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[Sifr]

Look at Cameron! He sees and knows...!

 

Someone needs to edit that picture so it includes the words "Soon!"

 

[Wolfen09]

Indoctrinate? lol what game are you talking about? It's just a religion. If you're already a Chantry believer, then that's all there is to it, dogma wise. As for joining a military order, that has nothing to do with indoctrination. Just discipline and commitment. 

 

You don't have to be chaste all of your life either. They're not nuns and monks. Think Aveline and Wesley, for example. Or the dozens of Templars who visit whorehouses.

 

edit: Maybe you're confusing them with Catholic Knights Templar? They were, in fact, warrior monks.

 

dont you know anything, anyone who joins any sort of organization is indoctrinated....  ive been indoctrinated in the alcoholics anonymous for years....  we all drink anonymously... thats what that club is for right....  anybody wanna join my other club... its called damm, drunks against madd mothers

[HK-90210]

No way the HI is anywhere near 30 or 40 and not already a member of the Chantry. 

 

I don't know, I could find a way to justify it. I mean, look at Sebastian in DAII. He was with the Kirkwall Chantry for 7 years having forsworn his initial vows.

 

Cassandra: You say you're the youngest of your family. But how old are you, Inquisitor?

Inquisitor: (Some number more than 25)

Cassandra: And yet you served no offical role in the conference? You seem so skilled. If you don't mind me asking, what position did you do for the Chantry?

RogueQuisitor: I guess you could call me a...reaquisitions specialist. You'd be surprised how often people steal from the Chantry, thinking they can get away with it. They often underestimate how ruthless revered mothers can be.

WarriorQuisitor: Considering that I had a sibling in the Circle, the Templars refused to accept me. So I was a knight who was pledged to serve the Chantry. I acted as bodyguard to the Chanty's brothers and sisters as they went about their duties.

[Wolfen09]

I don't know, I could find a way to justify it. I mean, look at Sebastian in DAII. He was with the Kirkwall Chantry for 7 years having forsworn his initial vows.

 

Cassandra: You say you're the youngest of your family. But how old are you, Inquisitor?

Inquisitor: (Some number more than 25)

Cassandra: And yet you served no offical role in the conference? You seem so skilled. If you don't mind me asking, what position did you do for the Chantry?

RogueQuisitor: I guess you could call me a...reaquisitions specialist. You'd be surprised how often people steal from the Chantry, thinking they can get away with it. They often underestimate how ruthless revered mothers can be.

WarriorQuisitor: Considering that I had a sibling in the Circle, the Templars refused to accept me. So I was a knight who was pledged to serve the Chantry. I acted as bodyguard to the Chanty's brothers and sisters as they went about their duties.

 

Cassandra: and yet you served no official role in the conference?  you seem so skilled.  If you dont mind me asking, what did you do before all this?

 

Elfquisitor:  Frolicked in the forest like all elves do... why what did you think we did?

[KoorahUK]

Sebastian was committed as a brother of the chantry.. totally different. He is in fact meant to be chaste and monk-ish. Templar isn't exactly a religious vocation. Or at best, it's like a civil and military element of the religion, mostly concerned with the Circles. You get paid, you can get married (Wesley), have kids (Thrask), you can sit around in bars getting drunk, you can visit prostitutes, etc.. 

 

I mean, if you want. I'm sure a lot of them act like monks.

This is the entry from the wiki on HI Origin.

Human: A member of the noble Trevelyan family from Ostwick in the Free Marches. The Trevelyan family has close ties with the Templar Order and warrior and rogue Inquisitors were raised to be devout and loyal Andrastians (though they do not necessarily have to relish this role). They are sent to the Chantry conclave to aid their family in the proceedings. Human mages lived a cloistered, protected life in the Ostwick Circle before the Templars attempted to kill him or her, forcing them to flee and join the mage delegation at the Chantry conclave. Human Inquisitors receive one extra ability point upon character creation.

 

Doesn't say anything about being a member of the Chantry, as a brother or a Templar, just that the family has close ties to the Order. Wouldn't be the first noble family that preached about the importance of the Order but didn't want to send their own children into it.

Thats certainly how I'm playing my Inquisitor.
 

[Milan92]

I just love how much the human inquisitor and Cassandra have in common.

[Wolfen09]

I just love how much the human inquisitor and Cassandra have in common.

 

yep, love of bibliocide

[Basement Cat]

I just love how much the human inquisitor and Cassandra have in common.

That's one of the reasons I'm so intrigued by the human background this time around, especially rogue or warrior.

I wonder if we are at the peace conference with members of our family? Perhaps even siblings? That would make for interesting conversation with Cassandra...

 

Being the youngest child would also make for good conversation with Josephine who is the eldest in her family...

[Basement Cat]

If my family ends up killed, I doubt my character is going to chat about it. /emo 

I wasn't thinking about 'chatting' per say...

 

Cassandra: It is an extraordinary stroke of luck that you survived the explosion

 

Trevelyan: Luck? I lost my brother in that explosion you fool! That's not my idea of luck! Do you have any idea what that feels like?

 

Cassandra: ...

 

(I can't help it, I love me some emotional torment)

[Giant ambush beetle]

If people don't like her jaw and scars, thats fantastic. Less competition for me because

Well, there is at least one tough competitor left, and thats me, I cannot express in words how happy I am with her final design. No mods required.  

[Br3admax]

Don't understand your point. You don't have to be in the Chantry to be part of a strongly pro-Chantry family, and you don't have to be in the priesthood to be devout.

Because it's stated they want you to be a part of the Chantry anyway? That's kind of the backstory of the character. 

 

Indoctrinate? lol what game are you talking about? It's just a religion. If you're already a Chantry believer, then that's all there is to it, dogma wise. As for joining a military order, that has nothing to do with indoctrination. Just discipline and commitment. 

 

You don't have to be chaste all of your life either. They're not nuns and monks. Think Aveline and Wesley, for example. Or the dozens of Templars who visit whorehouses.

 

edit: Maybe you're confusing them with Catholic Knights Templar? They were, in fact, warrior monks.

Look as someone who thinks organized religion is all fine and dandy, let's not pretend it's not a form of indoctrination to force someone into service to any one god or the other. It was a common practice in the middle ages. Also, while it's a Templar family, nothing says that they were going to make you a Templar per se. 

[KoorahUK]

Because it's stated they want you to be a part of the Chantry anyway? That's kind of the backstory of the character. 

 

Nope, it says, and i quote:

 

Human: A member of the noble Trevelyan family from Ostwick in the Free Marches. The Trevelyan family has close ties with the Templar Order and warrior and rogue Inquisitors were raised to be devout and loyal Andrastians (though they do not necessarily have to relish this role). They are sent to the Chantry conclave to aid their family in the proceedings. Human mages lived a cloistered, protected life in the Ostwick Circle before the Templars attempted to kill him or her, forcing them to flee and join the mage delegation at the Chantry conclave. Human Inquisitors receive one extra ability point upon character creation.

 

It doesn't say you join the Chantry, it says you are sent to the Chantry Conclave which is how you happened to be there when the explosion occurs. 

 

 

Look as someone who thinks organized religion is all fine and dandy, let's not pretend it's not a form of indoctrination to force someone into service to any one god or the other. It was a common practice in the middle ages. Also, while it's a Templar family, nothing says that they were going to make you a Templar per se. 

 

 

No arguments from me on that, but the back story says you were raised as a devout Andrastian. 30 may be too old for "indoctrination" to begin, (not that I agree with that statement) but thats completely irrelevant to the age of the Inquisitor. 

My HI is going to be 40 because I think Cass would want an equal rather than a kid. As someone who has been with Cougars in my youth I'm aware that these relationships are pretty hot but usually little more than infatuation.

[KoorahUK]

I don't know. After a certain age, I don't think it matters. I think it's normal if you're 30 dating a 40 year old. It's not a "young guy with a cougar" thing. Just two adults imo

Actually yes you are right. My experiences were between the ages of 18 - 22 which is quite different.

Still, my Cass is romancing a crusty and thats final! 

[Br3admax]

 

It doesn't say you join the Chantry, it says you are sent to the Chantry Conclave which is how you happened to be there when the explosion occurs. 

 

How does that change that your family wants to force you into the Chantry in some capacity? We must be reading too different quotes. 

 

No arguments from me on that, but the back story says you were raised as a devout Andrastian. 30 may be too old for "indoctrination" to begin, (not that I agree with that statement) but thats completely irrelevant to the age of the Inquisitor. 

My HI is going to be 40 because I think Cass would want an equal rather than a kid. As someone who has been with Cougars in my youth I'm aware that these relationships are pretty hot but usually little more than infatuation.

 

The age part of this has been addressed, but I doubt your family could somehow force you to the Chantry and not Force you into the Chantry long before that. That doesn't make any sense. :/

[Black Jimmy]

Actually yes you are right. My experiences were between the ages of 18 - 22 which is quite different.

Still, my Cass is romancing a crusty and thats final! 

Same. Any idea if we can have greying temples like Mr Fantastic?

[raging_monkey]

Same. Any idea if we can have greying temples like Mr Fantastic?

i hope so im 22 and i have streaks of grey. It will add so much to immersion

[KoorahUK]

Same. Any idea if we can have greying temples like Mr Fantastic?

I don't know but I hope so. It would be great if we could get some salt and pepper thing going on, rather than just all over grey.

[KoorahUK]

How does that change that your family wants to force you into the Chantry in some capacity? We must be reading too different quotes. 

 

 

The age part of this has been addressed, but I doubt your family could somehow force you to the Chantry and not Force you into the Chantry long before that. That doesn't make any sense. :/

No YOU'RE not making any sense, lol!

*shakes Br3admax*


 

This started after you said:

 

You can't indoctrinate people at 30. Though to be honest I consider them to be 28ish. Good ripe age for forcing you to be chaste for the rest of your life. 

But they are expected to be forced to anyway, probably because then if they don't they'll get cut out of the will. 30 is also pretty old to start a career in the clergy fi that's something your family forces on you. 

 

The origin states you are rasied as a devout Andrastian in a family with ties to the Templar Order. It does not say anywhere that you are "forced" into a career in the the Chantry, either as a Brother, initiate or Templar. All it says is that you are sent to the Conclave - the event in Haven that starts the story - to aid your family. We don't know in what capacity your family is involved in the Conclave or your role in it.

I'm not sure where this idea you are being forced into the Chantry comes from? Are you referring to something not in the Wiki?

[dantares83]

how old is Cassandra?

 

40? i mean i think she is around 18-20 in Dawn of the Seeker right? and it has been almost twenty years then. is she the oldest LI ever?