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When Victoria was figurehead-queen of Great Britain and Ireland, her country was one of the most powerful states in the world. One might suggest the same about Prussia-Germany under Wilhelm I, whose most famous leader was not the kaiser but rather Chancellor Otto von Bismarck.

What's the difference between a country and a military organization? Military leaders can be replaced a lot easier. 



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Yes. I wouldn't have posted what I did if I didn't want it. I'm not dumb. I know the implications. It's just roleplaying. I think it'll be fun to be the reluctant Herald.

"Lead them or Fall," well it was nice knowing you. 



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What's the difference between a country and a military organization? Military leaders can be replaced a lot easier. 

 

Err, what about paramilitary orders since the Inquisition is independent of any nation? Who exactly is going to replace the inquisitor?



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Err, what about paramilitary orders since the Inquisition is independent of any nation? Who exactly is going to replace the inquisitor?

Anyone really. Pretty much anyone there could replace you if they had magical rift powers. 



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"Lead them or Fall," well it was nice knowing you. 

 

You don't even know the actual story I have planned. I barely do.

 

If you have to know, I only planned on being reluctant and not having an immediate embrace of the religious title. 

 

I didn't expect to be judged about it. lol. 



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I dont understand why some people dont like that scar.

I like her scar.

 

I wonder if we, the Inquisitor, will learn how she got that scar.

 

Not fan of Infiltrator........ :lol:

 

vanguard and engineer forever !  :bandit:

Next to soldier, I would say engineer is my next favorite. I have the most fun playing as an Engineer



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You don't even know the actual story I have planned. I barely do.

 

If you have to know, I only planned on being reluctant and not having an immediate embrace of the religious title. 

 

I didn't expect to be judged about it. lol. 

 

Relax man, if someone says something upsetting, just ignore them. Problem solved.



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Relax man, if someone says something trollish, just ignore them. Problem solved.

 

I generally like these forums actually. I was just posting in the Lobby the other day on how cool they are compared to elsewhere.

 

So it's jarring when I see the old patterns pop up.



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Fetish? lol Seriously, f*ck you. It's just roleplaying. One character out of many. Just like I had different themes for Wardens and Hawkes. 

 

If a mod wants to ban me for the f-bomb btw, feel free. I just think this is an instrusive analysis on the privacy of my own gameplay. It deserves a f-bomb.

 

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Sore spot ? I am just pointing out the obvious. Cassandra Pentaghast is a warrior female. Warriors respect strength, duty and responsibility.

 

Cassandra is essentially an Alpha Female of sorts.

 

Being wimpy and submissive to strong Alpha warriors is a one way ticket to losing their respect, their admiration and by that extension, the possibility to love them or romance them. 



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Yep. This whole "being a submissive Inquisitor"  / "being a wimpy Inquisitor" thing is strong among Cassandra lovers.
 
I find it odd. Is this a collective fetish or something ?
 
Why can't the potential romance between Cassandra & the Inquisitor be more like...I don't know...Superman & Wonder Woman ? A romance between equals...
 
From what I have seen of Cassandra, I am of the opinion that she will prefer men who are strong and powerful on their own right, men who she can respect, not some submissive wimp....

I don't know, maybe because it can. How other people choose to roleplay seems to bother you.

And maybe reconsider what constitutes as a collection.
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Anyone really. Pretty much anyone there could replace you if they had magical rift powers. 

 

And yet they don't. So no problems. lol. Its good to be irreplaceable.


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Sore spot ? I am just pointing out the obvious. Cassandra Pentaghast is a warrior female. Warriors respect strength, duty and responsibility.

 

Cassandra is essentially an Alpha Female of sorts.

 

Being wimpy and submissive to strong Alpha warriors is a one way ticket to losing their respect, their admiration and by that extension, the possibility to love them or romance them. 

 

Who said anything about anything about wimpy?

 

If I wanted to be wimpy, I wouldn't even play the game. My character wouldn't even go outside.

 

I'm talking about the religious title. That's why you're moved up in rank. 

 

There is no sore spot. I just think you're stupid. You don't even ask me questions, but just immediately project things.



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Sore spot ? I am just pointing out the obvious. Cassandra Pentaghast is a warrior female. Warriors respect strength, duty and responsibility.

 

Cassandra is essentially an Alpha Female of sorts.

 

Being wimpy and submissive to strong Alpha warriors is a one way ticket to losing their respect, their admiration and by that extension, the possibility to love them or romance them. 

 

Unnecessary sterotype. Cass being a warrior doesn't mean she wouldn't be attracted to a less assertive man. As they say, opposites attract. Just look at Aveline, she fell for a man who didn't appears to be an Alpha male. Not that either of the men she loved were wimps but they weren't alpha male sterotypes.



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Cassandra is essentially an Alpha Female

I am ready.

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And yet they don't. So no problems. lol. Its good to be irreplaceable.

Party members take turns slapping you every time you mess up. Semi-confirmed rumor. 

 

You don't even know the actual story I have planned. I barely do.

 

If you have to know, I only planned on being reluctant and not having an immediate embrace of the religious title. 

 

I didn't expect to be judged about it. lol. 

The religious title has next to nothing with leading the Inquisition. :/



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Who said anything about anything about wimpy?

 

If I wanted to be wimpy, I wouldn't even play the game. My character wouldn't even go outside.

 

I'm talking about the religious title. That's why you're moved up in rank. 

 

There is no sore spot. I just think you're stupid. You don't even ask me questions, but just immediately project things.

 

Incorrect. Mark Darrah has stated that in the early stages in the game, you seize and control the power to become the Inquisitor. It was not handed to you. 

 

The concept arts such as the coronation of the Inquisitor and the lines Alix Wilton Regan spoke, the one being "You are insane, I would not help you", points to this fact.



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It isn't even about assertiveness. haha..

 

I wanted my character to just feel in over his head at first. I planned on him being a black sheep of his family, and not sure wtf is going on. 


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The religious title has next to nothing with leading the Inquisition. :/

 

Thart's what I've heard.



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What's the difference between a country and a military organization? Military leaders can be replaced a lot easier.


There are plenty of people who believe that a country is a military organization: that's how it started (put, crudely, by ancap "philosophers" as a protection racket writ large) and that's basically all it was up to the nineteenth century in most of the world.

And there are plenty of examples of military commanders with...mediocre reputations (deserved or undeserved) who have gone down in history as having relied on more able subordinates. The classic example is Paul von Hindenburg and Erich Ludendorff; my personal favorite is the Athenian duo of Alkibiades and Thrasyboulos.

In many of these cases, the higher commander was not merely a military technician, to be replaced by a better technician if available, but was a symbol to his men and even a political touchstone. Historians still debate Hindenburg's actual role in the partnership he had with Ludendorff, but no one disputes his importance: the man was a cultural icon even while he was still in the army, due to the victory of Tannenberg, and remained one of the most beloved people in German political life for decades. He rode his reputation into the chancellorship under the republic, after all. And few historians would dispute that Ludendorff, although a gifted staff officer, was awful at interpersonal relationships and far too high-strung to even stick with his own plans once implemented; he needed Hindenburg, at the very least, to convey calm and imperturbability, to keep him anchored in reality, and to make him more palatable to the rest of the staff. Those are functions most often associated with a "figurehead", yes? But they made the partnership work, and it's one of the most well-known and successful of its type in all of military history.

But let that go. Talking about generalized nonsense gets us nowhere: the specific example of the Inquisition is what matters, and I, for one, am not sure that the Inquisition's leader can be replaced so easily. Cassandra certainly seems to be using him/her reluctantly; if she could get away with running the show herself without an Inquisitor, I think that she might have tried. But the Inquisitor survived the Breach's opening, limited the damage, came away with a unique power without which there is little to no chance of closing the Breach, and has already become known as a symbol of hope throughout southern Thedas around which loyal forces can rally.

I mean, I'm not suggesting that the Inquisitor should be some simpering, tied-up sub for Cassandra, or that that would be plausible - #notmyfetish, among other things, but yes, I know that "simpering" and "sub" and bondage do not always go together - but "figurehead" is actually quite close to what I think the Inquisitor might very well be anyway, at least in the early going, and I think it's precisely that figurehead status that makes him/her irreplaceable.
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Incorrect. Mark Darrah has stated that in the early stages in the game, you seize and control the power to become the Inquisitor. It was not handed to you. 

 

The concept arts such as the coronation of the Inquisitor and the lines Alix Wilton Regan spoke, the one being "You are insane, I would not help you", points to this fact.

 

What are we talking about again? The inquisitor gains his fade hand in the fade. So its sort of is handed to you. Leadership of the inquisition however, is said to be earned as you play the game.
 


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Incorrect. Mark Darrah has stated that in the early stages in the game, you seize and control the power to become the Inquisitor. It was not handed to you. 

 

The concept arts such as the coronation of the Inquisitor and the lines Alix Wilton Regan spoke, the one being "You are insane, I would not help you", points to this fact.

 

I'm curious about that then. Simply siezing power seems like a pretty specific characterization, psychologically speaking.


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I mean, I'm not suggesting that the Inquisitor should be some simpering, tied-up sub for Cassandra, or that that would be plausible - #notmyfetish, among other things, but yes, I know that "simpering" and "sub" and bondage do not always go together - but "figurehead" is actually quite close to what I think the Inquisitor might very well be anyway, at least in the early going, and I think it's precisely that figurehead status that makes him/her irreplaceable.

 

Excellent point, the whole title of Herald of Andraste is clearly an attempt to make the Inquisitor a figurehead. Note, that we shall be dependent on our advisers to run the inquisitions operations. Just how much power do we really have?



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That's great and all, and I know you put a lot of effort into that, but I'll just go ahead and say countries aren't military organizations. The Inquisitor is comparable to anyone that has ever actually lived.They don't have the roles of a monarch, even if they have a throne, and they aren't in the same situations as a true military organization, But more to the point, it's 12 AM and I really didn't come into the Cassandra thread to discuss multiple essays about how a leader can be weak and somehow still be a competent leader. Even as a figurehead, they can't appear weak. Do you think George learned to talk coherently because he wanted to appear weak? He doesn't actually lead the army, but he stood confidently. He accepted his role and filled it in a time of need. That's what a real leader is. The power you have is irrelevant. 



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That's great and all, and I know you put a lot of effort into that, but I'll just go ahead and say countries aren't military organizations. The Inquisitor is comparable to anyone that has ever actually lived.They don't have the roles of a monarch, even if they have a throne, and they aren't in the same situations as a true military organization, But more to the point, it's 12 AM and I really didn't come into the Cassandra thread to discuss multiple essays about how a leader can be weak and somehow still be a comtent leader. 

 

Then why did you start the argument about how someone's RP preference would cause their Inquisition to look weak?



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That's great and all, and I know you put a lot of effort into that, but I'll just go ahead and say countries aren't military organizations. The Inquisitor is comparable to anyone that has ever actually lived.They don't have the roles of a monarch, even if they have a throne, and they aren't in the same situations as a true military organization, But more to the point, it's 12 AM and I really didn't come into the Cassandra thread to discuss multiple essays about how a leader can be weak and somehow still be a comtent leader. 

 

Then why bother responding? lol

 

Your post could have been shorten:

 

I'm too tried to read your post, sorry.