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[Hor'Gian Vas Paris]

Indeed.

[Former_Fiend]

There is a few things in the anime and the lore that make me believe that the Pentaghasts never stopped hunting dragons despite everyone thinking they were extinct.

 

Such as?

[Uccio]

Maybe she can kill a dragon but without a jump of seven killometres or something like that. I mean japanime are often exagerated but this movie is canon and we could imagine that she did it with less..spectacular actions ?
 
 
Anyway, I like her but I'm not fond of "power graduation", plus if it concern someone without magical powers, a normal person with only high skills with a weapon.

Anime is not canon.

[AresKeith]

Anime is not canon.

Except the movie is canon

[Uccio]

No it is not.

[MisterJB]

Yes, it is. It's mentioned in "The World of Thedas". Therefore, it's canon.

[Dr. Doctor]

I just go with Dawn of the Seeker being the over the top Varric retelling of Cassandra's origin story. That explains why she one shots a dragon, fights ogress and golems that pop out of nowhere, and other assorted craziness.

[Wolfen09]

add in a few griffons for balance?

[Ihatebadgames]

Well the ogres and golems she fights are under the control of some really dumb short bus riding blood mages, so they are probably easier to kill then the ones in the game. I had not watched anime in over twenty years and thought the movie was ok.

[Wissenschaft]

Could we get back on topic of what type of rommance people expect from Cassandra. I'm just excited about finally having a Female Warrior LI. It leaves open the possibility if your a rogue or Mage that Cassandra will be much stronger psychically compare to you. Which could be interesting. The reverse of gender stereotypes.

[Milan92]

I just go with Dawn of the Seeker being the over the top Varric retelling of Cassandra's origin story. That explains why she one shots a dragon, fights ogress and golems that pop out of nowhere, and other assorted craziness.

 

Its the best way to look at it yeah.

[Milan92]

Could we get back on topic of what type of rommance people expect from Cassandra. I'm just excited about finally having a Female Warrior LI.

 

I actually think her romance won't be the cliched melting ice queen story - atleast I hope it won't - but more her beign a passionate romanticus at heart who will feel flattered at first and then play along with it. 

 

And then when they are about to kiss - she will giggle and say: "Now is not the time."

[Former_Fiend]

Could we get back on topic of what type of rommance people expect from Cassandra. I'm just excited about finally having a Female Warrior LI. It leaves open the possibility if your a rogue or Mage that Cassandra will be much stronger psychically compare to you. Which could be interesting. The reverse of gender stereotypes.

 

If you wanna get technical, the "topic" of this thread is just Cassandra. Any and everything about her, from romance to why Dawn of the Seeker doesn't make any damn sense.

[Xilizhra]

I actually think her romance won't be the cliched melting ice queen story - atleast I hope it won't - but more her beign a passionate romanticus at heart who will feel flattered at first and then play along with it. 

 

And then when they are about to kiss - she will giggle and say: "Now is not the time."

So, wait; would they kiss anyway or not?

[Mistic]

I just go with Dawn of the Seeker being the over the top Varric retelling of Cassandra's origin story. That explains why she one shots a dragon, fights ogress and golems that pop out of nowhere, and other assorted craziness.

 

Yeah, I suppose that's the most sensible approach.

 

Varric: "And that's how Seeker got that mysterious book from the Divine!"

Cassandra: "Bullshit!"

[Milan92]

So, wait; would they kiss anyway or not?

 

Nope, you have to wait till the next conversation is unlocked

[azarhal]

Such as?

 

The date for the dragon extinction is 6:15 (World of Thedas) and the first spotting since then was in 8:99. Then you read the dragon's blood codex entry and World of Thedas and you get puzzled.

 

The author, Ferdinand Pentaghast, is currently alive (it's the Nevarran King brother) and very old. He is called a famous dragon hunter in World of Thedas (and said to be the author of the book). The guy talks about bleeding live dragons, using dragon's blood as a culinary ingredients and his alive great-grand-father at the time he wrote the book. There is no way his great-grand-father is still alive now with the Nevarran King being considered too old to rule (and Ferdinand too). This mean the book was written a few decade ago, well before 8:99, but the book suggest that Ferdinand have first hand knowledge of bleeding live dragons.

 

Something doesn't work here, if he shouldn't have seen a single dragon alive before 8:99, how does he know about the fiery essence thing? Also, the Pentaghasts still see dragon hunting highly (Ferdinand being a famous dragon hunter, Cassandra's comment about her brother in DotS), while the rest of Thedas sort of see it as a joke, because dragon are supposed to be extinct (except that the Silent Grove told us the truth...)

 

Although, it could just be BioWare not realizing how timeline works...

 

I actually think her romance won't be the cliched melting ice queen story - atleast I hope it won't - but more her beign a passionate romanticus at heart who will feel flattered at first and then play along with it. 

 

And then when they are about to kiss - she will giggle and say: "Now is not the time."

 

I'm not sure how we can get a defrosting the ice queen trope, when Cassandra sort of isn't hidding being a passionate romanticus despite all the crusty outside.

 

And "Now is not the time" needs to be in, just because it fit her so well. All duty, fun is for later...if we have the time.

[Mistic]

The date for the dragon extinction is 6:15 (World of Thedas) and the first spotting since then was in 8:99. Then you read the dragon's blood codex entry and World of Thedas and you get puzzled.

 

The author, Ferdinand Pentaghast, is currently alive (it's the Nevarran King brother) and very old. He is called a famous dragon hunter in World of Thedas (and said to be the author of the book). The guy talks about bleeding live dragons, using dragon's blood as a culinary ingredients and his alive great-grand-father at the time he wrote the book. There is no way his great-grand-father is still alive now with the Nevarran King being considered too old to rule (and Ferdinand too). This mean the book was written a few decade ago, well before 8:99, but the book suggest that Ferdinand have first hand knowledge of bleeding live dragons.

 

Something doesn't work here, if he shouldn't have seen a single dragon alive before 8:99, how does he know about the fiery essence thing? Also, the Pentaghasts still see dragon hunting highly (Ferdinand being a famous dragon hunter, Cassandra's comment about her brother in DotS), while the rest of Thedas sort of see it as a joke, because dragon are supposed to be extinct (except that the Silent Grove told us the truth...)

 

Although, it could just be BioWare not realizing how timeline works...

 

The doylist explanation is that Bioware didn't take the dates into account, indeed. However, it wouldn't be so far-fetched to find a watsonian explanation.

 

First, we don't know when the book was written. The codex entry was found in DA2 in the third act, wasn't it? That means 38 years for Ferdinand to start killing the returned dragons and write a book about it. Even if he's old, that's enough time.

 

But it's true that there are other mentions of dragon hunters before that date. However, what does WoT exaclty say about it? That dragons were hunted to extinction? That all people thought they had been hunted to extinction (including the Nevarran hunters)? That most people (not the Nevarran hunters) thought they had been hunted to extinction? Or maybe they didn't talk about total extinction, but "almost extincted" or "practically extincted". The differences are subtle, but may provide a way for the hunters to keep working, even if rarely.

[Uccio]

I wonder why all the supposedly strong and independent women in DA are either bold/have buzz cut or short hair. Too feminie for Bio to have long hair?

[Xilizhra]

I wonder why all the supposedly strong and independent women in DA are either bold/have buzz cut or short hair. Too feminie for Bio to have long hair?

Probably a modeling issue. Long hair is very difficult to make move properly.

[Hellion Rex]

I wonder why all the supposedly strong and independent women in DA are either bold/have buzz cut or short hair. Too feminie for Bio to have long hair?

Aveline has longer hair.

[Wissenschaft]

If you wanna get technical, the "topic" of this thread is just Cassandra. Any and everything about her, from romance to why Dawn of the Seeker doesn't make any damn sense.

 

Shhh, you and your reason. Romance chat time!

 

I do wonder how Cassandra will be portrayed because the movie shows she fights with a chip on her shoulder. I wonder if we'll see her get really pissed off. Cassandra smash gate and puny red templars.

 

I'm guessing I'm asking if we'll be able to make hulk comparisons. lol

[Wolfen09]

the warden and hawke would have long hair....  not to mention a lot of npcs have long hair....  for companions, isabella had longish hair, covered by a bandanna, but there is long hair.... you just have to look for it

[azarhal]

The doylist explanation is that Bioware didn't take the dates into account, indeed. However, it wouldn't be so far-fetched to find a watsonian explanation.

 

First, we don't know when the book was written. The codex entry was found in DA2 in the third act, wasn't it? That means 38 years for Ferdinand to start killing the returned dragons and write a book about it. Even if he's old, that's enough time.

 

But it's true that there are other mentions of dragon hunters before that date. However, what does WoT exaclty say about it? That dragons were hunted to extinction? That all people thought they had been hunted to extinction (including the Nevarran hunters)? That most people (not the Nevarran hunters) thought they had been hunted to extinction? Or maybe they didn't talk about total extinction, but "almost extincted" or "practically extincted". The differences are subtle, but may provide a way for the hunters to keep working, even if rarely.

 

You actually find the book in DAO inside Haven's temple ruins, it's one of Wynne's gift. The codex is just in DA2 though. Also, Ferdinand's great-grand-father is surely not alive if Markus and him are considered too old to rule in 9:40. The first Nevarran kind was 60 when he took the throne and ruled for 67 years (yep, he died at 127 years old). In DA2, you meet people who still believe dragons are extinct in the Bone Pit quest and that despite the age being called the Dragon Age because one was spotted in 8:99...

 

We do not have anything on the Nevarran hunters point of view. The dragon's blood codex entry is the only thing written by one of them we have. Everything else is from an outside source.

[shinobi602]

I'm not sure how we can get a defrosting the ice queen trope, when Cassandra sort of isn't hidding being a passionate romanticus despite all the crusty outside.

 

And "Now is not the time" needs to be in, just because it fit her so well. All duty, fun is for later...if we have the time.

Well, presumably the "later" would be during downtime, so there wouldn't be a need for "now isn't the time". That'd be a pretty lame romance if everything is duty and only fun "if there's time", what's the point then lol?