If she does my Inquisitor and her will get along fabulously. Same reason I expect to be on good terms with Cullen, Vivienne, Leliana and Iron Bull.
Each to their own I suppose.
If she does my Inquisitor and her will get along fabulously. Same reason I expect to be on good terms with Cullen, Vivienne, Leliana and Iron Bull.
Each to their own I suppose.
That's true. But she still seems to think mages should be under control of the Chantry and under the watchful eyes of the Templars and Seekers. I can magine that a lot of people (myself included) will clash with her on that subject.
I'm not sure if Cassandra cares that much about "chantry control" over them has much as "keeping a eye on them so they don't make a mess".
When is the last time that you saw a mage clean up after his mess in the DA setting? (excluding the PC) The answer is never. Even Avernus needed the PC to close is veil tear...
We also haven't seen it in the game yet, but Wynne mention it in DAO and I believe DAI will show some of it: the uneducated mass fears mages and will take up pickforks and torch up against them. The circles were not created to imprison mages, they were created to protect them from the uneducated mass and educate them about their power so they don't make a mess out of things. Even Tevinter has circles. In fact, they created the first ones.
We also haven't seen it in the game yet, but Wynne mention it in DAO and I believe DAI will show some of it: the uneducated mass fears mages and will take up pickforks and torch up against them. The circles were not created to imprison mages, they were created to protect them from the uneducated mass and educate them about their power so they don't make a mess out of things. Even Tevinter has circles. In fact, they created the first ones.
That was demonstrated in Asunder, when a group of peasants were about to attack Wynne, Rhys, Adrian and Evangeline simply for ordering a meal at the local tavern and spending an evening there. Apparently, they believed them responsible for burning down some guy's house.
But this is indeed something we need to see more of in the games themselves, so people can realize how much danger mages face not just from templars but common people as well.
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That was demonstrated in Asunder, when a group of peasants were about to attack Wynne, Rhys, Adrian and Evangeline simply for ordering a meal at the local tavern and spending an evening there. Apparently, they believed them responsible for burning down some guy's house.
But this is indeed something we need to see more of in the games themselves, so people can realize how much danger mages face not just from templars but common people as well.
I was led to believe that that town was the same one the little girl in the book's intro lived at. Cole's first murder in the book. She lit her house on fire. So the town just hated magic after that. They weren't blaming them specifically.
I'm not sure if Cassandra cares that much about "chantry control" over them has much as "keeping a eye on them so they don't make a mess".
When is the last time that you saw a mage clean up after his mess in the DA setting? (excluding the PC) The answer is never. Even Avernus needed the PC to close is veil tear...
To be fair, I hardly see anyone cleaning up after their own messes, which is why the protagonist is usually needed.
Given Cassandra's dialogue during the Crestwood crisis, she might be more focused on the Breach at the moment than which side the protagonist chooses in the Mage-Templar War, despite her own history. I suspect Cullen or Vivienne might have more to say on the matter, given their backgrounds.
We also haven't seen it in the game yet, but Wynne mention it in DAO and I believe DAI will show some of it: the uneducated mass fears mages and will take up pickforks and torch up against them. The circles were not created to imprison mages, they were created to protect them from the uneducated mass and educate them about their power so they don't make a mess out of things. Even Tevinter has circles. In fact, they created the first ones.
Mother Hannah also makes reference to it to an Amell Warden, assuring that he won't be harmed. Of course, Lambert also makes reference to the Chantry teaching people to fear mages (in Asunder), so this does seem to be part of Andrastian culture.
I have to admit I didn't catch that it was the same town. I know it was the town that Evangeline was familiar with, since she grew up there or somewhere nearby.
And even if it were true it doesn't justify attacking random mages for something they clearly had no hand in.
It would be neat if in Orlais someone challenged us to a duel of honor, and we could pick a champion.
I'll be my own Champion and Celene's Champion ![]()
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I have to admit I didn't catch that it was the same town. I know it was the town that Evangeline was familiar with, since she grew up there or somewhere nearby.
And even if it were true it doesn't justify attacking random mages for something they clearly had no hand in.
It doesn't justify it. I'm just pointing it out. Not supporting it or anything.
I know. Wasn't trying to imply that you supported it or anything. ![]()
That's true. But she still seems to think mages should be under control of the Chantry and under the watchful eyes of the Templars and Seekers. I can magine that a lot of people (myself included) will clash with her on that subject.
It is one thing to be brought together by the Chantry and watched by the Templars, and another to be imprisoned by the Chantry and persecuted by the Templars. The first at least has the potential to be a good thing; it is possible to have the Circle system and not have turn into a cruel, tyrannical disaster.
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With a Circle system, I think the best solution is have mages among the Seeker's ranks (along with anyone else). It makes no sense to have an Order who's supposed to watch Templar abuses when they always seem like either Templars themselves or just warriors who know nothing of a mage's life.
I find myself wondering if the Order of Seekers is going to be completely assimilated by the Inquisition. It's two most prominent members joining (and/or founding) it seems to set a precedent.
Leliana isn't a Seeker. It was already stated by the devs.I find myself wondering if the Order of Seekers is going to be completely assimilated by the Inquisition. It's two most prominent members joining (and/or founding) it seems to set a precedent.
I find myself wondering if the Order of Seekers is going to be completely assimilated by the Inquisition. It's two most prominent members joining (and/or founding) it seems to set a precedent.
I think that will likely be the case, since the Inquisition is formed prior to the protagonist becoming the Inquisitor. The Inquisition seems to be Divine Justinia's loophole now that Lambert annulled the Nevarran Accord, so I'd imagine the soldiers who remained loyal to the Chantry would be among the first members of the group.
While I think the mages need some supervision I don't believe that supervision should be provided by a group of pious warriors drawn from a population that fears and hates magic, all under control of an organized religion that teaches that all mages are inherently evil from birth.
It would be best of the Templars and Circles were secular and less restrictive organizations. If the mages could live among the population with certain restrictions, and if the Templars were not religious fanatics, things might be better.
But I digress.
Back to the topic at hand then...
So...
Cassandra is pretty cool, yeah?
Leliana isn't a Seeker. It was already stated by the devs.
Consider that most of the Seekers left the Chantry after Asunder. The initial Inquisition forces seen at the end of DA2 are likely due to some recruitment Justinia and Cassandra planned.
Magister seems to be addressing the Seekers who remained loyal to the Chantry, as opposed to the Seekers and templars who defected along with Lambert. I'm sure the Seekers who remained loyal, like Cassandra did, would likely be included among the ranks of the Inquisition.
My point is that there aren't probably enough Seekers left in the Chantry to call it an order anymore. Some templars and Seekers remained, but they seem to be very few.Magister seems to be addressing the Seekers who remained loyal to the Chantry, as opposed to the Seekers and templars who defected along with Lambert. I'm sure the Seekers who remained loyal, like Cassandra did, would likely be included among the ranks of the Inquisition.
My point is that there aren't probably enough Seekers left in the Chantry to call it an order anymore. Some templars and Seekers remained, but they seem to be very few.
On this topic, I'm curious if we'll see Seekers in the templar forces.
I hope so, they'll probably be the top ranking people
On this topic, I'm curious if we'll see Seekers in the templar forces.
I think so but not with the Red Templars.
I think so but not with the Red Templars.
So, anyone else hoping for a scene where Cassandra tests the skills of a Warrior Inquisitor with a blade? Basically, the Cassadra vs Byron scene in Dawn of the Seeker.
Note: that wasn't an euphemism.
So, anyone else hoping for a scene where Cassandra tests the skills of a Warrior Inquisitor with a blade? Basically, the Cassadra vs Byron scene in Dawn of the Seeker.
Note: that wasn't an euphemism.
You mean like a duel in Skyhold's courtyard? Something akin to the fight with Vega in ME3?
You mean like a duel in Skyhold's courtyard? Something akin to the fight with Vega in ME3?
I'm thinking something private; just to see if the walking Fade-mender isn't going to die the first time they fight a minor Rage Demon.
Figurehead or true leader, I can't imagine Cassandra would be supportive of a plan involving the head of the Inquisition walking into a cave filled with Red Templars with no protection but three bodyguards.
Yes we are Cullen's superior and he leads the troops on our behalf. Ofcourse we can still give soldiers orders, but in order to avoid getting too many tasks; we put Cullen in charge.
You do know how a military hierarchy works right?
Yeah, I know. I'm just saying we lead a huge organization.