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[Br3admax]

Why isn't she in line for any thrones? I'm under the impression she is not that far down the list, and if she becomes prominent in the Inquisition, she might be a popular pick to avoid weaker rulers which might lead to civil war.

To the best of my recollection, the English throne was given and/or taken by nobility with less "right" to the throne, as a compromise candidate that would prevent bloodshed. I think it may have happened a few times, but William of Orange comes to mind.

The Pentaghast family is pretty large. As is the other half of the royal line. She's nowhere near close in line.

[The Elder King]

Why isn't she in line for any thrones? I'm under the impression she is not that far down the list, and if she becomes prominent in the Inquisition, she might be a popular pick to avoid weaker rulers which might lead to civil war.
To the best of my recollection, the English throne was given and/or taken by nobility with less "right" to the throne, as a compromise candidate that would prevent bloodshed. I think it may have happened a few times, but William of Orange comes to mind.

There's only one Direct heir, the king's brother, which don't want the throne.
Then there's countless Pentaghast and Van Markham that can claim the throne.
Also, we have no clue how popular Cassandra might be, but i suspect Nevarrans might Not like a person who worked for two decades in Orlais on the throne.

[Br3admax]

There's no happy ending, is what I'm saying, according to Gaider. That's not even a chance of one. It's like hoping for one with Anders, but with less blood involved.

[rda]

The Pentaghast family is pretty large. As is the other half of the royal line. She's nowhere near close in line.

You've totally missed my point. With Nevarra teetering in the brink of Civil War, and a bunch of rival candidate seeking power, someone famous, powerful, and above reproach might be a good compromise candidate to avoid bloodshed, especially if this person is backed by a powerful inquisition.

The fact that she isn't NEXT in line for the throne is not as important as the fact her blood gives her some claim to the throne.

If Nevarra looks like it's going to break out in Civil War, is Cass the kind of person to stand on the sidelines if she might prevent it? She probably doesn't seek personal power for herself, but if it was a choice between her being Queen or years of bloody civil war war, I don't think Cass walks away and says, "Sucks to be you!"

[rda]

There's no happy ending, is what I'm saying, according to Gaider. That's not even a chance of one. It's like hoping for one with Anders, but with less blood involved.

WTF? Did he say this directly, and in what context?

Otherwise, if you just take it at face value, it makes no sense. There's no happy endings? Then what's the point of even playing? I get plenty of crap in my real life. I don't need a bunch of endings that all lead to unhappiness and crap.

I mean, if he's saying there's no ending where unicorns fly out of your bottom, fine. Get that. But if he's saying no matter what you do, your Inquisitor's future sucks and nobody's happy, well then that's a game I don't want to play.

[PrinceLionheart]

I guess I'll have to settle for the least odorous piece of crap then. If that's possible. 

 

In any case, I'd like to fail because of my own stupidity. And not because my character got swallowed up in stupid events (like Hawke). I still have the mentality of a gamer... a part of me wants to "win". And not just be a spectator. Even if that doesn't apply as much to RPGs.

 

That was the crux of the problem with ME3 as well.

[Milan92]

There's only one Direct heir, the king's brother, which don't want the throne.
Then there's countless Pentaghast and Van Markham that can claim the throne.
Also, we have no clue how popular Cassandra might be, but i suspect Nevarrans might Not like a person who worked for two decades in Orlais on the throne.

 

Add the fact that she doesn't even want the throne.

[Milan92]

There's no happy ending, is what I'm saying, according to Gaider. That's not even a chance of one. It's like hoping for one with Anders, but with less blood involved.

 

Wait, he already said that DA:I won't have a "happy" ending?

[rda]

Add the fact that she doesn't even want the throne.

Read my previous post on the matter. If it's TLDR, suffice it to say, if by taking the throne as a compromise candidate, backed by the Inquisition, Cass feels she can prevent a civil war and bloodshed, then I think she does it.

I think she's got too much sense of duty to just be like, "Eh, let them fight it out. I don't GAS."

[Cerulione]

Add the fact that she doesn't even want the throne.

 

Quite agree. Once I can picture her being a good leader for an organization with definite goals & a good warrior, I can hardly picture her as a ruling monarch. Apparently Cass had given up all finery &  privilege to learn to be a warrior no? If that's true then her choice is clear.

 

She might want to help finding the person capable of ruling Nevarra if ever her voice might count though... But I can hardly imagine her taking the throne without being forced too much. Well, let's see how it goes, I forced Alistair to be on the throne.

[rda]

Quite agree. Once I can picture her being a good leader for an organization with definite goals & a good warrior, I can hardly picture her as a ruling monarch. Apparently Cass had given up all finery &  privilege to learn to be a warrior no? If that's true then her choice is clear.
 
She might want to help finding the person capable of ruling Nevarra if ever her voice might count though... But I can hardly imagine her taking the throne without being forced too much. Well, let's see how it goes, I forced Alistair to be on the throne.

As stated, her choice might be civil war or take the throne.

Though the idea that she could lend her voice to another candidate is an interesting one.

Obviously, we don't know anything ATM, I'm just defending why I think Cass taking the throne isn't as far fetched as some people think, despite the fact she isn't first in line or may not personally want it.

[Br3admax]

Wait, he already said that DA:I won't have a "happy" ending?

Talking about the Fenris romance. Gaider won't tell us anything until the game comes out about that. 

 

As stated, her choice might be civil war or take the throne.

Though the idea that she could lend her voice to another candidate is an interesting one.

Obviously, we don't know anything ATM, I'm just defending why I think Cass taking the throne isn't as far fetched as some people think, despite the fact she isn't first in line or may not personally want it.

I seriously don't think you understand just how large the royal families are. The fact that there are two of them and Cassandra is only a minor member of one of them should be telling enough that it's not going to happen. 

[Milan92]

Talking about the Fenris romance. Gaider won't tell us anything until the game comes out about that. 

 

Ah, right.

[rda]

Talking about the Fenris romance. Gaider won't tell us anything until the game comes out about that. 
 

I seriously don't think you understand just how large the royal families are. The fact that there are two of them and Cassandra is only a minor member of one of them should be telling enough that it's not going to happen.

And I don't think you understand my point about Cassandra's direct place in line for the throne is largely immaterial in the case of civil war. Plenty of historical examples where in troubled times the weaker direct candidate didn't get named the monarch, but rather someone more distantly related who was strong, powerful, and could unite the warring factions.

[Br3admax]

Okay, it's like saying every random Aeducan has a chance at the throne. The. House. Is. HUGE. 

[rda]

Okay, it's like saying ever random Aeducan has a chance at the throne. The. House. Is. HUGE. 

Again, history is full of people with more tenuous connections to the throne assuming power in periods of upheaval.

So, yes, I would agree that a "random" Aeducan who was, say, a Paragon of his people, and had a lot of personal power would be a candidate to take the throne in a time of upheaval.

[raging_monkey]

Okay, it's like saying every random Aeducan has a chance at the throne. The. House. Is. HUGE. 

how huge is it?

So huge half the nobles are try to bed them XD

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Cassandra being confirmed as 40 will save the world because the elder one has a thing for older woman.

 

What a twist.

 

So the boss battle is the Elder Woman (Cassandra) seducing the Elder One (whomever or whatever he might be) ?

 

Sure, why not ? 

[Br3admax]

Again, history is full of people with more tenuous connections to the throne assuming power in periods of upheaval.

So, yes, I would agree that a "random" Aeducan who was, say, a Paragon of his people, and had a lot of personal power would be a candidate to take the throne in a time of upheaval.

Cassandra has none of those things. No claim whatsoever. No backing. She's just any other Pentaghast family wise. 

[The Elder King]

Again, history is full of people with more tenuous connections to the throne assuming power in periods of upheaval.
So, yes, I would agree that a "random" Aeducan who was, say, a Paragon of his people, and had a lot of personal power would be a candidate to take the throne in a time of upheaval.

Cassandra has none of those things. No claim whatsoever. No backing. She's just any other Pentaghast family wise.

What Br3admax said. Also, being a Paragon is far more important for Dwarven culture the What Cassandra is for humans/Nevarrans.

[Merela]

I would argue that being born a Pentaghast is a claim in itself, as flimsy as it is. What we should not forget, though, is that while Cassandra might be the most famous Pentaghast we know as players, in-universe there are likely other members of the dynasty who are just as skilled and well-known, especially by the Nevarrans, and they would be the ones people would turn to in time of troubles.