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Hi! I'm poking over from the Varric thread, and wanted to say hi!
We are playing the Petquisition! game right now, if anyone is interested!
Group submissions are accepted, so I thought it would be fun for all of the character threads to make their own group chart!
Check it out if you are interested, and be sure to post a group chart if you want in the OP!
http://forum.bioware...ition-the-game/
Personally, for Inquisitors who wish to romance Cassandra, I do not think they have to be pro-Chantry or even Andrastian. They just have to be responsible, reasonable and have their own principles. That is all male Inquisitors have to do.
I base this off Regalyan.
He never changed for Cassandra. He was himself throughout the movie. He is a mage and he is not apologetic about yet he feels sorry for Cassandra's brother. He got the job done which is to save the girl. He viewed Cassandra as a comrade and he was only joking about Cassandra "liking it on top".
So IMO, if male Inquisitors, be it a mage or a human noble or a Dalish elf or a surface dwarf, can romance Cassandra successfully provided they are responsible, they have a code / standard of honor they live by and be themselves.
I do not think Cassandra is into men who change themselves because she is Andrastian. If anything, IMO, Cassandra values other things but definitely not conformity. We have seen plenty of examples of herself not conforming to conventions, instead preferring to just get her job done.
She is described as 'pious and driven', a woman who refused to abandon the church and the Divine, even as most of her compatriots did so. Her character has been given the moniker of 'The Believer'. A center piece of her story arc, and by extension her romance, will be her faith.
Does one need to be Andrastian to romance her? I doubt that highly. In fact, I think it would make for a very good RP experience to have it be otherwise. After all, Cassandra apparently sees 'eye-to-eye' with Vivienne and the Iron Bull. Neither of them strike me as firm Andrastians. Certainly not the IB, though the jury is still out with Viv. But a woman like Cassandra is not going to go through a whole romance(Or friendship, for that matter) with a Dalish elf without some kind of discussion on where he stands, religiously. Same goes for any other Inquisitor. It's an important part of her character, and every Inquisitor better be prepared to discus it one way or another, even if it is only to say, "You know, I just don't think about it all that often"
I'm also a glutton for stories involving people finding their faith, so maybe it's just me.
well, considering the only person we have encountered up to this point who raised the whole "he doesnt follow andraste, he must die cause hes a heathen," was petrice in da2... i really dont see this game addressing any religious issues when the templars and mages are destroying stuff, celene and gaspard cant stop fighting, and demons raining down. Plus bioware has been really good about making the romances really neutral in terms of beliefs. So i doubt we will have to have any sort of tie to the chantry to romance her
Guys i found cass in a wig and a dress
I had the impression that the "no start the game as a leader" meant that the player wasn't a recognized leader of anything at the start of the game. Many people made the claim that the Inquisitor needed to be a recognized leader to be selected leader of the Inquisition. I always made the claim we would be random dudes with no leadership background. Right now, my year old idea of how the game start have been pretty much spot on.
I somehow expect Cassandra to be coerced in letting the player lead, but if she believes we are an agent of the Maker she might actually be the one to offer the job because of it. It's all depends of what she think the PC is.
Or it could just be that there is no "leader" per se and the first few hours of the game is just you and Cassandra (+ Varric) trying to gather allies. Cassandra doesn't step down, but as the Inquisition grows, the PC, because of the mark and natural leadership skills, just kind of slips into the role of leader.
She is described as 'pious and driven', a woman who refused to abandon the church and the Divine, even as most of her compatriots did so. Her character has been given the moniker of 'The Believer'. A center piece of her story arc, and by extension her romance, will be her faith.
Does one need to be Andrastian to romance her? I doubt that highly. In fact, I think it would make for a very good RP experience to have it be otherwise. After all, Cassandra apparently sees 'eye-to-eye' with Vivienne and the Iron Bull. Neither of them strike me as firm Andrastians. Certainly not the IB, though the jury is still out with Viv. But a woman like Cassandra is not going to go through a whole romance(Or friendship, for that matter) with a Dalish elf without some kind of discussion on where he stands, religiously. Same goes for any other Inquisitor. It's an important part of her character, and every Inquisitor better be prepared to discus it one way or another, even if it is only to say, "You know, I just don't think about it all that often"
I'm also a glutton for stories involving people finding their faith, so maybe it's just me.
Well if my Dalish Elf mage decides to romance Cassandra, it would probably go something like this :-
Cassandra :- "So Inquisitor, you do not believe in Andraste or the Maker."
Inquisitor :- "No. Don't take it too personally though. I don't believe in the whole Creators either even though I am Dalish. Or the Stone. Or the Qun."
Cassandra:- "You don't believe in anything then ?"
Inquisitor:- "I did not say that. I believe in facts. I believe in reality. *fires of a bit of magic* "I believe in that which I can touch, see, hear, taste and sense."
Inquisitor :- "I believe that Andraste is a woman who accomplished remarkable things because there is evidence for it. I don't believe that she did the things she did because the Maker told her so and I don't believe that she is a deity now because there is no evidence for this."
Cassandra :- "I suppose I can see where you are going Inquisitor..."
Inquisitor :- *holds Cassandra's hands and looks at her* "I believe that the woman in front of me now is an amazing, capable and a tough woman. I believe that the woman in front of me now is beautiful and lovely. I can see this. I can sense this. I can touch this"
Cassandra :- "Inquisitor...I..."
Inquisitor :- "and I really love and adore those who I believe in." *kisses her*
Tis' a bit cheesy, I know, but if my Dalish Inquisitor romances her and he is an atheist / rationalist, then most probably this is how it would go down...
Guys i found cass in a wig and a dress
thats not cassandra, thats iron bull
Well if my Dalish Elf mage decides to romance Cassandra, it would probably go something like this :-
Cassandra :- "So Inquisitor, you do not believe in Andraste or the Maker."
Inquisitor :- "No. Don't take it too personally though. I don't believe in the whole Creators either even though I am Dalish. Or the Stone. Or the Qun."
Cassandra:- "You don't believe in anything then ?"
Inquisitor:- "I did not say that. I believe in facts. I believe in reality. *fires of a bit of magic* "I believe in that which I can touch, see, hear, taste and sense."
Inquisitor :- "I believe that Andraste is a woman who accomplished remarkable things because there is evidence for it. I don't believe that she did the things she did because the Maker told her so and I don't believe that she is a deity now because there is no evidence for this."
Cassandra :- "I suppose I can see where you are going Inquisitor..."
Inquisitor :- *holds Cassandra's hands and looks at her* "I believe that the woman in front of me now is an amazing, capable and a tough woman. I believe that the woman in front of me now is beautiful and lovely. I can see this. I can sense this. I can touch this"
Cassandra :- "Inquisitor...I..."
Inquisitor :- "and I really love and adore those who I believe in." *kisses her*
Tis' a bit cheesy, I know, but if my Dalish Inquisitor romances her and he is an atheist, then most probably this is how it would go down...
put this in the party banter thread now, not up for discussion this is gold
Well if my Dalish Elf mage decides to romance Cassandra, it would probably go something like this :-
Cassandra :- "So Inquisitor, you do not believe in Andraste or the Maker."
Inquisitor :- "No. Don't take it too personally though. I don't believe in the whole Creators either even though I am Dalish. Or the Stone. Or the Qun."
Cassandra:- "You don't believe in anything then ?"
Inquisitor:- "I did not say that. I believe in facts. I believe in reality. *fires of a bit of magic* "I believe in that which I can touch, see, hear, taste and sense."
Inquisitor :- "I believe that Andraste is a woman who accomplished remarkable things because there is evidence for it. I don't believe that she did the things she did because the Maker told her so and I don't believe that she is a deity now because there is no evidence for this."
Cassandra :- "I suppose I can see where you are going Inquisitor..."
Inquisitor :- *holds Cassandra's hands and looks at her* "I believe that the woman in front of me now is an amazing, capable and a tough woman. I believe that the woman in front of me now is beautiful and lovely. I can see this. I can sense this. I can touch this"
Cassandra :- "Inquisitor...I..."
Inquisitor :- "and I really love and adore those who I believe in." *kisses her*
Tis' a bit cheesy, I know, but if my Dalish Inquisitor romances her and he is an atheist, then most probably this is how it would go down...
Whenever the fanbase tries to bring atheism into realities full of magic, demons, spirits and all sort of woodoo stuff and show it as a superior ideology I can't help but facepalm
No atheists in Dragon Age, as told by Gaider. Granted you're free to make your character a potato if you feel like it but, heh, not even Qunari and Morrigan are atheists
Whenever the fanbase tries to bring atheism into realities full of magic, demons, spirits and all sort of woodoo stuff and show it as a superior ideology I can't help but facepalm
No atheists in Dragon Age, as told by Gaider. Granted you're free to make your character a potato if you feel like it but, heh, not even Qunari and Morrigan are atheists
Sigh. My character believed in that he could see, touch, hear, sense, smell. He believes in reality. He believes in the world as it is.
He believes in evidence. He does not believe in any of the religious dogma or myths because there is no evidence for them to be fully true.
Demons, magic, spirits in Thedas can be seen, can be observed, can be sensed and can even be commanded.
Morrigan :- Magic is real. I can touch it and command it and I need no faith for it to fill me up inside. If you are looking for your higher power, there it is.
By that extension, he would be an atheist or if that term offends you so much, use the term rationalist instead.
I do not wish this to become a atheist or not thread for this thread is about Cassandra. If you want to discuss more with me, use the PM.
Sigh. My character believed in that he could see, touch, hear, sense, smell. He believes in reality. He believes in the world as it is.
He believes in evidence. He does not believe in any of the religious dogma or myths because there is no evidence for them to be fully true.
Demons, magic, spirits in Thedas can be seen, can be observed, can be sensed and can even be commanded.
Morrigan :- Magic is real. I can touch it and command it and I need no faith for it to fill me up inside. If you are looking for your higher power, there it is.
By that extension, he would be an atheist or if that term offends you so much, use the term rationalist instead.
I do not wish this to become a atheist or not thread for this thread is about Cassandra. If you want to discuss more with me, use the PM.
As said Gaider himself, Morrigan is no atheist
Atheists do not believe in supernatural ****. Demons, spirits and magic itself is supernatural. It's not just Gods (and in the world of Thedas there is plenty of evidences). Just because you can feel it, command it doesn't make it any less supernatural
Just deal with it
I do not wish this to become a atheist or not thread for this thread is about Cassandra. If you want to discuss more, use the PM.
Aww.....but I had about a thousand ABANDON THREAD gifs I've been dying to use....
On topic: I wonder what Varric will say if the Inquisitor is involved with Cassandra?
Inq: Varric, has Cassandra always been this....angry?
Varric: Yep. But I've only seen her smile one other time before she met you.
Inq: *pulls up a chair* Really? When was that?
Varric: Well, let me tell you a story. *leans against a nearby table* About 2 years ago, I was being dragged through a hallway. I didn't know what had hit me when I was nursing my drink at the bar that night, but it must have been heavy.....
Aww.....but I had about a thousand ABANDON THREAD gifs I've been dying to use....
On topic: I wonder what Varric will say if the Inquisitor is involved with Cassandra?
Inq: Varric, has Cassandra always been this....angry?
Varric: Yep. But I've only seen her smile one other time before she met you.
Inq: *pulls up a chair* Really? When was that?
Varric: Well, let me tell you a story. *leans against a nearby table* About 2 years ago, I was being drug through a hallway. I didn't know what had hit me when I was nursing my drink at the bar that night, but it must have been heavy.....
Varric would probably be surprised, be intrigued and then he would proceed to write friend fictions about it and spread stories about the "Wild Seeker" among the Inquisition troops.
Above all though, unless you are being a jerk to Varric, he would be happy for you. He would be my best bro in the game after all.
I recall that he forgot that Morrigan had those lines in the Leliana's banter, though I don't recall what he stated after that, if he still doesn't consider her atheist or not.As said Gaider himself, Morrigan is no atheist
Atheists do not believe in supernatural ****. Demons, spirits and magic itself is supernatural. It's not just Gods (and in the world of Thedas there is plenty of evidences). Just because you can feel it, command it doesn't make it any less supernatural
Just deal with it
I recall that he forgot that Morrigan had those lines in the Leliana's banter, though I don't recall what he stated after that, if he still doesn't consider her atheist or not.
Here
https://twitter.com/...482726664667136
'Sides it would be weird. Her kid may have a soul of a god. Does she believe he doesn't exist? Poor child
Varric would probably be surprised, be intrigued and then he would proceed to write friend fictions about it and spread stories about the "Wild Seeker" among the Inquisition troops.
Above all though, unless you are being a jerk to Varric, he would be happy for you. He would be my best bro in the game after all.
As a bro, he would probably feel compelled to warn the Inquisitor about the time Cassandra stabbed through the book and almost in to his . . . well, you know.
I wasn't referring to this. He posted on BSN in the atheist discussion and aknowledged that he forgot about Morrigan's lines, but i don't remember what he said after. That tweet was what started the debate on BSN.Here
https://twitter.com/...482726664667136
'Sides it would be weird. Her kid may have a soul of a god. Does she believe he doesn't exist? Poor child
I wasn't referring to this. He posted on BSN in the atheist discussion and aknowledged that he forgot about Morrigan's lines, but i don't remember what he said after. That tweet was what started the debate on BSN.
It won't be necessarily weird. She might believe in the existance of the Old Gods, but she might not believe they're truly 'gods'.
For the record, unless Gaider trolled about dragon being just animals and not sentient beings, I'm curious about the OG's true nature.
It doesn't really change anything. She does believe in Old Gods, in demons, spirits and magic. Hell, she is a mage and her mother is the most supernatural character in the whole series, probably. Forget the Maker, what the hell is Flemeth?
He was serious as far as I understand, since it was made to avoid all these "dragons are wise, smart sentient old creatures who can talk and ****". Though the concept of animals as not sentient beings is itself very tricky... well, whatever.
Old Gods can't be dragons. We have seen dragons corrupted by taint. Not to mention that in the DLC OD pretty much talk to the PC-darkspawn. Plus, biologically only female dragons have wings but Old Gods, at least half of them, are male. And they have wings, so...
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I think the thing with Morrigan is she simply doesn't care. It doesn't mean she doesn't believe in some of these things. Everything about her revolves around independence and commanding her own powers.. not necessarily skepticism.
Guys can we get back to our Lady Seeker instead ? This is her thread after all. PM works much better. 
Looks great. Too light tho, IMHO. And lacks red shades
Still, looks great
Speaking of Cassandra, what is that band thing on the back of her head ? I cannot believe I just noticed it now.
Is it a headband ? Or a hairband ? Why is she wearing them though ? Her hair is short so it does not actually need a band, even though it looks cool and rather hippy.
Also i am curious to learn the story about her armor. Which crafter did she go to get all those awesome love symbols ?
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Speaking of Cassandra, what is that band thing on the back of her head ? I cannot believe I just noticed it now.
Is it a headband ? Or a hairband ? Why is she wearing them though ? Her hair is short so it does not actually need a band, even though it looks cool and rather hippy.
Also i am curious to learn the story about her armor. Which crafter did she go to get all those awesome love symbols ?
I guess she has a small section of hair grown out that she ties up.
Kind of reminds me of Obi Wan and Anakin's haircuts.
Speaking of Cassandra, what is that band thing on the back of her head ? I cannot believe I just noticed it now.
Is it a headband ? Or a hairband ? Why is she wearing them though ? Her hair is short so it does not actually need a band, even though it looks cool and rather hippy.
Also i am curious to learn the story about her armor. Which crafter did she go to get all those awesome love symbols ?
I guess she has a small section of hair grown out that she ties up.
Kind of reminds me of Obi Wan and Anakin's haircuts.
Seeker mullet ? 
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