry, you can read in his codex. I know Tanner is not a real sister, but before you discovered she is a smmugler, she indentfied herself as one, if you dont accept her as a exemple, I dont remember any other person who identifie as a lay brother/sister.

But didn't the sister already knew about him? I might be remembering wrong.

 

And brothers in the Chantry are clerks, not actual members of the clergy. Tanner not being a real sister nullifies any credibility she could otherwise have. You're not sure how this whole "debating" thing works, I take it.

[Boost32]

And brothers in the Chantry are clerks, not actual members of the clergy. Tanner not being a real sister nullifies any credibility she could otherwise have. You're not sure how this whole "debating" thing works, I take it.

Debating? I wasnt debating anything, just sharing my opinion on why I think those sisters are lay sister and why I didn't see any problem on one of then having sex with bull.

But we are going off topic, lets go back to Cassandra.

[o Ventus]

Debating? I wasnt debating anything, just sharing my opinion on why I think those sisters are lay sister and why I didn't see any problem on one of then having sex with bull.

But we are going off topic, lets go back to Cassandra.

It's not really a matter of opinion. Either the people in question are lay sisters or they aren't, and the evidence you cited (Roderick and Tanner) is invalid.

[Boost32]

It's not really a matter of opinion. Either the people in question are lay sisters or they aren't, and the evidence you cited (Roderick and Tanner) is invalid.

OK. Lets end this discussion then =)

[Siha]

And brothers in the Chantry are clerks, not actual members of the clergy. Tanner not being a real sister nullifies any credibility she could otherwise have. You're not sure how this whole "debating" thing works, I take it.

 

What is the logic in that? To believably disguise as a Chantry sister, who is not noticed to be a liar by others (e.g., those other Chantry people around), she must disguise "correctly". Otherwise her cover would be blown. So if nobody ever suspected her to be a liar, her disguise must be convincing. Unless I completely misunderstand what you are trying to say.

[o Ventus]

What is the logic in that? To believably disguise as a Chantry sister, who is not noticed to be a liar by others (e.g., those other Chantry people around), she must disguise "correctly". Otherwise her cover would be blown. So if nobody ever suspected her to be a liar, her disguise must be convincing. Unless I completely misunderstand what you are trying to say.

 

The only thing indicating that Tanner is portraying a lay sister is her title. Her clothes can't be used to make the distinction (between generic "sister" and lay sister), because she wears the same generic Chantry robes that 90% the Chantry NPCs all wear besides the Revered Mothers and the Divine. Trying to use her clothing as a point is further muddled because Leliana was a lay sister in DAO, and her robes are entirely different than Tanner's, or any Chantry NPC in DAI.

[Boost32]

The only thing indicating that Tanner is portraying a lay sister is her title. Her clothes can't be used to make the distinction (between generic "sister" and lay sister), because she wears the same generic Chantry robes that 90% the Chantry NPCs all wear besides the Revered Mothers and the Divine. Trying to use her clothing as a point is further muddled because Leliana was a lay sister in DAO, and her robes are entirely different than Tanner's, or any Chantry NPC in DAI.

But sisters have different clothes.

http://dragonage.wik...wiki/Antoinette
http://dragonage.wik...om/wiki/Natalie

[Colonelkillabee]

Lol we're still going on about this huh.

 

Bottom line, Thedas doesn't know diddly squat about the Qun, and assume all Qunari are of the Qun. Don't even know generally that Qunari isn't specific to the big cow men walking around with horns in their heads.

 

Just for a real life reference, the United States decided to round up Japanese American men and women when they were at war with Japan. Outsiders, no matter how hard they try to be the same are always the first blamed, the first to be suspected. It really does not matter what Bull's capacity was in Thedas at all. When they hear "Qunari. Heathen", they think of Qunari, period. That is how racism works. You really think that even if a sister weren't racist, that connotation wouldn't be present?

 

If a tevinter magister walks up to you and raises his hands and says "No bloodmage", do you let him sit down and pass the mead? Hell no.

 

And unless someone has a better argument than "Clothes different (somehow), not a sister", then we have nothing really to discuss. They were presented as sisters. There's not much reason to believe they aren't.