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[TheJediSaint]

I'm sure that the banter is somewhere, but they changed the mechanic so you can no longer mine it as easily.

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

Just asking, does the quest "The Ideal Romance" start after I give Cassandra Varric's book or do I have to do the quest to kill the templars and mages before I can romance her?

 

I think it depends on your approval rating.

 

To me, it only started after i completed her personal quest about the seekers, which showed up after i finished rescuing the Wardens.

 

 

As for banter, Blackwall commented on it, Congratulating me and stuff.

 

He also commented on it during his "what do you think about our allies" dialogue option, i could even ask him for romance tips. 

[Mater]

The only thing worse than dwarves is qunari. 

 

How do people look at a beautiful woman like Cass and want to hook up with her as a cow-like creature?

 

I'm serious. I'm genuinely puzzled on where this kind of fantasy comes from. 

 

well when i made my qunari mage inquisitor i did it just because i thought that would be hilarious for the "herald of androsde". the whole romancing cass thing came later when i got to know the character. had no plan to romance any companion 

[Br3admax]

Question for everyone, has anybody heard any banter that results from romancing Cass?

Dorian, Bull, and Sera so far. 

 

The only thing worse than dwarves is qunari. 

 

How do people look at a beautiful woman like Cass and want to hook up with her as a cow-like creature?

 

I'm serious. I'm genuinely puzzled on where this kind of fantasy comes from. 

Come on. You have to be an alt of Warder or something. He's never hear when you are. I mean I agree, but I'd never bring it up here. 

[Zu Long]

Varric's dialogue with her after romance is hilarious, but you have to have done one of his quests first.

[Br3admax]

I have other problems with Cass' romance tied to this. She's essentially become a plaything for any kind of male character. I don't like seeing such a badass, strong woman character become a sex toy. Nothing matters. Not even her strongest beliefs. No matter how much of a fan you are and put time into her story, you're no different than the guy who thinks she's a tool.

Huh?

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

Nope, I'm just me. I don't know who he (or she) is. 

 

I'd usually not bring it up either, but it kind of annoys me more that the game is out. I'll drop it after this post. I expected more disagreement though. I was hoping for the "racism" card to thrown about actually. 

 

I have other problems with Cass' romance tied to this. She's essentially become a plaything for any kind of male character. I don't like seeing such a badass, strong woman character become a sex toy. Nothing matters. Not even her strongest beliefs. No matter how much of a fan you are and put time into her story, you're no different than the guy who thinks she's a tool.

 

Not really sure where your getting the "sex toy" thing, do you think her love for romantic things make her a tool?

 

If your against the chantry, you can make her change, sure. But to me it was handled very well. She saw the damage the Chantry did, she saw how corrupt the Seekers were, to me those things made her faith falters and my Inquisitor was just there to make her let go of those things.

 

I think there are 2 dialogue cutscenes that show this, the one where she talks with you about the chantry (i think its the varric discussion one) and later her post Seeker Quest) where you pretty much tell her that while its admirable to try to restore things, sometimes its just better to let go of them.

 

If Cassandra was a zealot from beginning to end, she would just become a shallow character, she saw the church she followed "destroyed", (in my case) the rise of the man she put faith in turning out to be an non beliver and that same man not only liking her but supporting most of her non religious decisions (and thus showing you dont need the Maker to do whats right).

 

There is even a particular dialogue during her post Seeker mission regarding that, where she asks herself "if there is no Chantry, how will i know what is right".

 

That and the fact my Inquisitor is also a hopeless romantic like her

[DalishRanger]

Just asking, does the quest "The Ideal Romance" start after I give Cassandra Varric's book or do I have to do the quest to kill the templars and mages before I can romance her?

You have to do her quests to trigger a conversation about your flirting with her. That will open The Ideal Romance.

[Br3admax]

From what I can tell, it's very gamey. It doesn't matter how much you get hit on approval storywise. There's always a way to manipulate things to your favor. The story doesn't matter. How you relate to her or like her doesn't matter in the end. It's a free for all on Cassandra.

 

To be fair, it was similar with DAO's gift system, but without that, it was a little better. You could suffer more penalties, dialogue wise. Or if you were completely opposed to a belief system, it came down to death at times (like killing Leliana).

It doesn't work that way at all. You can keep approval high by doing Unfinished Business, but it's clear she doesn't agree with most of your actions from dialogue. The approval is just so she won't quit the party. 

[JasonPogo]

I just wish her god darned "romance" scene worked.... freezed and bugged.  I know this has most likely been brought up but I am really pissed...

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

From what I can tell, it's very gamey. It doesn't matter how much you get hit on approval storywise. There's always a way to manipulate things to your favor. The story doesn't matter. How you relate to her or like her doesn't matter in the end. It's a free for all on Cassandra.

 

To be fair, it was similar with DAO's gift system, but without that, it was a little better. You could suffer more penalties, dialogue wise. Or if you were completely opposed to a belief system, it came down to death at times (like killing Leliana).

 

Oh, your talking about approval stuff.

 

Well... she fitted my Agnostic Paladin (to use D&D terms) Inquisitor perfectly. I did not need to use any "gamey" strategies to romance her. We were exact opposites when it came to religious matters (and Cassandra herself knew that, since she mentions multiple times during the game and finnaly "accepts it" during the "holding hands at the window" cutscene.

 

But when it came down to stuff like what we should do to stop Corypherous or the Breach, we were pretty much seeing eye to eye, direct approach was what i usually choose in any game and both Cassandra and my Inquisitor had this ungodly hatred for politics.

[Br3admax]

I mean, the fact that she can still fall for someone who she fully knows doesn't believe anything she says, and even causes damage to it, she'll still shack up with. Not just Qunari/dwarf/elf. Humans too, of course. Like I said, it's a free for all. I expected a character with a stronger mind of her own, but she's developed into someone easily molded instead.

 

I remember Gaider once saying he views his characters like children.. and it always make him a little nervous to send them off into the wild. lol. If that's the case, he should be feeling it now. She's completely out of his hands and into whoever's. 

 

And not only that, the fate of Chantry itself is dictated by anyone too. That's even more sad.

I don't really see anything wrong with Cassandra falling in love with someone who disagrees with her world views. I really haven't see anything that allows us to go full tyrant. Or destroy anything, just suggest letting it destroy itself.

 

Eh, it's a video game.

 

That's placing a lot of faith in epilogue slides. Those haven't been 100% before. 

[JasonPogo]

So wait how much approval or whatever do you need to romance her?  If I choose to like say recruit the mages and get a huge hit can I still romance her?

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

I don't really see anything wrong with Cassandra falling in love with someone who disagrees with her world views. I really haven't see anything that allows us to go full tyrant. Or destroy anything, just suggest letting it destroy itself.

 

Eh, it's a video game.

 

That's placing a lot of faith in epilogue slides. Those haven't been 100% before. 

 

Aye, i think StreetMagic wanted Cassy to be more of a zealot, but no matter what your Inquisitor is, she is no such person, she is reasonable and wants things to change, only she is in doubt on how it should change.

 

If you want someone who is MUCH less prone to doubt or change, take a look at Vivienne.

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

I didn't want her to be a zealot. Where did I say that? I wanted her to be autonomous, strong, and not too "gamey". To be the same woman she was before this. Now instead of being "a character" who dictates more of her own terms, she's "our character" to be used. Only our terms matter. 

 

Well, i will admit that if your Inquisitor is a Qunari, i think would be really... really awkward within the game context, since i take there is no special scenes of Cassandra & a Qunari Inquisitor trying to understand each other.

 

I mean, the cultural diferences would be so strong that it require MUCH more dialogues and scenes to make a couple like that work.

 

But then again, i guess i am lucky i picked Human Noble, her romance felt pretty natural and much better than DA2's or i might even say DA:O's. This time i actually got into a peaceful argument with my LI without making me a douchebag and unlike DA:O that doesnt automatically makes her hate me without reason.

 

It even felt awesome since my Inquisitor went from a very strongly atheist in the beginning "I dont belive in the maker, specially not andraste!!!" to someone who is much more reasonable understanding, Cassandra's romance playing no small part in that.

[Br3admax]

The Qunari Inquisitor isn't of the same culture as the Qunari, so even that's not really a problem. In the end, Cassandra never compromises her beliefs or ideals, so I still don't see the problem here. 

[Vita Brevis]

I mean, the cultural diferences would be so strong that it require MUCH more dialogues and scenes to make a couple like that work.

Except there's no such thing as Qunari Inquisitor.

[Br3admax]

Unless you're out sacrificing children in the streets, for their blood, to summon demons to consume the world, I see no reason why being from another culture with different beliefs should bar someone for caring about the person behind all that.