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[Master Warder Z_]

This relationship is over.

lol, why?

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[o Ventus]

First making the Horde being lead by that moron

 

Garrosh fell victim to the poor writing that began to crop up between the end of Cataclysm and Mists. During the Cataclysm leveling, he's shown as a competent, albeit a bit brash leader who does care for his soldiers. He's still prone to acting rashly, but he isn't a genocidal war-monger. It's also heavily implied in Mists that the reason Garrosh becomes to bloodthirsty is due to the Sha's corruption, and the Sha feeding off of his hatred of the Alliance, driving him more and more paranoid and mad.

 

second making the 3 most unified race in the setting split apart because of that moron

 

He's the Warchief, what are they going to do? They can't exactly just walk in to Orgrimmar and oust him, that would be seen as treason.

 

making the Dragonmaw clan into villains again (and retconning the personality of Zaela, from accepting every race and being a reformist leader who supported the values of the new Horde into a racist moron)

 

I can't think of a time when the Dragonmaw WEREN'T villains.

 

making a way to bring back the old Horde heroes and making them villains (not only in Warlords of Draenor, they already did it in Burning Crusade with Kargath Bladefist and the vanilla Wow with Blackrock and Dragonmaw clan)

 

Kargath Bladefist was never exactly a good guy, the Dragonmaw were historically pretty evil, and the Blackrock clan was led by a power-hungry warmonger. Quite literally every orc involved in the First War was an evil monster hellbent on killing every other living creature that opposed the Horde. On top of that,m the Blackrock were always quite militaristic in comparison to the other orc clans. While they may not have been "evil" before the First War, they were certainly a clan made up of ***holes, who's only really "good" member was Orgrim Doomhammer. I would also very strongly hesitate to call any of the old orc leaders "heroes". The only ones who were even remotely heroic at all were Orgrim and Durotan (and they both still participated in the genocide of the draenei, though they both deeply regretted it). Blackhand was always a warmongering psychopath, Ner'zhul was Kil'jaeden's muppet buttmonkey, Gul'dan was the one who gave the orcs the blood of Mannoroth, and Grommash Hellscream was always a violent and impulsive d**khead. The only one who can kinda-sorta be even neutral by default is Kargath, and that's only because he's not the only one who doesn't murder people at his whimsy or work for demons. He just becomes a gladiator (so he still kills people more or less for fun, even literally in his case).

 

I say all of this as someone who mains an orc in WoW (and who plays more characters who are orcs than any other race), and whose favorite race are the orcs. They aren't exactly good guys. Quite literally, during their most peaceful showings, they are chaotic neutral.

 

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But the real last straw was at the ending of Mist of Pandaria, Varian saying how he allowed the Horde to live but if they did something wrong he would come back and finish them. The Horde was finished to me, when a human tell it to them in the most powerful Horde city to their warlord and the only thing he can do is bow to his whim, I knew the Horde was finished.

 

What else were they going to say? "Okay bye, see you in Arathi Basin"? The only other logical course of action would be if Varian had dismantled the Horde right then and there, which will never happen because WoW requires 2 factions and has literally always been between the Horde and the Alliance.

[Boost32]

 

 

 

 

Garrosh fell victim to the poor writing that began to crop up between the end of Cataclysm and Mists. During the Cataclysm leveling, he's shown as a competent, albeit a bit brash leader who does care for his soldiers. He's still prone to acting rashly, but he isn't a genocidal war-monger. It's also heavily implied in Mists that the reason Garrosh becomes to bloodthirsty is due to the Sha's corruption, and the Sha feeding off of his hatred of the Alliance, driving him more and more paranoid and mad.

 

 

 

 

He's the Warchief, what are they going to do? They can't exactly just walk in to Orgrimmar and oust him, that would be seen as treason.

 

 

 

 

I can't think of a time when the Dragonmaw WEREN'T villains.

 

 

 

 

Kargath Bladefist was never exactly a good guy, the Dragonmaw were historically pretty evil, and the Blackrock clan was led by a power-hungry warmonger. Quite literally every orc involved in the First War was an evil monster hellbent on killing every other living creature that opposed the Horde. On top of that,m the Blackrock were always quite militaristic in comparison to the other orc clans. While they may not have been "evil" before the First War, they were certainly a clan made up of ***holes, who's only really "good" member was Orgrim Doomhammer. I would also very strongly hesitate to call any of the old orc leaders "heroes". The only ones who were even remotely heroic at all were Orgrim and Durotan (and they both still participated in the genocide of the draenei, though they both deeply regretted it). Blackhand was always a warmongering psychopath, Ner'zhul was Kil'jaeden's muppet buttmonkey, Gul'dan was the one who gave the orcs the blood of Mannoroth, and Grommash Hellscream was always a violent and impulsive d**khead. The only one who can kinda-sorta be even neutral by default is Kargath, and that's only because he's not the only one who doesn't murder people at his whimsy or work for demons. He just becomes a gladiator (so he still kills people more or less for fun, even literally in his case).

 

I say all of this as someone who mains an orc in WoW (and who plays more characters who are orcs than any other race), and whose favorite race are the orcs. They aren't exactly good guys. Quite literally, during their most peaceful showings, they are chaotic neutral.

 

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What else were they going to say? "Okay bye, see you in Arathi Basin"? The only other logical course of action would be if Varian had dismantled the Horde right then and there, which will never happen because WoW requires 2 factions and has literally always been between the Horde and the Alliance.

 

Look I' dont want to discuss this, as I said its over to me, I dont care anymore.

Warcraft to me was always about Horde vs Alliance, the Alliance won and now the Horde is dead to me, still sore baout it but I'm moving on.

[Qun00]

Aww man, this is disappointing. I just went through Cassandra's party banter in the wiki and Varric says nothing about the romance when both of them are in your party.

If anyone would've had an opinion about it, that's him.

[Merela]

Aww man, this is disappointing. I just went through Cassandra's party banter in the wiki and Varric says nothing about the romance when both of them are in your party.

If anyone would've had an opinion about it, that's him.

 

Did you check the banters on Varric's page as well? 'cause you missed that one:

 

• Varric: You brought up Bianca, Seeker. Does that mean I could ask about your "conquests"?
• Cassandra: I would rather you didn't.
• Varric: No tantalizing secrets to divulge?
• Cassandra: None.
• Varric: So no one within say, a, five foot radius has caught your eye?
• Inquisitor: Really? No one at all?
• Cassandra: This... is not a discussion I want to have here.
• Varric: (laughs) Are you blushing, Seeker? Maker the world is really coming to an end.

OR

• Inquisitor: Perhaps Cassandra and her... "conquest" would rather not discuss this in public.
• Varric: Spoilsport.

OR

• Varric: Nothing? You do know he's standing right there...

OR (No-romance version)

• Cassandra: I have no "conquests".
• Varric: How about dalliances? Liaisons? Illicit affairs?
• Cassandra: No.
• Sera: Enough poking, Varric.
• Varric: Is it Buttercup? Is it?

[Merela]

 

Source: http://tigernaute.tu...ge/121757488932

[Master Warder Z_]

Everything is so...brown

[Merela]

It looks more red than brown to me, actually.

 

 

Source: http://atarial.tumbl...46385/cassandra

[Master Warder Z_]

Eye color is wrong...

[Master Warder Z_]

Cassandra has these lovely smokey golden eyes...honestly their stunning..

[Merela]

Yeah, the eyes' color is wrong, but the disgusted pout is spot on.

[Master Warder Z_]

True.

[Merela]

Also look at that lower lip. Who wouldn't want to gently bite down on it?

[Master Warder Z_]

o...o

Who said anything about gentle? The first time is the gentle, ginger love dovey sex

After that you get gradually rougher

[MisterJB]

 

Source: http://paperwick.tum...nches-away-from

That looks remarkably like my Inquisitor.

 

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

That looks remarkably like my Inquisitor.

Demand money. *nods*

[Master Warder Z_]

Don't listen to boom...she lost all of her sense when Hidan's cloak got destroyed and you could see his stomach

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

*frowns*

Not true....

[Master Warder Z_]

*stares*

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

*stares*

I'm not going to melt into a puddle of weak limbs because there is a hot guy without his top on...

[Master Warder Z_]

I'm not going to melt into a puddle of weak limbs because there is a hot guy without his top on...

*stares*

[Master Warder Z_]

Boom shouldn't lie

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I'm not lying......

*runs away*

[Master Warder Z_]

o...o

[Qun00]

I don't want to rush too much towards the romance. I like having some build up.

However, that didn't stop me from doing Promise of Destruction without saving the game just to get a sneak peak.

Daaaamn, I didn't think the Inquisitor would be wading through her swamp right in the first date. Like Sera puts it, "Not as buttoned up as she plays, right?"