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[Wissenschaft 2.0]

The events of Dawn of the Seeker are canon because Cass makes a light reference to them when you ask about her history.

[azarhal]

Does it, I didn't know that. But I suspect she doesn't view Hawke is a positive light if Hawke let Anders live.

 

I haven't done that in years, my currently playthrough if full on Pro-Chantry/Templar so it won't happen in that one either. I even told Anders to leave in Act2 (after his personal quest).

 

I almost felt like keeping Bethany alive to have Meredith kill her in the end too, but I chickened out and left her to rot in the deep road.

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

I haven't done that in years, my currently playthrough if full on Pro-Chantry/Templar so it won't happen in that one either. I even told Anders to leave in Act2 (after his personal quest).

 

I almost felt like keeping Bethany alive to have Meredith kill her in the end too, but I chickened out and left her to rot in the deep road.

 

You can actually stop Meredith from killing Bethany even if you side with the Templars. I've seen it on youtube.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Spoiler

It seems like gaining powers only happens to non mages. A former mage who is un-tranquiled will simply gain their mage powers and personality back.

It also explains why Cassandra's templar tree is different from previous gamers. Seeker abilities are not the same as standard Templar abilities. They seem less focused on being anti-mage and are more anti-demon. Hence Cass' Templar skills reflect the fluff.

 

Spoiler

What I am more curious is that if this method can be used by anyone to gain magic-like powers.

 

I mean, I sure as hell would love to have a rogue with magic-like powers...

[Demon Velsper]

The events of Dawn of the Seeker are cannon because Cass makes a light reference to them when you ask about her history.

 

Canon = That which is undeniably true.

Cannon = Artillery piece for shooting cannonballs at stuff really fast.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

I can't stop watching that first conversation video. She's brilliant.

Spoiler

Inquisitor: Do you think the Chantry is worth saving?

 

Cassandra: I do, though I understand why someone born outside of human society might think otherwise. Cast the Chantry aside, and new problems replace old ones. We will have learned nothing from history. The people need stability and the Chantry needs a new purpose. Andraste had a dream for us. It can still be achieved. A dedication to what is truly important. Instead of building cathedrals and sewing gowns for the Divine, the Chantry used to spend its coin feeding the poor. If we are to spread the Maker's word across the world, we must do so with open hearts and open hands. I do not think it so unachievable. The Chantry has many good, honest people. They just need direction and inspiration. They need to be freed from centuries of adherence to tradition and ceremony. A chance for renewal is at our fingertips.

This is the religious character I've been waiting years for.   Thank you, Bioware! 

[FromMyths]

Also I don't think anyone who spares Anders justifies his action, they are just keeping him alive for reasons of their own. Personally I don't want to be the judge of his fate given that I liked him a bit too much before the chantry incident. It is indeed unforgettable but I'd like to see what Anders does if given a chance at redemption.
 
Overall looks like everyone have problems with Anders and its even more tempting now to keep him alive to see the consequence.

I was honestly with Anders all the way with his desire to protect mages for a while. I saw how some of the Templars acted in Kirkwall and pitied the nicer mages who were deperate enough to resort to blood magic.

But then he started to act suspiciously during the last act. I had Hawke ask him if the formula he was making was really to seperate himself from Justice. When he admitted it wasn't and that he wanted me to sneak him into the Chantry I immeadiately drew the line; I was willing to help mages out, but the fact he wouldn't tell me what he intended to do at the Chantry and was willing to lie about his original intentions for gathering the ingredients gave me a bad feeling. Saying I was pissed about what he did is a understatement; the Grand Cleric was a character who I could relate to in her desire to create better balance in the conflict and one of the many innocents caught in the disaster.

But I didn't kill him. That would've only gave him the status of martyr he wanted and let him avoid the consequences of what he did. I sent him away and sided with the mages and Bethany to protect them from the disaster he caused. When Anders appeared among the companions, I immediately kicked him out of the group once more. Hawks worded my reason for it well; the mages would not win with a murderer amongst them and he had done enough damage.

So yeah, I may not have killed Anders, but it wasn't just because he was once Hawke's friend. It was mostly out of a sense of a cruel mercy, and me wanting to force him to experience the cosquences he caused to himself and the mages he claimed he wanted to help. I would not give him the luxury and peace of death (though I admit to not recruiting Sebastion In the playthrough, so I didn't have the extra pressure).

On a more Cassandra related note, I got to wonder what kind of banter will happen between Varric and Cassandra if you romance her yet are good friends with Varric. Something tells me it will be really interesting to see. XD

[azarhal]

You can actually stop Meredith from killing Bethany even if you side with the Templars. I've seen it on youtube.

 

I know, I've done it before, but I'm playing an "Evil!Hawke" this time. He even sided with Sister Petrice (I still feel dirty about that one).

 

 

I wonder if alive Sister Petrice might show up in DAI...so Cassandra can kill her.

[Iakus]

The events of Dawn of the Seeker are cannon because Cass makes a light reference to them when you ask about her history.

I thought Cassandra implies the events were greatly exaggerated?

[Br3admax]

No, she said the tales told of her are exaggerated and her friends are forgotten. They aren't forgotten in DotS. 

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

The mages that help Cassandra are forgotten in the sense that everyone remembers her as the hero that saved the divine but no one mentions the mages that helped her. Which Cass fines wrong. Which is why she doesn't like talking about that event, she doesn't want unnecessary praise for something she couldn't and did not do alone.

[Urazz]

No, she said the tales told of her are exaggerated and her friends are forgotten. They aren't forgotten in DotS. 

If you look at the movie plot overall, it's really not all that crazy and exaggerated.  It's when you look at it more in detail is where you'll find the more crazy things that she'll probably say is exaggerated.  The scene where she killed several Darkspawn Ogres and Golems is probably such an example.

[Br3admax]

Except her companions are remembered in the movie, so that still wouldn't be what she's talking about. 

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

Canon = That which is undeniably true.

Cannon = Artillery piece for shooting cannonballs at stuff reallyfast.

 

Congrats, you found a spelling error caused by a single extra letter being inserted in a word. You are so clever.

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

Except her companions are remembered in the movie, so that still wouldn't be what she's talking about. 

 

Shes not talking about the movie. The movie does not show how those events are remembered in the present. Shes upset about how her "legend" is not accurate to what really happened.

[Br3admax]

That would be the point, yes. 

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

That would be the point, yes. 

 

Ah????????...........thats what I've been saying? What are you trying to say? Are you just agreeing with me?

[azarhal]

You were agreeing with each others.

 

If Cassandra is talking about the mages, but the story in the setting doesn't mention them it means the movie is more accurate.

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

He did not agree strongly enough. lol

[Merela]

The art agrees with you all!

 

 

Source: http://kimbbearly.tu...83618/four-days

[Dr. Doctor]

Dawg on Neogaf posted a pic of his waifu (he's word not mine). It's an inventory shot of Cassandra, no spoiler...well beside that very, very Orlesian hat spoiling the screen (I'm not putting Cassandra in that even if it has the best stat in the game).

I'm just picturing her walking into the armory, seeing that helmet and just making the disgusted noise.

[viperidae]

Spoiler

What I am more curious is that if this method can be used by anyone to gain magic-like powers.

 

I mean, I sure as hell would love to have a rogue with magic-like powers...

 

Spoiler

Seeker Archer / Seeker Assassin Multiplayer DLC 

 

Bioware PLS

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

Dawg on Neogaf posted a pic of his waifu (he's word not mine). It's an inventory shot of Cassandra, no spoiler...well beside that very, very Orlesian hat spoiling the screen (I'm not putting Cassandra in that even if it has the best stat in the game).

 

Spoiler

Wait, you can give Orlesian masks to your companions? OMG, sign me up for that!

[old_dawn]

Dawg on Neogaf posted a pic of his waifu (he's word not mine). It's an inventory shot of Cassandra, no spoiler...well beside that very, very Orlesian hat spoiling the screen (I'm not putting Cassandra in that even if it has the best stat in the game).

It looks like she stole a silver platter from a banquet and is now using it as a shield. xP

[Xilizhra]

As I said, if you kill Anders and side with the mages then Cassandra sees Hawke in a heroic light (even if hes a mage) and blames the knight commander for what happened in Kirkwall. Varric adds that Anders and the Red Lyrium could be just as equally to blame.

 

To Cassandra, the maker's will is justice and if any organization's actions are unjust then in her eyes they are not doing the maker's will. Hence, she did not join the rebelling Templars/Seekers because killing innocent mages in a witch hunt is obviously not just.

Actually, she does the same even if you let Anders live. Certainly she never attacked my Hawke after it was revealed that I did.