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[raging_monkey]

I think we all could agree to that

[Rel Fexive]

I hope it's not a crisis of faith in the way Evangeline went through. I kind of disliked the way she ended up. Pretty much a sellout to her oaths.

eva was a a extreme look at doing what was right and i liked how her syory went, but thats my opinion and all i will say

Crisis of faith can often times empower ones beliefs. Doubt can serve the faithful. I just hope it takes us to a new place in the series

 

I liked how Evangeline went too.  Far too many Templars have forgotten their duty to protect both mages and regular folk, one from the other.  They've become too turned around to guarding, watching and punishing instead.  Paranoia and cruelty.  They should work with the mages more than against them, I think, and they've lost their original purpose.  The whole Circle thing seems to have been twisted away from what it could've been.  This might not be the place to go into this too much though; it tends to get acrimonious very quickly.

[raging_monkey]

I liked how Evangeline went too.  Far too many Templars have forgotten their duty to protect both mages and regular folk, one from the other.  They've become too turned around to guarding, watching and punishing instead.  Paranoia and cruelty.  They should work with the mages more than against them, I think, and they've lost their original purpose.  The whole Circle thing seems to have been twisted away from what it could've been.  This might not be the place to go into this too much though; it tends to get acrimonious very quickly.

yes they do my friend yes they do*cynical chuckle*
But enough of such dour talk post some humourous banter

[Br3admax]

Yeah. Paladins don't generally care about "countries" in that sense. It's about serving greater good or God (or Gods), defending the weak, offering mercy on the battlefield instead of wanton slaughter, etc.. Henry is a nationalistic hero, and cool in one light. Joan is a badass saint whose legacy goes beyond nationalistic concerns.

"God" didn't make Joan a saint. And paladins aren't "holy warriors" either. Fantasy got it all twisted. Joan of Arc is a paladin, sure. The rest of France? No. Henry is also a paladin. It has nothing to do with that. It's all about honor, and France didn't honor anything except itself. 

[raging_monkey]

Umm. This is the Cass thread. Dour is what it should be about.

ment sour just caught it lol

[Rel Fexive]

Speaking of which, that's another thing I disliked about Evangeline's story. How she was suckered in by Rhys and his humorous/Alistair like schtick. She should've been more dour, in fact.

 

Why did she need to be more dour/sour, exactly?  Must all Templars be frowning and untrusting?

[raging_monkey]

Speaking of which, that's another thing I disliked about Evangeline's story. How she was suckered in by Rhys and his humorous/Alistair like schtick. She should've been more dour, in fact.

idk ive dated some pretty dour people, and my stchik has changed opinions.

[Br3admax]

France, in that moment, honored a sense of freedom. England honored conquest.

He was of royal blood. The king's grandson. France tried to muscle in on England and lost. How is it worse when England comes back and does the same?

 

 

The tables turn at different times, so I'm only talking about this period. Everyone can foster the same feelings in any given moment.

Nah. France lost literally every major battle except the very last. But that matters little to being a paladin, so whatever. 

[Rel Fexive]

He was of royal blood. The king's grandson. France tried to muscle in on England and lost. How is it worse when England comes back and does the same?

 

At the time much of England and much of France was ruled by the same royal family, though, was it not?  Lancaster being an offshoot of the Plantagenets and all that?

[raging_monkey]

All this talk of palidans and history makes me hope we have a chance to have cass gain power in neverra and be a romantic consort...

[Basement Cat]

Whoah, I didn't mean to derail the thread so badly!

 

Back on topic: In previous DA games the characters would sometimes have a boast or victory cry after a battle where they didn't take much damage if any. What do you think Cassandra would say in such circumstances?

[Br3admax]

It does matter little. I'm talking about ideals, and you keep talking about nationalism and royal blood. You're hanging on politics. I find it irrelevant. I'm focused on religion and behavior on the battlefield.

Being a paladin has nothing to do with religion, and Henry is pretty valorous. 

 

All this talk of palidans and history makes me hope we have a chance to have cass gain power in neverra and be a romantic consort...

She has no pull to begin with. I don't see why we should would ever gain any. 

[Black Jimmy]

At the time much of England and much of France was ruled by the same royal family, though, was it not?  Lancaster being an offshoot of the Plantagenets and all that?

Yeah, the 100 year War was pretty much one hufe family squabble that got out of hand

[The Elder King]

All this talk of palidans and history makes me hope we have a chance to have cass gain power in neverra and be a romantic consort...

We almost surely won't.

[Br3admax]

At the time much of England and much of France was ruled by the same royal family, though, was it not?  Lancaster being an offshoot of the Plantagenets and all that?

Yeah, this is when the two separate and become two distinct cultures. And that's why today France has an entire government agency designed around making everything French. 

[Br3admax]

It's a huge part to their mentality in any fantasy setting. Almost every game either has them with powers to bless weapons or radiate auras of holiness (like WoW, for example). 

Joan of Arc isn't fantasy, though. She just existed in her own. That aside, you're right, but all fantasy isn't always strict on paladins. Some are more loyal to the literal kind. Cassandra would be a paladin even without the Chantry. With it, is just bonus. Champions aren't really paladins per se. They seem more like tactical leaders to me than anything. 

[raging_monkey]

Whoah, I didn't mean to derail the thread so badly!

Back on topic: In previous DA games the characters would sometimes have a boast or victory cry after a battle where they didn't take much damage if any. What do you think Cassandra would say in such circumstances?

*Taken minor damage*
"This is annoying"

*Taken heavy damge*
"This is bull****"

*Inq is low on health and romanced*
"If you die on me i swear i will kill you"