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For anyone who got through the books, is she like... better in that? Likeable? Fun?

Because in DA2 she captures/kidnaps Varric, damn near stabs a knife through his ****** and screams at him repeatedly. Just wondering why she's so popular.

 

She's a seeker!

 

:wub:

 

Even if she picked the wrong side, she's still a seeker.



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Well it takes all kinds to make a world. Personally I want to avoid any kind of cougar thing going on when I romance Cass as a human. 

I dig it :P

 

Come think of it, she'll be perfect for my first playthrough: a somewhat sleazy slothball human mage, in his mid-late twenties, quite comfortable with the previous status quo in the circle, too lazy/tired to have any real vested interest in the current conflict, and only traveled to the summit because hes 1. forced to by his conclave 2. hoping to chase some "forbidden" skirts of cute chantry sisters. Then survives the explosion, meets Cassandra instead, and stardust and cupid worked their magic. Finding out that she's a hotshot veteran seeker with 10 years on him only enticed him even more. As a wise man once said: "I love the kind of woman that can kick my ass." :wub:  :D  :D 


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I dig it :P

 

Come think of it, she'll be perfect for my first playthrough: a somewhat sleazy slothball human mage, in his mid-late twenties, quite comfortable with the previous status quo in the circle, too lazy/tired to have any real vested interest in the current conflict, and only traveled to the summit because hes 1. forced to by his conclave 2. hoping to chase some "forbidden" skirts of cute chantry sisters. Then survives the explosion, meets Cassandra instead, and stardust and cupid worked their magic. Finding out that she's a hotshot veteran seeker with 10 years on him only enticed him even more. As a wise man once said: "I love the kind of woman that can kick my ass." :wub:  :D  :D

You're gonna carry that weight....


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Short of racism, the only "story reason" for her to be gated against non-humans would likely involve her being of noble birth, which can be twisted around just as easily to justify her being gated against humans as well.

 

So there are logical reasons for Cassandra to be unromanceable by the Inquisitor that is most similar to her, both culturally and in his background, but to be race-gated against non-humans comes down to nothing more than racism or her being of noble birth? Gotta disagree there. Everything we've seen of Cassandra so far has indicated that her noble ancestry means very little, if anything, to her. I can't see it being a barrier to any of the races, human or no.

 

And there are plenty of logical reasons for her to be race-gated against non-humans that have nothing to do with shallow racism, or even indirect racism. But these are non-racist reasons why I think Cassandra could be race-gated if the devs decided she should be:

 

Qunari - I doubt Cassandra has a high opinion of mercenaries. To her, that could be a profession in which you are selling your own soul for a little bit of coin. You have no beliefs of your own, and nothing that you are fighting for other than worldly goods.  I think she could find that distasteful.

Dwarf - Coterie connections and criminal past. Just like the Qunari's mercenary occupation, this could serve as a serious barrier. Who knows what kind of things a Coterie dwarf has done to survive? Plus, the lyrium smuggling has led to serious problems within the Circle and the Templar Orders. She could associate the dwarf Inquisitor with the corruption leading up to the Mage-Templar war.

Dalish - The Dalish are a historical enemy of the Chantry, and the cultural differences between herself and the Dalish Inquisitor may be too much for her to overcome. She'll be your friend, but she'll stop at that.

 

Do I think Cassandra will be race-gated in any way? No. But are these reasons that the devs could use to justify her being so? Absolutely. And they don't ave anything to do with race.

 

Personally, I think a character's religious stance will be more of a barrier than race or background. Given Cassandra's strong faith, I think that an Inquisitor who stands against the Chantry, or takes a severe Anti-Andrastian stance, will cause too much friction with Cassandra to bring on a romance. Does this mean you have to be Sebastian 2.0, or be a kowtowing, Pro-Circle, Pro-Templar mouthpiece? Hardly. But if you seek at every opprotunity to destabilize and dismantle the religion that Cassandra dedicated two decades of her life to, there's going to be issues.



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So there are logical reasons for Cassandra to be unromanceable by the Inquisitor that is most similar to her, both culturally and in his background, but to be race-gated against non-humans comes down to nothing more than racism or her being of noble birth? Gotta disagree there. Everything we've seen of Cassandra so far has indicated that her noble ancestry means very little, if anything, to her. I can't see it being a barrier to any of the races, human or no.

 

And there are plenty of logical reasons for her to be race-gated against non-humans that have nothing to do with shallow racism, or even indirect racism. But these are non-racist reasons why I think Cassandra could be race-gated if the devs decided she should be:

What,does not being physically attracted to the other races count as racism?  That's a bunch of crap and you know it.  You act as if you have control over what physical aspects of people you can be attracted to.

 

Now if she treated those other races horribly because of their race, then that's more along the lines of racism.



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You're gonna carry that weight....

Don't need to remind me; one of the finest endings i have experienced in any media. Let's hope DAI's ending can match up (but don't let Cass romance end the same way pleeaassee???)


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Don't need to remind me; one of the most depressing endings i have experienced in any media. Let's hope DAI's ending can match up (but don't let Cass romance end the same way pleeaassee???)

fixed that for ya, but yes, agreed on that last part. 



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Don't need to remind me; one of the finest endings i have experienced in any media. Let's hope DAI's ending can match up (but don't let Cass romance end the same way pleeaassee???)

 

I'd people happy with that...and or Cass not being brutally killed by strangulation and tossed into a lake and left for dead.

 

...That will likely be one of the brutal deaths I've ever seen in a visual media...



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What,does not being physically attracted to the other races count as racism?  That's a bunch of crap and you know it.  You act as if you have control over what physical aspects of people you can be attracted to.

 

Now if she treated those other races horribly because of their race, then that's more along the lines of racism.

 

Where did you get the idea that I thought not being physically attracted to someone counted as racism? That is far from my opinion.



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Personally, I think a character's religious stance will be more of a barrier than race or background. Given Cassandra's strong faith, I think that an Inquisitor who stands against the Chantry, or takes a severe Anti-Andrastian stance, will cause too much friction with Cassandra to bring on a romance. Does this mean you have to be Sebastian 2.0, or be a kowtowing, Pro-Circle, Pro-Templar mouthpiece? Hardly. But if you seek at every opprotunity to destabilize and dismantle the religion that Cassandra dedicated two decades of her life to, there's going to be issues.

 

A large part of Cassandra's personal story, according to David Gaider, involves questioning her faith and duty.

 

I'm not sure how much that impacts her chances of romancing a non-Andrastian, but it's important to note here.

 

Given her willingness to romance a mage (since class restrictions are not happening), it seems that she doesn't adhere too closely to Chantry doctrine (or the popular interpretation of it).

 

At any rate, it is odd to me that the option of multiple playable races was announced last August while Cassandra's romance was announced just this April. If Cassandra ends up being gated to humans only, it seems that she was going to be that way from the beginning.



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From a really well done prompt about what Solas sees in the dreams of the companions:

 

"Solas enjoys Cassandra’s dreams most.  She dreams of heroes and heroines, princes and true love, in a way that only someone with so much hope can.  In her dreams he is only ever a spectator.  When her suitor comes in reality, Solas will ensure he meets her dream’s expectations."

 

 

http://thedragonthat...ons-solas-theme


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From a really well done prompt about what Solas sees in the dreams of the companions:
 
"Solas enjoys Cassandra’s dreams most.  She dreams of heroes and heroines, princes and true love, in a way that only someone with so much hope can.  In her dreams he is only ever a spectator.  When her suitor comes in reality, Solas will ensure he meets her dream’s expectations."
 
 
http://thedragonthat...ons-solas-theme


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welp, i know what solas will be seeing in my inquisitor's dreams...  wink wink nudge nudge....  yep, waffles, tasty tasty waffles....  what did you think i meant?



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From a really well done prompt about what Solas sees in the dreams of the companions:

 

"Solas enjoys Cassandra’s dreams most.  She dreams of heroes and heroines, princes and true love, in a way that only someone with so much hope can.  In her dreams he is only ever a spectator.  When her suitor comes in reality, Solas will ensure he meets her dream’s expectations."

 

 

http://thedragonthat...ons-solas-theme

 

That would be awesome if Solas would watch over everyone during their dreams.



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That would be awesome if Solas would watch over everyone during their dreams.

I can imagine some would take exception to it though. It is very intrusive.


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Well, she is technically part of the royal family of Nevarra. I guess they could try to pressure her into one if things were really bad for them? I'm not sure how much influence they could have over her considering she's the right hand of the Divine and an important member of the Inquisition.

 

Now I want the option for awkward political marriages in this game. :lol:  Bioware pls



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I can imagine some would take exception to it though. It is very intrusive.

 

Meh, its only a dream.



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That would be awesome if Solas would watch over everyone during their dreams.

If he did, Solas would get bumped up to one of my favourite characters



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Meh, its only a dream.

 

And dreams are very private things


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Solas just became much more creepy then i initially pegged him for, watching other peoples dreams.



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Solas just became much more creepy then i initially pegged him for, watching other peoples dreams.

 

It's not official or anything, just some well written fan-fic.



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And dreams are very private things

 

Its not like one can control what they dream.



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Its not like one can control what they dream.

Dreams are affected by the thoughts of the person dreaming.

 

Example: Let's say a character has a crush on someone, but hasn't confessed yet.  Their feelings for the person can still manifest in their dreams.



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Dreams are affected by the thoughts of the person dreaming.

 

Except you can't control your thoughts when you are asleep. If you think about a certain event or person before going to sleep; it doesn't mean you will dream about those specific things.



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It's not official or anything, just some well written fan-fic.

 

...Think mine is better written but anyway.

 

It's the principle, i have to WONDER about that now what with him being a dreamer and all, the thought hadn't occurred before.

 

-_- Might need to erm arrange for the elf to killed in a dream or something.