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[The Elder King]

Whatever. You are all right. Varric is a paragon of virtue. I should be flogged for daring to smear his good name.

I did say in the other thread that he's a liar and not perfect. He does have flaws. I just don't know if him being bitter to Bull might be one, since I don't know Why he's bitter to him. You might be right, but I want to play the game first.

[TTTX]

Yeah, ''Deny or Die'' doesn't really seem like a friendly motto.

Or turned into a slave.

 

 

The Qun as a whole demanded the actions in Kirkwall. Do I blame him? No. Is he justified? Yes. It's all about survival. 

No it was just the Arishock who lost his temper after 4 years and if he wasn't killed in DA2 I'm sure the Qunari would punish him for doing something that wasn't his duty at the time.

 

Whatever. You are all right. Varric is a paragon of virtue. I should be flogged for daring to smear his good name. 

No, is he is not.

 

 

To get this back on Cassandra since it is her thread, "Bulls***!" 

Cassandra and Varric will be friends or at least on good terms by the time DA:I finishes, after all Isabela and Aveline were friends sort of by the time DA2 was over with

[AresKeith]

To get this back on Cassandra since it is her thread, "Bulls***!" 

 

Not really, no one is claiming him to be perfect

[Shadow Fox]

 

From one of the uploaded playthrough vids:

 

http://img206.imagev...v1_122_83lo.JPG

 

 

 

 

Just so you know I got an ad for a porn site when I clicked on that.

[Zakhar]

No it was just the Arishock who lost his temper after 4 years and if he wasn't killed in DA2 I'm sure the Qunari would punish him for doing something that wasn't his duty at the time.

Wasn't the Arishok looking for that special book of the quns?

Granted, he probably didn't actually know it wad there in Kirkwall until later but still. If the other leaders of the Qun questioned his actionsn he'd offer the book as justification

And no one would question him, he did as the Qun demands then. Besides with the pseudo-hivemind of the Qun, the individual doesn't matter.

[Br3admax]

No it was just the Arishock who lost his temper after 4 years and if he wasn't killed in DA2 I'm sure the Qunari would punish him for doing something that wasn't his duty at the time.

How do you know? The Qun demanded he had to get the Tome back by any means possible and that the Qun had to protect itself. The Arishok acted in line with the Qun from what we know of it. 

[Giant ambush beetle]

Just so you know I got an ad for a porn site when I clicked on that.

 

So? You gonna call the ambulance now? 

 

 

[Zakhar]

So? You gonna call the ambulance now?

I got an ad for wind energy. You're giving mixed signals.

[Giant ambush beetle]

I got an ad for wind energy. You're giving mixed signals.

 

I think my suggestion works for most Internet ads. 

[Who Knows]

Just so you know I got an ad for a porn site when I clicked on that.

Always good to be suspicious on the internet.

[Shadow Fox]

So? You gonna call the ambulance now? 

 

 

If my computer gets a virus I'm blaming you smartass.

[Giant ambush beetle]

If my computer gets a virus I'm blaming you smartass.

 

Don't, I told you to call the ambulance, a viral infection is nothing to sneeze at!

[WildOrchid]

If my computer gets a virus I'm blaming you smartass.

 

It won't get a virus if you don't click on it.

 

 

 

 

...or you did? ;P

[TTTX]

Wasn't the Arishok looking for that special book of the quns?

Granted, he probably didn't actually know it wad there in Kirkwall until later but still. If the other leaders of the Qun questioned his actionsn he'd offer the book as justification

And no one would question him, he did as the Qun demands then. Besides with the pseudo-hivemind of the Qun, the individual doesn't matter.

When he decided to attack Kirkwall had nothing to do with the book and it wasn't a demand of the Qun, he says so himself.

 

 

How do you know? The Qun demanded he had to get the Tome back by any means possible and that the Qun had to protect itself. The Arishok acted in line with the Qun from what we know of it. 

He says so himself it's not a demand of the Qun, before yelling angrily and I quote "And you should all be grateful."

 

He was angry and the end of his rope by the time act 2 starts to end, hell even when he knows the book is no longer in the city (which he probably knows regardless if recruited Isabela or try to get the tome, I'm pretty sure that still happens regardless of Hawke's involvement) he still attacks Kirkwall and it's not his role is not to educate or enlighten people about the Qun, he can only conquer them or take them in, make them see the light falls under on of the other leaders.

[Br3admax]

He says so himself it's not a demand of the Qun, before yelling angrily and I quote "And you should all be grateful."

You didn't address anything I brought up, and actually brought up a completely different situation. 

[BellPeppers&Beef023]

Dat Accent tho...

 

Music to my ears.

[TTTX]

You didn't address anything I brought up, and actually brought up a completely different situation. 

Sorry forgot to write the point of all that my fault.

 

He lost his temper and attack Kirkwall even after the book have left the city (and he knows it's wasn't in Kirkwall), instead of going after the Book which was the demand, he decided to forcefully try and take over Kirkwall, not because it was demand, but because he was angry at them for various of reasons. It might been within his rights to do so, but he still forgot about the book and took over a city instead, which is a violation in the Qun.

 

At the very least he would be punished for it in some way.

[MattH]

I'm loving the banter between Varric and Cass.

[Br3admax]

Yeah, I was thinking the same. Sure he had personal investment, but the Qun comes before all that. 

[TTTX]

He had no where to go. The Tome could have been anywhere by the time Hawke confronted the Arishok. He was conquering Kirkwall to serve a platform for his continued search. Fixing Kirkwall's corruption in the process would be a bonus.

That wasn't what he said, he makes it quite clear he is conquering them to submit them to the Qun, he doesn't mentioned this.

[TTTX]

Yeah, I was thinking the same. Sure he had personal investment, but the Qun comes before all that. 

Everyone has a breaking point, even Qunari.

[Zakhar]

That wasn't what he said, he makes it quite clear he is conquering them to submit them to the Qun, he doesn't mentioned this.

And to be fair, it kinda is his job to spread the Qun.

As leader of the Antaam he spreads the Qun with conquering so most likely what the other members of the Triumvirate would of done is scold him for nearly shattering the cease fire... then use Kirkwall as a post to slowly convert the Free Marches.

[TTTX]

And to be fair, it kinda is his job to spread the Qun.

As leader of the Antaam he spreads the Qun with conquering so most likely what the other members of the Triumvirate would of done is scold him for nearly shattering the cease fire... then use Kirkwall as a post to slowly convert the Free Marches.

I'm pretty sure the Chantry and rest of the Free Marches cities wouldn't let the Qunari have Kirkwall and it could have sparked war with Thedas. I'm not so sure the Qunari is ready for full on assault with Thedas again.

 

Also we are getting off topic, so Cassandra quite the Woman right?

[Zakhar]

I'm pretty sure the Chantry and rest of the Free Marches cities wouldn't let the Qunari have Kirkwall and it could have sparked war with Thedas. I'm not so sure the Qunari is ready for full on assault with Thedas again.

Also we are getting off topic, so Cassandra quite the Woman right?

And Thedas isn't exactly ready for an Exalted March with the whole Orlesian Civil War and Mage uprisimg but yes, you're right.

Cassandra wrestles dragons in her spare time.