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#11701
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Considering her taste Poison Ivy would be more suitable.


But Harley loves Mr.J!

:c

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But Harley loves Mr.J!

:c

She loves Posoin Ivy too...


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#11703
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She loves Posoin Ivy too...

Didn't she also have a thing for Floyd Lawton aka Deadshot 



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Didn't she also have a thing for Slade Wilson/Deathstroke?


You're thinking of Floyd Lawton aka Deadshot

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You're thinking of Floyd Lawton aka Deadshot

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She loves Posoin Ivy too...


Uh...when Ivy crashed the Jokers wedding and attempted to kill him. Harley said they were no longer friends and that she would kill her if she ever saw her again.

The whole Harley x Ivy thing is fanfiction.
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Uh...when Ivy crashed the Jokers wedding and attempted to kill him. Harley said they were no longer friends and that she would kill her if she ever saw her again.

The whole Harley x Ivy thing is fanfiction.

the nature of comics mean that in three months this will have been retconned away anyways so it doesn't bother me....

 

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Do mages have to ingest it too(ignoring lyrium potions)? I remember reading that they just have to use it for extra powerful spells, but it never said whether they had to injest or if they could just have a pile next to them. 

 

 

Well according to Gaider, in DA Origins, both Templars and Mages were originally going to suffer from Lyrium withdrawal, mages specifically from Lyrium potions they consume during the game. They also use a lyrium potion during the Harrowing iirc.

 

So yeah, all those Lyrium potions your mages were drinking? Totally means they were drug addicts as well, as least as much as Alistair was.



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Mages don't have to ingest lyrium, and they don't to enter the Fade either. Mages can just draw the power out of it, unlike a very mundane Templar. The reasons potions have to be ingested is because your bolstering your own mana reserves, not just using the power immediately. 



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The templar order isn't the only means seekers are recruited, it's just where the seekers get most of their recruites. We don't know if Cassandra was actually a templar. So I doubt she's addicted to lyrium.

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How many scenes was there of Cassandra in DA2? Better yet, is there anywhere I can watch them all?



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The templar order isn't the only means seekers are recruited, it's just where the seekers get most of their recruites. We don't know if Cassandra was actually a templar. So I doubt she's addicted to lyrium.


Again, it depends on her specialization. If she has the templar spec/seeker with templar abilities, it means she uses lyrium.
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Honestly I doubt the Lyrium aspect will come up. She is a Seeker, not a Templar and so from a vocation perspective, its not an issue. If she has Templar spec as is widely suspected, its a gameplay choice and much like the pc who becomes a Templar, no Lyrium ingestion is required fir the game mechanics to fire.

Gameplay 》Lore. You can't ask Cass to confront her Lyrium addiction as a Templar and ignore the fact that as a player you don't.
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Honestly I doubt the Lyrium aspect will come up. She is a Seeker, not a Templar and so from a vocation perspective, its not an issue. If she has Templar spec as is widely suspected, its a gameplay choice and much like the pc who becomes a Templar, no Lyrium ingestion is required fir the game mechanics to fire.
Gameplay 》Lore. You can't ask Cass to confront her Lyrium addiction as a Templar and ignore the fact that as a player you don't.

That's Not necessarily True. They said they'll make the specs more relevant and come up in the story, so it's possible we'll see out characer starting using lyrium, as well as Cass mentioning she use lyrium.
Also, lore>gameplay for me.
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Maybe her and Cullen can become lyrium buddies.


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Lyrium is necessary, but absolute could be a little extreme. I wouldn't be surprised if some new layer of Templar/Seeker lore is added, or elaborated on, rather, which renders lyrium addiction and the subsequent negative effects redundant. As we see the Templars now was initially a retcon, no? No reason to think there isn’t still more we don’t know.

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I know that I'm not gonna give my Warrior the Templar spec :P 

 

I'll probably go with Reaver.


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Lyrium is necessary, but absolute could be a little extreme. I wouldn't be surprised if some new layer of Templar/Seeker lore is added, or elaborated on, rather, which renders lyrium addiction and the subsequent negative effects redundant. As we see the Templars now was initially a retcon, no? No reason to think there isn’t still more we don’t know.

Not exactly. Their first intention was to to make lyrium necessary. I don't recall if They said what happened exactly that lead to the Alistair dialogue.
Also, after DA2 Gaider said in an interview that they'd like to implement lyrium assumption in relation of the templar spec. While I doubt It'll happen, it's an indication of their intention of making lyrium necessary for templars (otherwise They woudn't have bothered in making Alistair needing lyrium again).

Maybe her and Cullen can become lyrium buddies.

I think the might be buddies/friends regardless of this.

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I think the might be buddies/friends regardless of this.

Tbh, I never really understood this. I could easily see Cass not liking Cullan/angry with him, because surely Cullan is as much to blame for the Templar/Mage war as Hawke is. Cullan could of stept up and stopped Meredith at any time, but because he is either lazy, a coward or really hates mages he didn't.
Ah DA2, the game were no one is truly the villain but there is plenty of blame to go round.

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Tbh, I never really understood this. I could easily see Cass not liking Cullan/angry with him, because surely Cullan is as much to blame for the Templar/Mage war as Hawke is. Cullan could of stept up and stopped Meredith at any time, but because he is either lazy, a coward or really hates mages he didn't.
Ah DA2, the game were no one is truly the villain but there is plenty of blame to go round.

She's the one who recruits him in the inquisition, because of his role in restoring order in Kirkwall after the events of DA2. And this happens after Varric told Cassandra the whole story, so I doubt she dislikes/hates him.
Regardless of why he didn't try to stop Meredith (I think he might recognize his errors in DAI, Based on Gaider's response about a fanmade dialogue), how could he stop her? Up Until the end of Act 3 the majority of templars was loyal to Meredith. He didn't have the power to stop her.

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She's the one who recruits him in the inquisition, because of his role in restoring order in Kirkwall after the events of DA2. And this happens after Varric told Cassandra the whole story, so I doubt she dislikes/hates him.
Regardless of why he didn't try to stop Meredith (I think he might recognize his errors in DAI, Based on Gaider's response about a fanmade dialogue), how could he stop her? Up Until the end of Act 3 the majority of templars was loyal to Meredith. He didn't have the power to stop her.

This is all true. Though from Cass's reaction to Varric at the very start of DA2 it would not be hard to assume there is a version of the story out there were its all Hawkes fault for failing to stop Anders. But as we all know, how could have Hawke stopped him, it was out of her hands. So it equally likely that Cullan will be given some of the blame too. I do hope that he does become somewhat of a likeable character in DA:I. But, recruiting because you need boots on the ground, and bringing in your mate because he needs a job are two different things. And something tells me Cass brought him in because more of the former rather than the latter.

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This is all true. Though from Cass's reaction to Varric at the very start of DA2 it would not be hard to assume there is a version of the story out there were its all Hawkes fault for failing to stop Anders. But as we all know, how could have Hawke stopped him, it was out of her hands. So it equally likely that Cullan will be given some of the blame too. I do hope that he does become somewhat of a likeable character in DA:I. But, recruiting because you need boots on the ground, and bringing in your mate because he needs a job are two different things. And something tells me Cass brought him in because more of the former rather than the latter.


While there might be different stories on Hawke, the one Cassandra refers to in the game was the one that has Hawke coming in Kirkwall with all his companions (except Varric), with the purpose of causing problems with the Chantry, as well as being more involved in Anders' actions. So when she was blaming Hawke, She did with this story in mind.
I didn't mean that Cassandra brings Cullen because he's her friend (They already stated it in Cullen's official page). I meant that they'll become friends during DAI.
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Why are we discussing lyrium?



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Why are we discussing lyrium?

People think Cassandra has the Templar specialization and therefore is addicted to Lyrium.



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People think Cassandra has the Templar specialization and therefore is addicted to Lyrium.

Oh, well that's ridiculous. She probably does but doesn't mean she is addicted to lyrium.