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[Maria Caliban]

I always spared him. I didn't realize that not one person approved of that.

 

So yes, apparently that's a stupid question. Everyone would kill the dude.

[azarhal]

 

 

I was thinking of the Dragon Age II quest called Magistrate's Orders.

 

A magistrate in high town asks you to retrieve a criminal alive. When you head to where the guards are waiting, they tell you that he's the magistrate's son and a serial killer who's apparently murdered dozens of elves and elven children in the Alienage. Whenever he's caught, the magistrate makes sure he gets a light sentence and goes free again.

 

When you meet the killer, he seems to be suffering psychologically and believes that he's possessed by demons who force him to kill people against his will.

 

You can either kill him or hand him over to the guards.

 

Which of these do you think Cassandra would prefer?

 

If the PC decided to bring back the guy alive, she would probably do it herself..and shrug (my blade slipped).

[Xilizhra]

It was really bizarre. I thought it was a nuanced issue. But apparently whoever wrote the quest is a big fan of vigilantism.

It's not really that nuanced. He wants to die so that he'll stop killing people.

[Enshaid]

It's not really that nuanced. He wants to die so that he'll stop killing people.

Yeah, you're right. I still think it's strange that the party that couldn't agree on where to eat for lunch was unanimously in favor of a decision.

Any decision.

[Maria Caliban]

If the PC decided to bring back the guy alive, she would probably do it herself..and shrug (my blade slipped).

 

It seems so.

 

Well, I hope in DA:I, we get one companion who wouldn't.

[Xilizhra]

It seems so.

 

Well, I hope in DA:I, we get one companion who wouldn't.

Why's that?

[Maria Caliban]

I know it's dark fantasy, but I'd like a compassionate companion.

[Xilizhra]

I know it's dark fantasy, but I'd like a compassionate companion.

How is that not compassionate? He's literally begging for death. Merrill is very compassionate overall, Anders and Varric are generally so. Even Aveline and Isabela sometimes. And Sebastian.

[Ianamus]

How is that not compassionate? He's literally begging for death. Merrill is very compassionate overall, Anders and Varric are generally so. Even Aveline and Isabela sometimes. And Sebastian.

 

I don't really like the indication that the only solution to having mental disabilities is death.

[azarhal]

I know it's dark fantasy, but I'd like a compassionate companion.

 

The thing with that quest is the compassionate option was killing the guy too, it was what he asked so he could be stopped and he knew his father wouldn't punish him if he was brought back (nor was he going to be helped, because in Thedas psychologists do not exist).

[Maria Caliban]

How is that not compassionate? He's literally begging for death. Merrill is very compassionate overall, Anders and Varric are generally so. Even Aveline and Isabela sometimes. And Sebastian.

 

Many people with serious mental illnesses have suicidal thoughts and tendencies.

 

When you decide that some humans are just mad dogs who need to be put down, you are hardly being compassionate.

[Maria Caliban]

The thing with that quest is the compassionate option was killing the guy too, it was what he asked so he could be stopped and he knew his father wouldn't punish him if he was brought back (nor was he going to be helped, because in Thedas psychologists do not exist).

 

The entire situation is a work of fiction.

 

Why can't he be put into prison? His father is actually fine with this, it's just that it's impossible for the guards to keep him there because... reasons. Why can't we find a healer for him? Even though we have incredibly healing magics and mages who specialize in mental manipulation, there's no cure.

 

Okay, so we have a situation where he'll either be free to kill again or you kill him.

 

That's fair. But not one companion objects to it? A group of people who can't agree on anything all suddenly decide 'kill the mentally ill guy because he's an unstoppable monster' is fine. And even the girl who originally asks you to spare him will come up to you later and tell you that she was being stupid and killing him was for the best.

 

That seems like an incredibly strong bit of narrative skew there.

 

So yes, in DA:I, I'd hope that we have at least one companion who would dislike that specific option.

[Xilizhra]

I don't really like the indication that the only solution to having mental disabilities is death.

It's not, and you can exercise an alternate one with Bartrand. The problem is that Vanard will not give Kelder any actual help in this area.

 

 

Many people with serious mental illnesses have suicidal thoughts and tendencies.

 

When you decide that some humans are just mad dogs who need to be put down, you are hardly being compassionate.

It's specific to this circumstance, and isn't only because of Kelder's particular illness.

 

I'm not saying that the lack of alternate options was all that well-written, because it does seem fairly stupid, but that's what we have to deal with.

[Master Warder Z_]

I usually don't agree with the Tome stealing Pirate but her statement rung true in this instance.

 

Isabella: "Bastard won't even own up to his own depravity."

 

Kelder needed to go.

[Enshaid]

So ummm Cassandra's headband thing! Right. That's on-topic. What's the deal with that? Discuss.

[Former_Fiend]

Cassandra is up there with Iron Bull and Beard Warden as one of the companions I'm most looking forward to, and that's coming from someone who hated Dawn of the Seeker.

 

She's strong, both mentally and physically, driven. Determined, but not unreasonable. Practical, pragmatic.

 

She's my first choice for romance, providing she makes the cut for LI.

[TheLittleBird]

Cassandra sounds like a great LI fit for my Inquisitor.

 

Also, the headband? I like it. Fits her character very well, for its practical purposes.

[Enshaid]

Cassandra is up there with Iron Bull and Beard Warden as one of the companions I'm most looking forward to, and that's coming from someone who hated Dawn of the Seeker.

 

She's strong, both mentally and physically, driven. Determined, but not unreasonable. Practical, pragmatic.

 

She's my first choice for romance, providing she makes the cut for LI.

 

Dawn of the Seeker never happened and no one can tell me otherwise. 

 

But yes, I've got everything crossed hoping that she's an LI.

[Xilizhra]

She might be my LI if Sera is unavailable.

[Maria Caliban]

So ummm Cassandra's headband thing! Right. That's on-topic. What's the deal with that? Discuss.

 

I'm not even sure what you're talking about.

[Artemis Leonhart]

So ummm Cassandra's headband thing! Right. That's on-topic. What's the deal with that? Discuss.

It looks a bit weird, but it's nothing deal breaking for me. As to its purpose...well, it's an hairstyle, yes? I guess the purpose is to not have hair all over the face while fighting, it makes sense. Still, I would have preferred a plain short cut like the one she had in da2.

[Master Warder Z_]

I think my first planned Inquisitor and her would get along marvelously.

 

They could go on sprees of random violence against Mages, spreading the chant of light and possibly sitting her fine posterior on a throne.

 

Of course lawful evil children would follow.

[Maria Caliban]

Of course lawful evil children would follow.

 

Do you see Cassandra as lawful evil?

[Hellion Rex]

I'm not even sure what you're talking about.

[TheLittleBird]

So.... I guess I should not watch Dawn of the Seeker then?

The main reason I haven't already is because the artstyle kind of puts me off a little.