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At that rate, we wouldn't even need Corypheus trying to doom the world. We can do that ourselves haha!

 

Best part about it would be how the game could end with pictures of Val Royeaux in flames and the line "In retrospect, it was a bad idea to send Hawke" spoken from the off.


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Best part about it would be how the game could end with pictures of Val Royeaux in flames and the line "In retrospect, it was a bad idea to send Hawke" spoken from the off.

I could hear Morrigan's voice now.   :lol:



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You mean that "boob plate" or normal "chest plate"? I must ask to be sure. :lol:

If the former, the more I look at it the more I am convinced a well placed hit on it (or a fall, maybe) might kill you, ramming the sharp edge right through your rips. And if not that, any blade hitting the plate might not be reflected away from your body, as it should, but might rather slide inward, thus being directly diverted to the center of your chest, where you are most vulnerable. Not to mention that it might cut your neck on its way.

Just guessing though.

Yeah, sweaty, itchy, uncomfortable are issues too. Especially when we consider how metal gets hot or cold easily. It needs to be padded anyway, which makes the boob shaping useless to begin with.

 

But it looks nice.

 

Because looking  nice will totally save us when a billion arrows are aiming at you. Ahh you bring up a good point about the hot and cold.

Ahah, sorry. The picture in itself is really good, but, yeah. Typical romantic gesture, the lady wrapping a piece of cloth around her knight's arm. Also, it's tagged as Pentilyet on Tumblr. :ph34r:

 

About the boobplate (or chestplate, or breastplate, or bagsofmeatplate.), I can imagine plate armor not being pleasant to wear at all, so running around with it? Ergh. Though it would still be better than bikini armor. Between having my boobs getting sweaty and itchy and dying of an arrow stuck between the two of them, it's an easy choice.

 

I just searched the cass tag, and didn't see anything romantic about it. I hate sports bras enough as it is, but can you imagine all that extra armour strapping made super tight?

 

Below average really. Had a good setup but unfortunately the second game wasn't really the game that was supposed to make hawke a legend despite the advertisements and the "champion" thing. This game was, but Hawke got replaced, so he was a bit more average while having them tell us he's super great, which comes off rather.... well.

 

Anyway, Inquisition made me appreciate his/her story a lot more, but the Warden and Inquisitor both outshine him in my opinion. Though just as heroes, not in storytelling quality.

 

I'll give you the warden (since its established god tier ect) but the Inquisitor better than Hawke? Hell, to the no.


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I could hear Morrigan's voice now.   :lol:

 

And now I hear it too. :lol: Followed by her typical I-give-up-in-the-face-of-your-stupidity sigh.

 

Because looking  nice will totally save us when a billion arrows are aiming at you. Ahh you bring up a good point about the hot and cold.

 

I assume the enemy will just be so stunned by our amazing style that he totally forgets attacking us. That's a very reasonable... reason... to design boob plate. No?

 

I'll give you the warden (since its established god tier ect) but the Inquisitor better than Hawke? Hell, to the no.

 

I agree with you. The inquisitor is an empty shell with the personality of a bathtub plug. But some people like that.


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And now I hear it too. :lol: Followed by her typical I-give-up-in-the-face-of-your-stupidity sigh.

 

 

I assume the enemy will just be so stunned by our amazing style that he totally forgets attacking us. That's a very reasonable... reason... to design boob plate. No?

 

 

I agree with you. The inquisitor is an empty shell with the personality of a bathtub plug. But some people like that.

 

Lol  maybe they will be burn alive by the shininess of boobplate.

 

Sadly, Bioware seems to think, that only people who like bathtub plug personalities, play this game.


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Lol  maybe they will be burn alive by the shininess of boobplate.

 

Sadly, Bioware seems to think, that only people who like bathtub plug personalities, play this game.

Assuming of course I agree with the statement I do not think the two ideas have to be mutually exclusive.  One can enjoy both.  



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Oh man, those dynamics alone could have made a game. All parts of mediocre combat, mindless walking, and especially the numb shard collecting would have been a pleasure hearing Cass and Inquisihawke ramble along all the way.
 
Cass:    "So this is it? My ancestors hunted dragons here ages ago. But I never thought I'd see it with my own---"
Hawke: "We're so far out already? We'll never be back in time for dinner! That's what you get from travelling with the Inquisition."
Cass:    "What? Hawke! Look around, isn't it magnificent? Hard to picture what it was like back then, when---"
Hawke: "It really is far away, now that I think about it. Uh... we do an awful lot of walking, don't we?"
Cass:    "Can't you ever be serious about something?"

Hawke: "Not to mention the weather. In this terrain every rain shower really---"

Cass:    "Hawke!!"
Hawke: "Hawke this, Hawke that. Why does everything fall to me?"

LOL i could definitely see that convo happening , actually a sarcastic hawke like Inquisitor's interaction with anyone in this current group, from Dorian to Vivienne, would have been entertaining.



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Im of the same opinion, I found the Inqusitor to be rather boring in comparison, wish he was more Hawke like then we would have gotten a lot more disgusted noises from Cassandra.


The rude, sarcastic and humorous dialogue options are there. Just saying.

Never understood how one can criticise a character's personality when that depends on the player.
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The rude, sarcastic and humorous dialogue options are there. Just saying.

Never understood how one can criticise a character's personality when that depends on the player.

o really ? those options are there? thanks,  i had no idea that we had 3 dialogue options to pick from in this game, you learn something new everyday.

 

BTW the warden, a silent protag, also had the rude, sarcastic and humorous options available to him, by your logic that means he too had as much personality as Hawke.

 

The point we are making is that Hawke had more life to him than our current Inquisitors do but a lot of players felt as though they didnt have much control over what he/she said which in turn didnt leave much room for them to roleplay, if you actually paid attention to earlier conversations you would have gotten that.


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Ah, so you do know. My work is done.

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Lol  maybe they will be burn alive by the shininess of boobplate.

 

Sadly, Bioware seems to think, that only people who like bathtub plug personalities, play this game.

 

OH MY GOD! That's actually another good reason! Compared to a rather planar plate, the boob-shaped plate will create a wider variety of light reflections, even independent of the viewing angle. And since any enemy is male (or a woman, in which case that enemy is inferior anyway), he will obviously look at that region when attacking/threatening us, which leaves him vulnerable to these reflections, blinding him. 

You are brilliant!

 

Well, not only such people play the game, but many. BW doesn't produce classic RPGs anymore, but a lot of people still want them to. I personally prefer strong personalities, but unfortunately it would require a lot of effort to find common ground (or maybe even two different protagonists to choose from?). So one side will have to be favored. Maybe the other side screamed louder?

 

LOL i could definitely see that convo happening , actually a sarcastic hawke like Inquisitor's interaction with anyone in this current group, from Dorian to Vivienne, would have been entertaining.

 

The more you elaborate on this the more I want this. I am rather on board for playing a new protagonist in each game but now I want Hawke back so bad. Just imagine sarcastic Hawke and Solas. A feast!


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OH MY GOD! That's actually another good reason! Compared to a rather planar plate, the boob-shaped plate will create a wider variety of light reflections, even independent of the viewing angle. And since any enemy is male (or a woman, in which case that enemy is inferior anyway), he will obviously look at that region when attacking/threatening us, which leaves him vulnerable to these reflections, blinding him. 

You are brilliant!

 

Well, not only such people play the game, but many. BW doesn't produce classic RPGs anymore, but a lot of people still want them to. I personally prefer strong personalities, but unfortunately it would require a lot of effort to find common ground (or maybe even two different protagonists to choose from?). So one side will have to be favored. Maybe the other side screamed louder?

 

 

The more you elaborate on this the more I want this. I am rather on board for playing a new protagonist in each game but now I want Hawke back so bad. Just imagine sarcastic Hawke and Solas. A feast!

The answer more likely will be to do what they did in Inquisition, but an ability to chose, a tonal and more emotional dialog wheel.  Or just a really emotioal response in addition to the tone one.  I was thinking this would be brillant for ME since Shepard could never really be that sarcastic. 


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The answer more likely will be to do what they did in Inquisition, but an ability to chose, a tonal and more emotional dialog wheel.  Or just a really emotioal response in addition to the tone one.  I was thinking this would be brillant for ME since Shepard could never really be that sarcastic. 

 

But didn't many people complain about the dialogue wheel and charisma system in DA2?

Besides, DAI introduced "emotional responses" (that crying eye). I just thought that whatever you picked, it hardly transported much of a feeling. But that might have been me only.



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Assuming of course I agree with the statement I do not think the two ideas have to be mutually exclusive.  One can enjoy both.  

 

That's true, but in DAI Inquisition it's all about the people who want to play blank-slates.And there were four voice actors who suffered neutered neutrality syndrome..They could have used two of those VA for personality, and then leave two neutral overkill.

 

Bah, this whole subject grinds my gears..so I'm going to bow out.


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The more you elaborate on this the more I want this. I am rather on board for playing a new protagonist in each game but now I want Hawke back so bad. Just imagine sarcastic Hawke and Solas. A feast!

 

You and me both but i doubt thats happening given that many people dont like that type of protag, the same type of complaint were aimed at ME3's shepard if i recall.

Ah, so you do know. My work is done.

:huh: Inquisitor is that you? i know this was meant to be funny but eh i dont think its working, i even tickled myself ....still nothing , ill give you the " LOL" you so crave though , there have it.


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But didn't many people complain about the dialogue wheel and charisma system in DA2?

Besides, DAI introduced "emotional responses" (that crying eye). I just thought that whatever you picked, it hardly transported much of a feeling. But that might have been me only.

I thouht the Inquisitor was fine even in the tone meeter. *shrugs* Though I wished for more of the emotional responses.  THe way it has now the Inquisitor is more subtle then Hawke...and less extreme...which was their goal.  



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I just searched the cass tag, and didn't see anything romantic about it. I hate sports bras enough as it is, but can you imagine all that extra armour strapping made super tight?

 

LadysFavor.JPG

 

...I knew I had seen that picture already . :huh:

 

Anyway, thank you for remaining me I actually need to buy a sport bra. :P (Yeah, 'cause if the guys can talk about their little guy, we womenz can talk about bras!)


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But didn't many people complain about the dialogue wheel and charisma system in DA2?

Besides, DAI introduced "emotional responses" (that crying eye). I just thought that whatever you picked, it hardly transported much of a feeling. But that might have been me only.

 

It  wasn't just you.

OH MY GOD! That's actually another good reason! Compared to a rather planar plate, the boob-shaped plate will create a wider variety of light reflections, even independent of the viewing angle. And since any enemy is male (or a woman, in which case that enemy is inferior anyway), he will obviously look at that region when attacking/threatening us, which leaves him vulnerable to these reflections, blinding him. 

You are brilliant!

 

Well, not only such people play the game, but many. BW doesn't produce classic RPGs anymore, but a lot of people still want them to. I personally prefer strong personalities, but unfortunately it would require a lot of effort to find common ground (or maybe even two different protagonists to choose from?). So one side will have to be favored. Maybe the other side screamed louder?

 

 

The more you elaborate on this the more I want this. I am rather on board for playing a new protagonist in each game but now I want Hawke back so bad. Just imagine sarcastic Hawke and Solas. A feast!

 

The super shiny can burn out their eyes mwhahahaha.

 

Back in the day when DA2 released, people had expected origins 2, and not  DA2.  They tried to shove it out the door in a short time, and after the work given to origins..of course it was going to look bad. Anyone back at DA2's release who said anything positive was drowned out.. by the 'woe it's not origins' 'woe i want the warden'. 


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It  wasn't just you.

 

The super shiny can burn out their eyes mwhahahaha.

 

Back in the day when DA2 released, people had expected origins 2, and not  DA2.  They tried to shove it out the door in a short time, and after the work given to origins..of course it was going to look bad. Anyone back at DA2's release who said anything positive was drowned out.. by the 'woe it's not origins' 'woe i want the warden'. 

And Inquisition is still dealing with that mindset.


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Below average really. Had a good setup but unfortunately the second game wasn't really the game that was supposed to make hawke a legend despite the advertisements and the "champion" thing. This game was, but Hawke got replaced, so he was a bit more average while having them tell us he's super great, which comes off rather.... well.

 

Anyway, Inquisition made me appreciate his/her story a lot more, but the Warden and Inquisitor both outshine him in my opinion. Though just as heroes, not in storytelling quality.

The Warden and Inquisitor were suppose to be heroes, while Hawke were suppose to be just that normal guy/girl during DA:2. In Inquisition, Hawke would had became the most important person in Thedas when he became the Inquisitor. That would had rose him/her to the hero status of Thedas instead of just Kirkwall. 


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LadysFavor.JPG

 

...I knew I had seen that picture already . :huh:

 

Anyway, thank you for remaining me I actually need to buy a sport bra. :P (Yeah, 'cause if the guys can talk about their little guy, we womenz can talk about bras!)

 

I think we are ruining their utopian idea of boobs and bras lol..



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You know it is funny I do recognize that DA O is probably the superiror game technically speaking....but I did enjoy DA 2 more.  


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You and me both but i doubt thats happening given that many people dont like that type of protag, the same type of complaint were aimed at ME3's shepard if i recall.

 

:huh: Inquisitor is that you? i know this was meant to be funny but eh i dont think its working, i even tickled myself ....still nothing , ill give you the " LOL" you so crave though , there have it.

 

I am out of likes, so I must tell you in text form that this post was gorgeous in its entirety.

 

I was fine with Shepard, but it was also the first "emotional" RPG I played (I'm rather a stealth/action gamer). I had played Skyrim before but, well, Bethesda really isn't exactly known for emotional or lively RPG characters. Also I can accept Shepard to be stoic and reserved because s/he's a soldier, been through some rough times etc. etc. The inquisitor however is just a person without military background or really any experience to speak of. Not as battle-hardened (the closest it gets should be the merch background of an Adaar and that's not military either), not as "grazed" as Shepard. Hauled out of his usual life and thrown into a situation s/he is completely unfamiliar with, all unprepared. All that does not apply to Shepard, who is just a soldier in a war. So in this DAI setting a few more emotions and a wider spectrum of options might have been nice. More expensive though, so I can live with them not doing it.

 

I thouht the Inquisitor was fine even in the tone meeter. *shrugs* Though I wished for more of the emotional responses.  THe way it has now the Inquisitor is more subtle then Hawke...and less extreme...which was their goal.  

 

I would have wished for a lot more irony and sarcasm. But I understand they prefer to keep it more neutral to appeal to a wider audience.

 

Back in the day when DA2 released, people had expected origins 2, and not  DA2.  They tried to shove it out the door in a short time, and after the work given to origins..of course it was going to look bad. Anyone back at DA2's release who said anything positive was drowned out.. by the 'woe it's not origins' 'woe i want the warden'. 

 

You're right, that probably was the issue. I personally started DA2 with many prejudices (having read many bad reviews). So I kept waiting and waiting for the moment that it would turn to crap... and it just wouldn't.


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I am out of likes, so I must tell you in text form that this post was gorgeous in its entirety.

 

I was fine with Shepard, but it was also the first "emotional" RPG I played (I'm rather a stealth/action gamer). I had played Skyrim before but, well, Bethesda really isn't exactly known for emotional or lively RPG characters. Also I can accept Shepard to be stoic and reserved because s/he's a soldier, been through some rough times etc. etc. The inquisitor however is just a person without military background or really any experience to speak of. Not as battle-hardened (the closest it gets should be the merch background of an Adaar and that's not military either), not as "grazed" as Shepard. Hauled out of his usual life and thrown into a situation s/he is completely unfamiliar with, all unprepared. All that does not apply to Shepard, who is just a soldier in a war. So in this DAI setting a few more emotions and a wider spectrum of options might have been nice. More expensive though, so I can live with them not doing it.

 

:D thank you.

 

I think you misunderstood me in regards to shepard though, i liked ME3's shepard as well, i was just pointing out that, like Hawke, some people thought that he/she had too much personality of his/her own in ME3 as opposed to ME2 and 1 where he was pretty bland and they could role play him/her more. I agree with you however. Hopefully Bioware could somehow find  that right balance to make the protagonist enjoyable for those of us who like our PC to have some life while not taking too much freedom away from role players in the next DA installment.

 

I also share your sentiment on DA2, it's the game i have the most playthrough on in the series, it had its shortcomings yes but i still really enjoyed the way the story was told, Hawke went from a nobody that couldn't even get a meeting with the viscount to someone that pretty much ran the city and watching the events unfold knowing that in the end it will all eventually come crashing down ........eh ill stop as i could go on for a while on how much i really enjoyed DA2 but then we'd be here all day  :P .


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You won't get a single opinion on that. I used to play a mostly-sarcastic-with-bursts-of-aggression Hawke and never loved a protagonist as much (before or after). Others absolutely disliked him/her for being such a strong character, which limited roleplaying.


That was kind of my main issue with Hawke, he/she felt too much like an NPC