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#4001
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Are you trying to convince me or convince yourself? Because it won't work for me. I'm not about to get in your way though. :)


That's a very interesting way to say "I don't care about what happened historically, I still think it's implausible because reasons."

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So was there no Cass interview? Is there going to be? I figured you guys'd know, after I didn't see one in the OP.


Man, who is our lazy ass thread starter?

*checks*

Oh...
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That's a very interesting way to say "I don't care about what happened historically, I still think it's implausible because reasons.

 

I listened. Did I say anything to disparage her post?

 

I only decided to talk about narrative flow. What does it matter what works for me, personally? I'm not out to change anyone's thoughts on DAO romances or anything. I'm only here to express what I'm comfortable with. The "beats" in the story that stand out for me, so to speak. I came to the conclusion to abandon ties with Leliana on my characters. Her storyline is too out of my hands for me to care about. The conditions to believe in the romance angle get more and more implausible for me.

 

I might even say the same for the Warden's story in general. Which is why I went back and just killed them in a US ending. I've walked away from a lot when it comes to DAO. Few attachements.



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Here: http://www.dragonage...ofile-cassandra


Thank you so much - for two reasons:

1. The interview.

2. I finally know where to look for them upon actually looking at your link (The News section as opposed to The Game - Characters section).

For your trouble:

Spoiler

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#4005
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There is, it's just not organized like the others, it's just in regular paragraph format. 

 

Edit: Oh nvm, guess they either changed it or it was someone else? 

Sera's was the one that was written in a non-interview format. 



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Thank you so much - for two reasons:

1. The interview.

2. I finally know where to look for them upon actually looking at your link (The News section as opposed to The Game - Characters section).

For your trouble:

Spoiler

You're welcome. ^_^



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Here's hoping.

 

At the very least, they can't get away with Cassandra acting like "I like to be a little weak" Alistair this time.

 

Expect much headbutting.

 

I got three theories on how Cassandra let the PC lead the Inquisition:

 

1. She can't agree with Leliana (and some others) so it is decided that a neutral third party is put in charge: the PC.

2. She get sidelined by Leliana and some others in favor of the PC for religious/political reasons (i.e. they don't want her in charge and the PC might be an "agent of the Maker").

3. She decide that the "agent of the Maker" would make a nice figurehead, while she really runs most of the stuff with the advisers and only "consult" you for things they can't agree on.



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I'm still thinking the Inquisitor is a figurehead, but for gameplay reasons we are in full control of the entire Inquisition.

 

I'm sure Cass and Leliana will explain why we are put in charge.

 

Edit: Basically point 3 of what Azarhal said.



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I don't think '3' will likely happen. I don't personally care if the PC is a pawn or a real leader, but It'd be extremely bad after all the hype of the Inquisitor having full power on the organization if it'll turn out he's just a figurehead.
Plus, not everyone will believe we are a 'agent of the Maker'.

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I'm still thinking the Inquisitor is a figurehead, but for gameplay reasons we are in full control of the entire Inquisition.
 
I'm sure Cass and Leliana will explain why we are put in charge.
 
Edit: Basically point 3 of what Azarhal said.

I disagree completely. I don't see it happening at all.

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I guess we'll see.

 

I do see your point. I just hope it will get explained why Cassandra isn't gonna be in charge.



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I guess we'll see.

Yup :).
As I said, I don't care what our role will be in the Inquisition. It just seems to me a bad move to hype our role in a manner that It'd turn out completely false in the game.

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I can see the Inquisitor being a figurehead at the beginning. You know, like the first stages in any game: learn the ropes, know your initial companions and then do a thing so awesome that the others have to admit that maybe you were the right person for the job from the beginning.

 

It depends on the narrative, of course. I think it may depend on how we take Skyhold, which seems to be our first and most important keep.

 

Cassandra: "Damn, we need a fortress to start doing our job, but we only have a handful of Seekers to take it. It's impossible!"

Inquisitor: "Seeker, if you don't mind, I may have an idea".

Cassandra: "You? Really? What do you know about sieges?"

Inquisitor: "Who says anything about a siege? After talking to several minor NPCs, doing some errands and spending two hours reading codex entries, I think I have found the way to take over Skyhold".

Cassandra: "So it wasn't you just being silly and making me and the dwarf lose our precious time?"

Inquisitor: "Of course not! You think very poor of me, Seeker".

Cassandra: "And that quest to find every codex entry of 'How To Train Your Nug'?"

Inquisitor: "...I was bored?"


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I don't think '3' will likely happen. I don't personally care if the PC is a pawn or a real leader, but It'd be extremely bad after all the hype of the Inquisitor having full power on the organization if it'll turn out he's just a figurehead.
Plus, not everyone will believe we are a 'agent of the Maker'.

 

The marketing also claim we are going to "Bonds with Legends" and "have leaders for companions", but none of the companions beside Cassandra seems to be legends at the start of the game and only Cassandra, Vivienne, Iron Bull and Blackwall seems to be leaders (and Blackwall is apparently a loner).

 

It's just like Hawke being the most important person in Thedas in DA2 marketing, when the truth is that Hawke was just at the wrong place at the wrong time for everyone to blame all the crap on him.

 

I realized a while back that BioWare tend to do marketing has if it was in-setting. To everyone looking at the organization, the Inquisitor will appear to be the all-deciding leader, while in reality the advisors will probably do most of the job while the Inquisitor is busy running around the countryside.

 

Or to quote Varric:

"Trust me, the center of attention's the worst place to be.When things go wrong, and they always do, that's where all the fingers point. Look at any kingdom in Thedas."

 

I can see the Inquisitor being a figurehead at the beginning. You know, like the first stages in any game: learn the ropes, know your initial companions and then do a thing so awesome that the others have to admit that maybe you were the right person for the job from the beginning.

 

It depends on the narrative, of course. I think it may depend on how we take Skyhold, which seems to be our first and most important keep.

 

Cassandra: "Damn, we need a fortress to start doing our job, but we only have a handful of Seekers to take it. It's impossible!"

Inquisitor: "Seeker, if you don't mind, I may have an idea".

Cassandra: "You? Really? What do you know about sieges?"

Inquisitor: "Who says anything about a siege? After talking to several minor NPCs, doing some errands and spending two hours reading codex entries, I think I have found the way to take over Skyhold".

Cassandra: "So it wasn't you just being silly and making me and the dwarf lose our precious time?"

Inquisitor: "Of course not! You think very poor of me, Seeker".

Cassandra: "And that quest to find every codex entry of 'How To Train Your Nug'?"

Inquisitor: "...I was bored?"

 

One of the concept art of what we believe is Skyhold came with the following quote: "It wasn't hidden. It was uncontrolled. Like the power you now command"



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The fact that the DA2 marketing badly hyped Hawke's role was heavily criticized. I don't see why they should make the same mistake.
Considering that we have a direct proof of us deciding to send one of the advisor in a quest, I'd say we have enough power to tell them what to do.

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The fact that the DA2 marketing badly hyped Hawke's role was heavily criticized. I don't see why they should make the same mistake.
Considering that we have a direct proof of us deciding to send one of the advisor in a quest, I'd say we have enough power to tell them what to do.


Because they believe it will sell copies.

Also, EA marketing.
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Because they believe it will sell copies.Also, EA marketing.


As Milan92 said, we'll see. For now, Let's agree to disagree.

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I really love that haircut. It's just so slick.



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I am starting to think that the DA:I engine just explodes in the presence of long hair.
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The marketing also claim we are going to "Bonds with Legends" and "have leaders for companions", but none of the companions beside Cassandra seems to be legends at the start of the game and only Cassandra, Vivienne, Iron Bull and Blackwall seems to be leaders (and Blackwall is apparently a loner).

 

So far, it seems that we are talking about former leaders or great agents: Cassandra was the legendary Seeker, Iron Bull was one of the best Qunari agents in Seheron, Dorian was a Magister, Varric was the real mastermind behind Kirkwall's Merchant Guild, Blackwall was second in command in the Orlesian Wardens, Vivienne was the official enchanter in the Imperial court... Also, notice that most of them earned the job or improved it by their actions. So far, only Solas and Cole have zero experience, no matter their abilities. As for Sera, I'd like to know what was her role in the Friends of Red Jenny. She may be more important than we think.



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I wonder if Cassandra is your second in command.

 

I can't see her being on the same level as Sera, Iron Bull, Varric etc.  (The grunts)

 

The pecking order looks like:  Inquisitor > Advisers (Leliana, Cullen, Scribbles) >  everyone else

 

but I'm thinking it might be:  Inquisitor > Cassandra > Advisers (Leliana, Cullen, Scribbles) >  everyone else


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I think she's the second in command.
I don't know how relevant this might be, but in the 'Stand Together' trailer she was following right behind the Inquisitor, while the other characters were waiting around the Round Ta...I mean, the War table.

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I wouldn't be surprised if we get to pick who our second in command is.

Naturally, I'll pick Sera.

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I wouldn't be surprised if we get to pick who our second in command is.

Naturally, I'll pick Sera.

 

Oh yeah, if we can choose then Sera is the obvious one.