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[Mistic]

Well, given how closely tied the Chantry is with Orlais I think it's relevant in that respect. 

 

True. Makes you wonder about what Cassandra would have done in Kirkwall.

 

No, I'm not talking about Hawke's adventures, but about the events in 9:21, when Viscount Threnhold tried to expell the Templars and ended up executed. Of course, the Templars argued that it was a direct agression against them, but they forget the part about how the Divine used them to pressure the Viscount because he charged large fees to Orlesian ships. Too muddy for someone as heroic as Cassandra... or not?

[azarhal]

True. Makes you wonder about what Cassandra would have done in Kirkwall.

 

No, I'm not talking about Hawke's adventures, but about the events in 9:21, when Viscount Threnhold tried to expell the Templars and ended up executed. Of course, the Templars argued that it was a direct agression against them, but they forget the part about how the Divine used them to pressure the Viscount because he charged large fees to Orlesian ships. Too muddy for someone as heroic as Cassandra... or not?

She would have become disillusioned faster...

In DotS, her reaction to learning that someone was planning to kill the Divine was so...naive. She was too much of a white knight in shining armor that though everything was perfect in the Chantry. Which is why I find her "I see the world differently now" sort of scary at the end of the anime.

 

Now, she is a really grumpy black wearing white knight in dirty armor who think everyone is guilty of something...

[Dr. Doctor]

If it wasn't for the fact that things exploded in Act 3 I'm wondering if the Seekers wouldn't have decided to pay a visit to Kirkwall.

The Knight-Commander of the local chapter of the Order basically usurps the local government and her subordinates are voicing their lack of confidence in her sanity. That should send up some major red flags.

Varric might be joining the Inquisition because he feels guilty about contributing to the current state of the world. Cassandra might be joining out of a sense of duty, but perhaps she feels a sene of guilt for dropping the ball with the Kirkwall incident?

[Former_Fiend]

I for one don't think we'll be seeing a Nevarran invasion in Inquisition; no one seems to be more keenly aware of the impending succession crisis than the Nevarrans, themselves. I doubt they'd try to invade they're strongest rival while they're on the brink of a civil war, even if Orlais is showing it's own weakness at the moment.

 

If it did come to that, I'd hope Cassandra would be able to overcome any sense of nationalism and remember the inquisition's purpose and the greater threat faced by the world.

[Artemis Leonhart]

I don't know, Aveline was a "protect everyone" kind of character, Cassandra seems to be more pragmatic: in the pre-alpha demo Cassandra wasn't contrary to the Inquisitor's decision of letting the village of Crestwood burn in order to save the keep. I have the feeling that Aveline wouldn't have approved of letting the villagers die to save a keep. So, in my opinion they're not going to be the same person. Similar? Perhaps. Identical? Unlikely.
I might very well be wrong of course, we don't actually know how Cassandra will turn out to be on the whole, after all.

[azarhal]

Aveline is all about the spirit of the law, guard and protect and she do not believe in the Maker. She has a motherly demeanor and is all about stability: family, work, friends. She's like the only character in DA2 without some psychological issues too.

 

Cassandra is a stoic pious pragmatic noble from one of Thedas most Legendary families with an aggressive demeanor and a traumatic childhood. I can guarantee you she's not about stability.

 

Not sure where the similarities are?

[Vearsin]

Aveline is all about the spirit of the law, guard and protect and she do not believe in the Maker. She has a motherly demeanor and is all about stability: family, work, friends. She's like the only character in DA2 without some psychological issues too.

 

Cassandra is a stoic pious pragmatic noble from one of Thedas most Legendary families with an aggressive demeanor and a traumatic childhood. I can guarantee you she's not about stability.

 

Not sure where the similarities are?

They are both self serious aggressive warrior women with a tendency to be a bit close minded and socially awkward. 

[azarhal]

Aveline definitely does not have a motherly demeanor. Heck, Isabella acts more "motherly" than Aveline does.

 

Aveline is the first three things you mention: All about the spirit (and the letter, especially the letter) of the law, guard and protect. That seems to describe Cassandra to me.

 

Maybe it's because I only go off of what I see in games, not backstory, but I don't know about any traumatic childhood. I just know about a woman who's determined to do X to save her institution, just like Aveline does with the guard in Act's 1 and 3 (with the former captain).

 

Isabela motherly? We must have quite different mothers, mine surely never wanted to sleep with me. Aveline always seemed to be motherly to me: understanding, too helpful and always nagging me to keep in line.

 

When it comes to aggression nothing Aveline does in DA2 come close to what Cassandra do to Varric in the first few minutes by slamming a book in his face and stabbing a dagger in it. Cassandra is shown angry and screaming all through the prologue, Act 1 and Act 2. She even smirk after throwing the book in Varric's face, as if she likes scaring people. Aveline doesn't even like threatening a guy in DA2's prologue, but does it anyway because he deserved it.

 

Aveline being dedicated to the law and Cassandra being dedicated to the Chantry/Inquisition doesn't make them similar characters.

 

@StreetMagic

 

The Pentaghast are mentioned in Awakening Dragonspite bow and The Last Descent armor in DA2. They also have a few codex mention as well.

[Dr. Doctor]

Cassandra isn't exactly someone I would call a "people person", assuming the worst of people is kind of a part of the Seeker's job description. Having her family murdered, mentor/father-figure killed, and her near execution due to a Templar plot has turned her into a Knight in Sour Armor.

She might be the pragmatist of the group but based on how she attempts to console Varric after Crestwood she's got a warm side to her.

[azarhal]

Lol. I was mostly thinking about Merrill. Isabella takes an extremely motherly stance with her.

 

No, Cassandra never screams. She doesn't even yell. She just talks loudly and occasionally shouts. And I personally never saw any "smirk" on her face.

 

And did you play Aveline's quests in Act 1 and Act 3? She's extremely aggressive in both of them, especially in three when her reputation is being challenged. That's right on par with anything I've seen Cassandra do (though Cassandra's actual methods are a bit different, being a "soldier" as opposed to a guard).

 

Edit: I definitely wouldn't call Meredith evil myself (hearing her response to Hawke's claim that she's painting all mages with a broad brush--"and it breaks my heart to do so" kind of removes that possibility), but that's further off topic. I only wanted to point out that Cassandra seems like the same kind of character as Aveline.

 

I call the "loudly" and "shouts" screaming personally and there is a smirk, right when she turns around after stabbing the book, last like 1 seconds. You have to pay attention to her face and not Varric holding the book. Anyway, no point arguing over it, but be warned that they are different characters and maybe try to watch Dawn of the Seeker (And either start to hate Cassandra or fall in love with her).

 

As for the person who said that Cassandra was lawful good? Would a Lawful good person abandon the village of Crestwood?

 

I actually suspect that she is a straight take on the byronic hero, with a bit of deconstruction here and there.

[Master Warder Z_]

I call the "loudly" and "shouts" screaming personally and there is a smirk, right when she turns around after stabbing the book, last like 1 seconds. You have to pay attention to her face and not Varric holding the book. Anyway, no point arguing over it, but be warned that they are different characters and maybe try to watch Dawn of the Seeker (And either start to hate Cassandra or fall in love with her).

 

As for the person who said that Cassandra was lawful good? Would a Lawful good person abandon the village of Crestwood?

 

I actually suspect that she is a straight take on the byronic hero, with a bit of deconstruction here and there.

 

She isn't lawful Good, She is lawful Neutral.

 

I actually think she can be nudged into Lawful evil!

 

then her and my Inquizzy will have many lawful evil babies together!

[Maria Caliban]

I might very well be wrong of course, we don't actually know how Cassandra will turn out to be on the whole, after all.

Which is bizarre as we've had an entire movie about her.
 

All about the spirit (and the letter, especially the letter) of the law...

No, I'd say that Aveline cares far more about the spirit of the law than the letter.

Samara would be the character who cares most about the letter of the law.

[Master Warder Z_]

Which is bizarre as we've had an entire movie about her.

 

Takes place two decades prior to DAI.

 

Its natural for a character to have some evolution in that, plus she was a teenager.

 

Are we like we were at Cass's age in DOTS?

[Master Warder Z_]

Good question. I haven't changed all that much, I think. And I'm in my 30s.

 

I'd need something really dramatic **** to change my core personality probably. Here's hoping that doesn't happen. I hate drama.

 

I had the "drama" i am completely alien from my teenage self in most regards.

[Artemis Leonhart]

Which is bizarre as we've had an entire movie about her.

I didn't see the movie, but I read about it on the wiki (not the same thing, I know, I'll remedy that when I can) and my understanding was that from Dawn of the Seeker to Inquisition quite a few years have passed. She may have changed during this time.
She also may have not changed at all, but I find it odd, everyone changes at least a bit during the course of their lives. But, as always, I might be wrong.