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[Dr. Doctor]

The ruling Pentaghast line is currently running the risk of coming to an end because both King Markus Pentaghast and his brother have no heirs and the latter has no interest in the throne. There's also allegations that the Mortalitasi, a group of mages that serve the Nevarran court as spiritual advisors are ruling through the king Grimma Wormwood-style.

Cassandra might not be close to the ruling line but she could be able to take the throne if necessary given that she saved the Divine from a blood mage plot and served as her Right Hand. If anyone could convince the people that the Pentaghasts are still strong enough to rule it would be her.

I'd suppose that one of the only ways to convince her to take the throne is if the rumours about the Mortalitasi turn out to be true.

[azarhal]

The ruling Pentaghast line is currently running the risk of coming to an end because both King Markus Pentaghast and his brother have no heirs and the latter has no interest in the throne. There's also allegations that the Mortalitasi, a group of mages that serve the Nevarran court as spiritual advisors are ruling through the king Grimma Wormwood-style.

Cassandra might not be close to the ruling line but she could be able to take the throne if necessary given that she saved the Divine from a blood mage plot and served as her Right Hand. If anyone could convince the people that the Pentaghasts are still strong enough to rule it would be her.

I'd suppose that one of the only ways to convince her to take the throne is if the rumours about the Mortalitasi turn out to be true.

 

You know, the royal palace Mortalitasi supposedly controlling the king are related by blood to the king (mentioned in WoT). The entire political climate in Nevarra seems more to be an anti-Pentaghasts one than "evil mages are controlling the king someone come save us". Actually, it seems extremely similar to what happened after the 4th Blight: General Van Markham used slander against the Pentaghasts (and murder) to take over the throne. The Pentaghasts retreated to Hunter Fell and spent a few decade killing lots and lots of dragons...(and look dragons are back!)

 

As for Cassandra, she is the Hero of Nevarra biggest enemy (Orlais). She just spend over 20 years living in said country too. I don't see her gaining the popularity required to be put on the Nevarran throne.

[Mistic]

As for Cassandra, she is the Hero of Nevarra biggest enemy (Orlais). She just spend over 20 years living in said country too. I don't see her gaining the popularity required to be put on the Nevarran throne.

 

It would be ironic if she ended up being accused of being too Orlesian for the Nevarran throne. Especially since so far she's practically the only Nevarran we know in some depth (okay, technically Merrill was born in Nevarra, but I don't think it counts).

 

There is one comment to Byron in DoTS, along with the brother fixation, that make me think Cassandra never had a father. She tell Byron that she would be proud to have him as a father (*sniff*).

 

So it was her uncle who taught her the noble art of stabbing books, then?

[azarhal]

So it was her uncle who taught her the noble art of stabbing books, then?

 

That is how the Pentaghasts start their training to stab dragons.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That is how the Pentaghasts start their training to stab dragons.

"If you can stab through a book, you can stab through a dragon."

[Wolfen09]

In 5:37 Exalted, Nestor Pentaghast was killed and Tylus Van Markham seized the throne beginning the Van Markham dynasty, forcing the remaining members of the Pentaghast family to flee to their ancestral home of Hunter Fell. Eventually the last Van Markham king died during the Steel Age, leaving no male heir. His daughter married a member of the Pentaghast clan, restoring Pentaghast rule and merging the two families. Together, they solidified Nevarra's status as a significant power in Thedas. The Pentaghasts maintained their rule for generations while their Van Markham relatives enjoyed an equally lofty status among the nobility.^[2]

The current King of Nevarra is Markus Pentaghast, a man of significantly advanced years. The most immediate successor is his younger brother Ferdinand, the famed Dragon Hunter. Neither brother has any known offspring. Members of the Pentaghast and Van Markhams are lining up to replace Markus in the event of his inevitable death. However, some Nevarran noble families believe both clans had held power for too long and figure that they must step aside.^[3]

 

^{(taken from dragon age wiki)}

 

 

so its not necessarily the pentaghasts who could take the throne of nevarra

[The Elder King]

Yup. There are members of both families who want the throne, plus other nobles. The country is on the verge of a civil war.
How curious that the most powerful Andrastian countries are in this situation, don't you think ?

[tmp7704]

As for me it is another step away from realism. That big dude with shield just is more natural.

No realism gets hurt by having some women able to wield swords and shields, especially in fictional setting where males and females have absolutely equal physical and mental capabilities.

[Shadow Fox]

I can see how nerds find this idea of dominatrix type women intriquing.

As for me it is another step away from realism. That big dude with shield just is more natural.

You can be lean and strong you know?

 

and actually the "Conan" builds aren't that natural either.

[Mistic]

Yup. There are members of both families who want the throne, plus other nobles. The country is on the verge of a civil war.
How curious that the most powerful Andrastian countries are in this situation, don't you think ?

 

Agreed. I smell conspiracy. Because it would be too easy to stop the Mage-Templar War if just the Divine called for aid from those countries. Heck, Orlais alone could handle it. But now? One could be a coincidence. Two? Not so much.

 

"If you can stab through a book, you can stab through a dragon."

 

The book was probably called "How To Stab Your Dragon".

[azarhal]

Yup. There are members of both families who want the throne, plus other nobles. The country is on the verge of a civil war.
How curious that the most powerful Andrastian countries are in this situation, don't you think ?

 

Are you saying that someone made sure neither Markus nor Ferdinand had kids. That's a power of manipulation that is rather godly. The other choice is that Markus and Ferdinand have no known children now, because they are all dead, not because they never had any. Which suggest murder and planning...

 

I've been musing that the event where Antony died (that's Cassandra's brother) was meant to purge the royal bloodline, no just get some dragon blood (which means that survivor were not planned...). I find it rather strange that blood mage cultists would just show up at their doorsteps and make demand, than start to kill everyone when refused. It sound more like something that would happen pre-Andraste not 900+ years after the Chantry was created.

[Uccio]

No realism gets hurt by having some women able to wield swords and shields, especially in fictional setting where males and females have absolutely equal physical and mental capabilities.

 

 

Not true, having equal physical capabilities means that any bar wench/ washer woman is on a equal footing with any warrior qunari. Highly unlikely wouldn´t you think?

[The Elder King]

Are you saying that someone made sure neither Markus nor Ferdinand had kids. That's a power of manipulation that is rather godly. The other choice is that Markus and Ferdinand have no known children now, because they are all dead, not because they never had any. Which suggest murder and planning...
 
I've been musing that the event where Antony died (that's Cassandra's brother) was meant to purge the royal bloodline, no just get some dragon blood (which means that survivor were not planned...). I find it rather strange that blood mage cultists would just show up at their doorsteps and make demand, than start to kill everyone when refused. It sound more like something that would happen pre-Andraste not 900+ years after the Chantry was created.

Interesting theory about DotS.
As for Nevarra's particular situation, I'm not sure how someone would manipulate them, but based on what Laidlaw:Darrah stated during the GI coverage, how every countries and organizations are in crysis and unable to act about the Fade tears, like someone would be behind it, leads me to believe the Nevarra crysis isn't completely natural.

[Uccio]

You can be lean and strong you know?

 

and actually the "Conan" builds aren't that natural either.

 

 

Lean and strong is not the same as supermodel and strong. Women who have strength usually look like it. Conan just depends if you are referring to the Arnold version or the original one. Arnold went too far yes but the book version is more plausable.

[Mistic]

I've been musing that the event where Antony died (that's Cassandra's brother) was meant to purge the royal bloodline, no just get some dragon blood (which means that survivor were not planned...). I find it rather strange that blood mage cultists would just show up at their doorsteps and make demand, than start to kill everyone when refused. It sound more like something that would happen pre-Andraste not 900+ years after the Chantry was created.

 

That surprised me too. So far, in the games we had seen runaways or madmen, not entire armies of blood mages roaming in the countryside. I tried to rationalize it. Things in Orlais may be different, perhaps there are big cults that we haven't seen yet, that was a special one (they did get external support, after all).

 

But I think the solution is much more simple:

Spoiler

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Not true, having equal physical capabilities means that any bar wench/ washer woman is on a equal footing with any warrior qunari. Highly unlikely wouldn´t you think?

Is the woman a Qunari too? Or are you comparing different races?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That surprised me too. So far, in the games we had seen runaways or madmen, not entire armies of blood mages roaming in the countryside. I tried to rationalize it. Things in Orlais may be different, perhaps there are big cults that we haven't seen yet, that was a special one (they did get external support, after all).

 

But I think the solution is much more simple:

Spoiler

Racist. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Racist. 

 

 

But not wrong.

[Shadow Fox]

Not true, having equal physical capabilities means that any bar wench/ washer woman is on a equal footing with any warrior qunari. Highly unlikely wouldn´t you think?

No more unlikely than an untrained fat slob like Lloyd or skinny twig like Finn being able to take Cassandra or Leiliana in a fight.

[Master Warder Z_]

No more unlikely than a fat slob like Lloyd or skinny twig like Finn being able to take Cassandra or Leiliana in a fight.

 

...Hinata put up more of a fight against Pain then Lloyd or Finn would against either of those two girls...

 

._. Both of them are better trained, have more experience and have experience dealing with Mages and magic...and Loyd is just a tavern keeper...least Finn was a half decent apostate.

[tmp7704]

Not true, having equal physical capabilities means that any bar wench/ washer woman is on a equal footing with any warrior qunari. Highly unlikely wouldn´t you think?

Keep on mind capabilities are only part of the full picture. Thus not *any* bar wench/washer woman, but a woman who spends her life training combat, at the end of the day will have attributes equal to the warrior qunari who trains as much as she does. It's something that's been established by the game's combat mechanics.

[Ianamus]

Not true, having equal physical capabilities means that any bar wench/ washer woman is on a equal footing with any warrior qunari. Highly unlikely wouldn´t you think?

 

Women having equal physical capabilities to men means that the obese woman who lives across the street is on equal footing with trained male soldiers?

 

I don't understand how "realism" is hurt. A fully trained female warrior will not be as strong as a fully trained male warrior in real life, that is true. That being said they will still be stronger than a lot of men and definitely strong enough to fight effectively. 

[Wulfram]

We don't really know anything about Cassandra's physique because she's well armoured. 

 

Ideally she'd be a bit more muscular than the standard female model in Bioware games has been.

[Ianamus]

We don't really know anything about Cassandra's physique because she's well armoured. 

 

Ideally she'd be a bit more muscular than the standard female model in Bioware games has been.

 

I do agree with this. My only complaint with the female combatants in Dragon Age games is that they have no muscle definition at all. I hope they do a Mikasa with Cassandra and actually give her some abs, though she will almost certainly just have the same skinny build as all the other female humans. The only thing I think we will actually get is muscular female Qunari. 

[azarhal]

I hope they do a Mikasa with Cassandra

 

Oh Hell Yes!

 

 

Interesting theory about DotS.
As for Nevarra's particular situation, I'm not sure how someone would manipulate them, but based on what Laidlaw:Darrah stated during the GI coverage, how every countries and organizations are in crysis and unable to act about the Fade tears, like someone would be behind it, leads me to believe the Nevarra crysis isn't completely natural.

 

I always had that impression. Although, there might be a lot of opportunist involved, sometimes all it takes is one word in the right ear to make someone lust for the throne and murder the succession.

 

Or maybe I read too much A Song of Ice and Fire (aka Game of Thrones).