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#18526
Milan92

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I did the romance first, it does not change anything realy. If there is diffrent banter or anything, I'm not sure.However, I'm quite sure my game is bugged in regards to banter. So...

 

How do some people manage to romance her before the Wardens quest?

 

Did they do Halamshiral first?

 

Edit: I just remember you only have to talk with the warden in Crestwood in order to progress.



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I agree with Big Boss. lol



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How do some people manage to romance her before the Wardens quest?

 

Did they do Halamshiral first?

 

Edit: I just remember you only have to talk with the warden in Crestwood in order to progress.

I did Crestwood, and took her to kill the rebel mages.



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Anybody mention the Inquisitor's and the Seeker's relationship? I know banter is bugged, but I'm a little annoyed it isn't mentioned by anyone. Ever.

 

 

Dorian mentions how strange it is to see her smiling more.  And how she's blushing when she denies she's smiling.



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How do some people manage to romance her before the Wardens quest?

 

Did they do Halamshiral first?

 

Edit: I just remember you only have to talk with the warden in Crestwood in order to progress.

 

I finished the game in my own way. I did all the locations in my preference, for example, Crestwood was the last major location for me, while the Western Approach and Emprise Du Lion were already long completed. This was not "the correct order" to put it that way since those two locations have much higher enemies then Crestwood for example. I also noticed that I was mostly 3 or 4 levels higher than the highest level "requirement" mission show in the description.

 

I don't recall when I romanced Cassandra exactly but it was fairly quickly. I did however have her almost everytime in my party, I mainly used Dorian, Cassandra, Blackwall and Iron Bull. I used Vivienne and Varic maybe three times max or something and Solas only in the beginning. Cole I used sometimes to see what he talked about during trips and such.



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I must have misheard this, but did Cassandra have a mage lover? And he died at the Conclave? If so this makes the flirting at Haven with her sonewhat creepy.

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I must have misheard this, but did Cassandra have a mage lover? And he died at the Conclave? If so this makes the flirting at Haven with her sonewhat creepy.

 

Yes and yes.

 

And yeah, I took a step back as well, being shocked at that discovery.

 

The only thing I can believe is that each Act is quite the time apart from each other.

 

Or perhaps Cassandra's way of actually experience Love is different, given what happened in her background when she

Spoiler

 

^ Spoilertag is heavyish due to one of her personal quests.



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I must have misheard this, but did Cassandra have a mage lover? And he died at the Conclave? If so this makes the flirting at Haven with her sonewhat creepy.

Why?  It's not like there's anyway for the inquisitor could be aware of it.  

 

It does explain why she tried to tear them a new one at the start, however.



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I personally just took it to mean she had a lover when she was young and adventured around with him; however the relationship ended sometime in the past, and this Mage happened to die at the conclave-not that she was personally involved with him for that entire time.

Ymmv, however.
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I must have misheard this, but did Cassandra have a mage lover? And he died at the Conclave? If so this makes the flirting at Haven with her sonewhat creepy.

 

Well that doesn't really mean they were lovers at that time in the Conclave 


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I really loved Cassandra in this game, she wasn't a big character in the second game so it's nice to learn more about her. In the end we are both together, Elf (archer) and Seeker Cassandra.

 

What actually surprised me the most was the fact that Bioware still made it possible to have a relationship with Cassandra without being religious at all. In real life I am not religious. My opinion is that people can believe what they want and how they want but only if they stick to their lives. In other words demanding change or forbidding things and lastly annoying people is where I draw the line, as long as people don't do that it's all fine by me. Furthermore if something bad happens that's just bad luck, if something good happens that's good luck. There's nothing else than that and the most important part of believing is believing in yourself.

 

But to come back to the game, as you can guess I did the same thing. Whenever they talked about Andraste or being her "herald" or even the maker, I always denied those things or said I don't believe in them. This rarely got me into trouble or only smaller negative approval. In the end she took me for who I was and I did the same thing, love is all that matters. Honestly I thought this would be impossible that if I did not acknowledge her faith and everything that comes with it, I wouldn't be able to romance her. Luckily I was wrong.

 

Lastly she is a great character, beautifull, smart, strong and she has a playfull nature. I also liked her shy manners regarding certain things, she knows what she wants but does not always want to talk about it or even show it, only those she truly trust will learn more. I hope to see more about her in DLC and future games!

 

Her character takes a liking for you because of her religion though. You are the Herald of Andraste to her. You won't get away from it. Whatever beliefs you lack, she more than makes up for it and still thinks the Maker sent you. So at the end of the day, you might want to thank the Maker anyways. Without him, you'd be outta luck :D

 

Similar things actually sour in reality for many people, because the unbeliever ends up thinking the other one is deluded. Love or not. No matter how nice one is, it's always under their breath. And the believer knows that.

 

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Her relationship with Galyon was 20 years ago. I could've sworn she says she regretted or cut it off somewhere, but I could be wrong.



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I personally just took it to mean she had a lover when she was young and adventured around with him; however the relationship ended sometime in the past, and this Mage happened to die at the conclave-not that she was personally involved with him for that entire time.

Ymmv, however.

 

Yeah, this.



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I personally just took it to mean she had a lover when she was young and adventured around with him; however the relationship ended sometime in the past, and this Mage happened to die at the conclave-not that she was personally involved with him for that entire time.

Ymmv, however.

 

That is very much confirmed, in her banter with Varric. They had a brief relationship when she was younger, presumably soon after Dawn of the Seeker. They probably hadn't even seen each other for several years now, much less a relationship at the time of the conclave.



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We still on the,  "He was the love of her life," thing? 



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We still on the,  "He was the love of her life," thing? 

 

I don't get that impression at all. It sounds more like she felt guilty. Probably just threw herself into work after that. FOR 20 YEARS. :D



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Her relationship with Galyon was 20 years ago. I could've sworn she says she regretted or cut it off somewhere, but I could be wrong.


I think the word she used was "fleeting".

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Everyone has mentioned how they found her referencing Galyan during her romance scene a bit off-putting, but I personally found something IMHO a little more unsettling. Directly after the romance scene she says she believe you were sent by Andraste and you've always exerted a power over her she finds a bit scary (or words to that effect).

To me, that made it feel a bit....unsettling. Does she like you for you or is there a subtle layer of coercion to the romance since, to her, you're a quasi-religious figure?

Don't get me wrong, I loved the scene. I just think it has more layers of nuance than immediately met the eye.

#18543
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We still on the,  "He was the love of her life," thing? 

 

Not really hard to be the love of her life when he's the only guy she's been with.

 

Until she meets an inquisitor who romances her ofcourse.



#18544
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Lulz, she never said you have power over her. 

 

 

And it seems Cassandra falls in love with the Inquisitor in spite of those things, not because of it. That was kind of the point of the the scene when she acknowledges the flirting. 

 

Not really hard to be the love of her life when he's the only guy she's been with.

 

Until she meets an inquisitor who romances her ofcourse.

 

I don't think people are using it in that way when they say it, but sure. 20 years of chastity could do that, I guess. 



#18545
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Lulz, she never said you have power over her. 
 
 
And it seems Cassandra falls in love with the Inquisitor in spite of those things, not because of it. That was kind of the point of the the scene when she acknowledges the flirting.


She does say something like that or at the very least, words I interpreted to that effect-don't have the exact words in front of me though, and a quick google search produces nothing. Have to research later.

And to me, some of the courting scene is about her disbelief that this religious figure, who has so many important things he should be doing, is interested in her.

I'm sorry you don't interpret the character that way, but isn't it a bit fun that Gaider wrote a character that could be interpreted differently and has some nuance?

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She does say something like that or at the very least, words I interpreted to that effect-don't have the exact words in front of me though, and a quick google search produces nothing. Have to research later.

She says you frighten her because she believes you can do anything. That's it. 

 

 

And to me, some of the courting scene is about her disbelief that this religious figure, who has so many important things he should be doing, is interested in her.

Except that's not what she says in the scene?

 

 

I'm sorry you don't interpret the character that way, but isn't it a bit fun that Gaider wrote a character that could be interpreted differently and has some nuance?

What you describe is not fun in the slightest. Plus it's kind of Shepard-esque which is always a negative. 



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Why?  It's not like there's anyway for the inquisitor could be aware of it.  
 
It does explain why she tried to tear them a new one at the start, however.


It certainly does, Justinia's death is major but losing someone who were that close to irregardless of how long ago it was really hurts. Poor Cass seems to lose everyone she cares about in the worst ways possible. Come to think of it, does she say anything about what happened at Adamant if you romance her and have her in your party?

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If you ask her "Are you still afraid?" she just says she's been afraid since they met. It doesn't mean you exert power. 



#18549
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She says you frighten her because she believes you can do anything. That's it. 

Except that's not what she says in the scene?

What you describe is not fun in the slightest. Plus it's kind of Shepard-esque which is always a negative.


This will have to wait until I get home and can write down the lines specifically. I do think the lines are slightly ambiguous and open to interpretation, but if I do discover they are definitive in your favor, I'll admit it.

And I do think its fun (and realistic)! to have people doing things for a multitude of reasons. Sure, Cass might like you for you, but I would find it hard to believe the fact that she believes you've been given special powers to save the earth by her version of Jesus would not play into the discussion at all. For Cass, who is an admitted believer, I would find it more ludicrous to believe that played no part in her decision whatsoever.

And it's fun to debate these things with people who are so passionate about it. Or at least I think so.

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Sure, Cass might like you for you, but I would find it hard to believe the fact that she believes you've been given special powers to save the earth by her version of Jesus would not play into the discussion at all. For Cass, who is an admitted believer, I would find it more ludicrous to believe that played no part in her decision whatsoever.

And it's fun to debate these things with people who are so passionate about it. Or at least I think so.

 

This I agree with. It's why I said above that one can't write off religion in this storyarc, like it or not. I don't think that means you have power over her though. Cassandra is responsible for her own choices. It's not like she's some brainwashed cultist. :D I think it's kind of cool that someone could believe in you so much, no matter how you feel about yourself. That gives Cass some power in a way. People who believe in us despite ourselves are confidence boosters.