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[Basement Cat]

I'm always curious at what Square-Enix is thinking when they design the weapons for their games. I mean I really love JRPGs, but...how are you supposed to kill people with those? By inducing too much laughting?

JRPGs are big fans of the 'rule of cool'. Multi color hair, impossible jumps, ridiculously over the top weapon designs, etc. Style over substance big time. It's part of the reason I prefer Western rpgs as a rule. They tend to be less insane, if just a little bit.

[HK-90210]

Depends: back when armor was in style, no they weren't all that good. When firearms started showing up armor was discarded because it was largely ineffective against bullets. Then speed became more important than hacking power and thus thrusting weapons were made. It was more economical metal wise too.

 

When heavy armor was the fashion though, the only kind of sword that had any effect was a piercing one, such as the Estoc. Even then, it was far less effective hammers or maces, especially spiked ones. But try as I might, I don't see Cassandra using hammers or maces. I know she'll be able to in-game, but it just doesn't fit her look, IMO.

 

This is more her style:

 

Notice that the cross-guard is totally straight. No curves, I think, is better for Cassandra.

[Giant ambush beetle]

Even then, it was far less effective hammers or maces, especially spiked ones. But try as I might, I don't see Cassandra using hammers or maces. I know she'll be able to in-game, but it just doesn't fit her look, IMO.

I don't see Cass using hammers either, or any of the characters because from what I've seen hammers are absolutely ridiculous in size and shape. Not even a powerlifter could wield those. And no sign of one-handed hammers, which is big bummer.    

I just hope we'll get good maces, they're my favorite weapons and my Inquisitor will be wielding one, but knowing Bioware....ehh....

Heck, are maces even confirmed to appear in DAI? 

 

 

[JAZZ_LEG3ND]

Yeah, Cass is all about that sword.
 
Personally I'm somewhat a Claymore fan... must be the Scottish in me.
 

[TheJediSaint]

Sword and board seems to be her iconic style.  I don't see any reason to change it.  

 

Which isn't to say I'm against equipping her with a mace so she can inflict some blunt force trauma.

[Giant ambush beetle]

Knights always carried a secondary weapon on their belts which was almost always a blunt weapon like a mace or a hammer. The reason for this was if they had to fight a heavily armored enemy on the battlefield their sword was useless and they switched weapons.  

[AresKeith]

Sword and board seems to be her iconic style.  I don't see any reason to change it.  

 

Which isn't to say I'm against equipping her with a mace so she can inflict some blunt force trauma.

 

*tries to equip a mace of Cassandra*

 

Cassandra: I only use swords 

[TheDragonOfWhy]

Yeah, Cass is all about that sword. Personally I'm somewhat a Claymore fan... must be the Scottish in me. 

Much the same, always been a fan of claymores, and the scottish basket hilted broadsword. But then being a Scot, it's expected of me.

[Aimi]

When firearms started showing up armor was discarded because it was largely ineffective against bullets.

This is not correct. Armor is far more effective against firearm projectiles than no armor.

After the widespread adoption of handheld firearms in European warfare, armor simply became cost-inefficient. The "Military Revolution" historians - Michael Roberts, Geoff Parker, and their epigones - have shown that chemical explosive projectile weapons necessitated a humongous increase in rulers' military establishments. Only the new "Italian trace" fortification style could stand up against bombardment, and such fortresses required an exponentially larger garrison. Any attempt to besiege such places would also require more men. The "Military Revolution" hypothesis argued that the financial and bureaucratic power necessary to mobilize and supply these larger armies contributed dramatically to centralized state formation. But Parker in particular has also argued that even with the improvements in banking, governance, logistics, and suchlike things, the new armies of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries were too small to meet requirements.

Costs had to be defrayed somehow. Sometimes that meant cutting armor issue in favor of uniforms and small arms; other times, it meant imposing new financial duties and restrictions on the aristocratic warriors who had once been able to supply their own armoring.

Yet even these measures were incremental; they did not cause the disappearance of body armor altogether. Into the early sixteenth century, many infantrymen still made use of some protection, usually around the chest, though this slowly disappeared by about 1650. But even after that, almost all European armies continued to maintain heavy cavalry units, often classified as cuirassiers after the metal protection they donned. Cuirassiers and other heavy armored cavalry were not made obsolete by firearms. Instead, they kept their role all the way up to the late nineteenth century, and participated decisively in some of the era's most famous battles. Imagine the Battle of Vienna (1683) without Poland-Lithuania's armored "Winged Hussars".

In addition to employing metal body armor, cuirassier regiments would act very much like their knightly ancestors. They would be largely comprised of noblemen, many of whom could buy their own gear or at least defray the cost to the state of providing it. They would maintain an aristocratic ethos and code of conduct, and as a result their social standing would be near the top of an army's pyramid.

There are other, scattered examples from history to show that metal body armor was far from useless against bullets: the last stand of the Australian outlaw Ned Kelly, for instance. It was simply beyond the financial and practical means of states of the time to armor everybody. And no state in world history has seriously tried to armor everybody anyway.

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On-topic, I would like Cassandra to be armed with a proper flail.

[Tevinter Rose]

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[Basement Cat]

I don't see Cass using hammers either, or any of the characters because from what I've seen hammers are absolutely ridiculous in size and shape. Not even a powerlifter could wield those. And no sign of one-handed hammers, which is big bummer.    

I just hope we'll get good maces, they're my favorite weapons and my Inquisitor will be wielding one, but knowing Bioware....ehh....

Heck, are maces even confirmed to appear in DAI? 

 

*snip snip*

 

 

Axes are equally ridiculous in most games. Real battle axes were small.

Spoiler

 

[Basement Cat]

 

Those are the more common war axes, yes (one handers).

 

But fantasy "battleaxes" are based on larger double axes. They go as far back at least to ancient greece (like the labrys). To be fair though, they still weren't used in combat as much.

Yep. Double axes were mostly used for ceremonial purposes. This guy gives a good explanation.

 

 

Edit: I think the 'war axe' and 'battle axe' thing was an invention from the Elder Scrolls. I can't find a mention of a distinction in real life documents.

[KC_Prototype]

YAAAAAAAAssssSSS!!!

[KC_Prototype]

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Who's the last one?

[Tevinter Rose]

Who's the last one?

 

I think it's Bethany, not totally sure though.

[Basement Cat]

Fantasy wise, it would have predate that. I mean, Tolkien described his dwarves as wielding two handed "mattocks" way back in the 1930s. It's also a staple of D&D. The Elder Scrolls developers originally based their first game off a spin off D&D scenario they played.

You mean the 'war' and 'battle' distinction? Two handed axes existed for a long time, but double bladed don't seem to have been used much beyond antiquity. Mattocks were more like pickaxes though. Like this:

[Br3admax]

I think it's Bethany, not totally sure though.

It doesn't look anything like Bethany. Not even the eye color. 

[Jaison1986]

Who's the last one?

 

It's custom F!Hawke.

 

As for the topic, I think I will stay classic and have Cassandra use sword and shield. Blackwall will use two handed swords and Iron Bull will use either warhammers or battle axes.

[Giant ambush beetle]

So much talk about medieval weapons, Cassandra surely must be proud of her fans.   

[Basement Cat]

So much talk about medieval weapons, Cassandra surely must be proud of her fans.   

She does like to talk shop.

[HiroVoid]

Dual wield swords.