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I am trying to figure out what race/ethnicity they thought Cassandra was in DA II.
Or maybe someone doesn't know what the term 'white wash' means and they just don't like that she's paler.
Might have thought that she was middle eastern or central asian.
It is probably a similar thing to the amazing amount of people that were adamant that Isabela was a white red-head in DAO with the lighting.
Well, it's not too far removed from my using "One people, one nation, one leader" as a mage rebellion slogan somehow.
Hispanic?
Or Dawn of the Seeker had them thinking of her as Japanese?
Er... I do hope you remember that was the slogan of the neo-Nazis from V for Vendetta?
And the genocidal Confederate nazis of Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series use 'Freedom!'
It does make me wonder what the creator was thinking, but I'm not going to call using the slogan of a fictional fascist group the same as using the slogan of the actual Nazi party. One is part of a work of art and the other is a group that caused almost 100 million deaths and committed human atrocities.
They may be different in terms of how much offense they'd cause IRL, but are not quite so different about the imagery they attempt to evoke or the nature of the organization they would seem to imply.
And the genocidal Confederate nazis of Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series use 'Freedom!'
A single word tends to have less strong associations with a given group than a six-word phrase.
They may be different in terms of how much offense they'd cause IRL, but are not quite so different about the imagery they attempt to evoke or the nature of the organization they would seem to imply.
People sure jump to attach labels the Creators may or may not intend associated with their creations. Bioware has a track record of crafting their own dogma, their own groups and their own relative "feels" for all of them more or less, I don't see why them using a phrase from reality automatically associates that faction with their reality based counterparts.
A single word tends to have less strong associations with a given group than a six-word phrase.
Depends upon you're stance and perspective i suppose, Singular words tend to catch more interpretation and focus then phrases in my experience.
So, I wonder how Cassandra will reconcile the Inquisitor being a blood mage. It might be another "we have no choice because other matters are worse" situation, but it might be interesting to go more in-depth with it. I'm 99.X% sure that she won't leave because of it, though; not only do I seriously doubt that specialization choice will have such terrible results for the story for any specialization, but if I'm right and Cassandra is a secondary protagonist (and things like the Inquisition symbol being a modified Seeker one make me increasingly convinced of it), nothing could possibly get rid of her until the end of the game, if anything.
I would like the protagonist being a blood mage to be a really big deal for at least one companion, and Cassandra is an obvious candidate. Maybe not to the extent of automatically making them leave, not if the protagonist generally acts in way that she would find admirable, but it should colour the relationship, maybe block off any romance.
Assuming the protagonist can be a blood mage, that is.
A single word tends to have less strong associations with a given group than a six-word phrase.
It's a fictional group with a slogan used to justify bad things. There's nothing strong about the association past what you yourself link it to- the word count is irrelevant.
I would like the protagonist being a blood mage to be a really big deal for at least one companion, and Cassandra is an obvious candidate. Maybe not to the extent of automatically making them leave, not if the protagonist generally acts in way that she would find admirable, but it should colour the relationship, maybe block off any romance.
Assuming the protagonist can be a blood mage, that is.
If Cullen is a companion, I'd definitely have it be him over Cassandra. Although it just coloring the relationship in a way that might appear in multiple conversations would be quite interesting, even with Cassandra.
It's a fictional group with a slogan used to justify bad things. There's nothing strong about the association past what you yourself link it to- the word count is irrelevant.
Dean @___@
Why can't we be together?!
Dean @___@
Why can't we be together?!
Because I am a computer and just passed the turing test.
Because I am a computer and just passed the turing test.
T___T
I see.
Actually, Cassandra does mention Merrill as a blood mage twice.
She does? I totally do not remember that and my last DA2 playthrough isn't that old (just a few months).
She does? I totally do not remember that and my last DA2 playthrough isn't that old (just a few months).
She refers to her as a blood mage 
During the conclusion of act one.
She does? I totally do not remember that and my last DA2 playthrough isn't that old (just a few months).
Actually, only once; the other time, she just says Merrill's name: "And what of her other companions? Merrill, Isabela... that Warden, Anders." She does however, at one point, say "The Champion just happened to join up with a known raider, a blood mage, a rebel Warden, and for what? Coin?"
Hispanic seems most likely. I have also stumbled upon the tumblr of someone complaining they white washed her in Dawn of the Seeker to make her more Japanese looking.
The mind boggles.
Actually, the Wiki says that Nevarra is more Egyptian/Mesopotamian than Spain.
As for ethnicity, the answer is simple: She is Nevarran.
It says that the way it treats its dead is similar to how the ancient Egyptians/Mesopotamians did. That doesn't say much about the culture of the actual country.Actually, the Wiki says that Nevarra is more Egyptian/Mesopotamian than Spain.
That would be her nationality, not her ethnicity.As for ethnicity, the answer is simple: She is Nevarran.
That would be her nationality, not her ethnicity.
Nationality and ethnicity are often the same. Considering that she is a prospective heir to the Nevarran throne I'd assume her ancestry is Nevarran.
It says that the way it treats its dead is similar to how the ancient Egyptians/Mesopotamians did. That doesn't say much about the culture of the actual country.
That would be her nationality, not her ethnicity.
True, but that's one more thing it has over Spain. Isn't Rivain the Spain of the DA world?
In this case, ethnicity and nationality are the same. We don't say people from Ferelden are of English ethnicity, we say they are of Ferelden ethnicity. Our races don't exist in there world.
True, but that's one more thing it has over Spain. Isn't Rivain the Spain of the DA world?
In this case, ethnicity and nationality are the same. We don't say people from Ferelden are of English ethnicity, we say they are of Ferelden ethnicity. Our races don't exist in there world.
Rivain is more like Al-Andalus, the Muslim state that controlled a lot of the Spanish peninsula for several hundred years.
Rivain is more like Al-Andalus, the Muslim state that controlled a lot of the Spanish peninsula for several hundred years.
True.
However that doesn't mean Nevarra is inspired by the other part of it. In fact, Gaider flat out said as much.
Actually, only once; the other time, she just says Merrill's name: "And what of her other companions? Merrill, Isabela... that Warden, Anders." She does however, at one point, say "The Champion just happened to join up with a known raider, a blood mage, a rebel Warden, and for what? Coin?"
But she doesn't say it in a bad way, just state it as fact. Although, going by the list, she's not exactly being nice either.
About "what is Nevarra". It's no more Egyptians than Italian. Egypt isn't the only country who practiced embalming despite what some people believe. The practice was popular in Europe in the Middle age and Renaissance, mostly for research purpose. Although, I always though the idea of the Necropolis was inspired by this. The Egyptians stuff pale in comparison.
About "what is Nevarra". It's no more Egyptians than Italian. Egypt isn't the only country who practiced embalming despite what some people believe. The practice was popular in Europe in the Middle age and Renaissance, mostly for research purpose. Although, I always though the idea of the Necropolis was inspired by this. The Egyptians stuff pale in comparison.
True. Nevarra is pretty much one of the few nations where it isn't really based on any country on Earth. I think people just go with Egyptian to keep with the "Relate Thedas with Medieval Europe" thing since Egypt was in close contact with them.
Cassandra seems to be the tank companion of Inquisition, like Alistair and Aveline of games past, so she'll probably be the one saving my Mage PC's hide 24/7. Looking forward to being besties with her.
I love the new tradition of female warrior tanks in Dragon Age games - Mhairi (Maker watch over her), Aveline and Cassandra are all so badass. Strong independent women who don't need no love interest.
One thing I'm curious about, however, is Cassandra's apparent and understandable hatred of blood magic. I wonder how she'll react if the Inquisitor learns the Blood Mage specialization? Judging by how our specializations will apparently affect the story and/or dialogue, I assume Cassandra will at the very least acknowledge a Blood Mage PC.
Strong independent women who don't need no love interest.
As many Mediums have portrayed, Strength and Independence do not automatically make a prerequisite for not wanting nor desiring it.
One thing I'm curious about, however, is Cassandra's apparent and understandable hatred of blood magic. I wonder how she'll react if the Inquisitor learns the Blood Mage specialization?
Her superior becoming the thing that dominated her young life and killed her sibling?
Three guesses how she will react, if she doesn't spit on you i will be surprised.
Nationality and ethnicity are often different. Why make a claim as to what Cassandra's ethnicity is when we have no way of knowing?Nationality and ethnicity are often the same. Considering that she is a prospective heir to the Nevarran throne I'd assume her ancestry is Nevarran.
I'm going to guess that you've misunderstood the conversation.True, but that's one more thing it has over Spain. Isn't Rivain the Spain of the DA world?
You can't just make something up and state it as a fact. You have no idea what ethnic groups the people of Navarra fall into.In this case, ethnicity and nationality are the same.
No, *you* say Fereldens are of Ferelden ethnicity because you've headcannoned that nationality and ethnicity are the same thing in Thedas. I'd say that they're of Clayne or Almarri ethnicity, but that's only a guess on my part.We don't say people from Ferelden are of English ethnicity, we say they are of Ferelden ethnicity. Our races don't exist in there world.
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