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[Xilizhra]

Should Britain and France have ignored the invasion of Poland, then?

[Master Warder Z_]

Really, I need to go get a Big Mac now.

 

The Maker has blessed my metabolism. I'm a skinny mofo after a shake and a burger.

 

o.o

 

 

Diabetes and cancer await!

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I seem to have fallen through a wormhole and landed in the pre-release Cassandra thread, by the looks of it.

[Master Warder Z_]

Should Britain and France have ignored the invasion of Poland, then?

 

I can direct you to my Uncle's non military grave in Baden if you wish to ask.

 

He has yet to be reentered in a military cemetery.

[Xilizhra]

I can direct you to my Uncle's non military grave in Baden if you wish to ask.

 

He has yet to be reentered in a military cemetery.

Wehrmacht or SS?

[Br3admax]

Warder, why are you responding when you could just strike out words like this: 

 

 

Should Britain Ferelden and France Orlais have ignored the invasion of Poland Red Crossing, then?

 

 

Wehrmacht or SS Emerald Knights?

[Master Warder Z_]

Wehrmacht or SS?

 

36th Infantry Division under the ninth army.

 

But to answer your question?

 

Both.

 

He was obviously a member of the Waffen given his placement in their elite grenadier division responsible for the pacification of Belarus, Warsaw and a dozen ghettos across Poland and France. But he was also a member of the Wehrmacht because his division was placed under the command of a wehrmacht commander.

 

Theodor Busse was not a member of the State Security portion of the armed forces, he was regular army.

 

To answer the question of which he was actually enlisted with though? Does it matter if i answer that his dress uniform had runic lightning bolts adorning the collar or not?

[Master Warder Z_]

Warder, why are you responding when you could just strike out words like this: 

 

Honestly?

 

It hadn't occurred to me.

 

._.

 

Besides if we played that game, Germany would be the Anderfels...yuck.

[Xilizhra]

36th Infantry Division under the ninth army.

 

But to answer your question?

 

Both.

 

He was obviously a member of the Waffen given his placement in their elite grenadier division responsible for the pacification of Belarus, Warsaw and a dozen ghettos across Poland and France. But he was also a member of the Wehrmacht because his division was placed under the command of a wehrmacht commander.

 

Theodor Busse was not a member of the State Security portion of the armed forces, he was regular army.

 

To answer the question of which he was actually enlisted with though? Does it matter if i answer that his dress uniform had runic lightning bolts adorning the collar or not?

Well, I daresay that it matters for political reasons regarding that cemetery thing. There's probably some issue with honoring a card-carrying Nazi and all.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I missed these debates about WW2, Hitler, and Poland. It's been pretty quiet over on the Mass Effect side of things with just a few of us just hanging out sharing screenshots and our Shepard family albums. Occasionally a noob comes along and we have to educate them, but other than that it's been pretty quiet. Now let's get back to how every fantasy story is a reenactment of WW2 in a fantasy setting.

[Br3admax]

Remember two pages back when this thread was about Cassandra? Good times. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Well, I daresay that it matters for political reasons regarding that cemetery thing. There's probably some issue with honoring a card-carrying Nazi and all.

 

There shouldn't be.

 

Soldiers who give their lives for their homelands should be honored; the ideology of their flag, and the opinion of outsiders shouldn't be a factor.

 

Besides that? Him being honored as a Veteran isn't the greatest denial of his homeland, just the last.

[Master Warder Z_]

Remember two pages back when this thread was about Cassandra? Good times. 

 

o.o Remember when Lob randomly started posting quotes of you from other threads and replied to them here?

 

Good times.

[Sir DeLoria]

Please, do continue.

[Xilizhra]

There shouldn't be.

 

Soldiers who give their lives for their homelands should be honored; the ideology of their flag, and the opinion of outsiders shouldn't be a factor.

 

Besides that? Him being honored as a Veteran isn't the greatest denial of his homeland, just the last.

Some forces are qualitatively different. And it's not a matter of the opinion of outsiders, so far as I know; few have repudiated the Nazis harder than Germany itself.

And what other denials were there?

[Master Warder Z_]

Some forces are qualitatively different. And it's not a matter of the opinion of outsiders, so far as I know; few have repudiated the Nazis harder than Germany itself.

 

Why i wonder.

 

Because of all the foreign armies stationed there for decade after decade, the people whom their nation's economies were tied into for years and in this very day? Heh in fact if we are being honest? Let's discuss the fact Germany is reliant upon America military strength for its own national defense strategy.

 

The very people who just cut a swath the country decades before?

 

Yes Germany denounced its fighting men, it denied their families comfort, them the honor they had earned, the rewards of service.

 

But if you believe it was the will of Germany that such be done?

 

Don't Patronize my family with that nonsense if you don't mind.

 

That is not repudiation, that is indoctrination.

 

And i'm tired of discussing this in a thread i actually enjoy, i was hoping to let it rest.

[Milan92]

[Xilizhra]

Why i wonder.

 

Because of all the foreign armies stationed there for decade after decade, the people whom their nation's economies were tied into for years and in this very day? Heh in fact if we are being honest? Let's discuss the fact Germany is reliant upon America military strength for its own national defense strategy.

 

The very people who just cut a swath the country decades before?

 

Yes Germany denounced its fighting men, it denied their families comfort, them the honor they had earned, the rewards of service.

 

But if you believe it was the will of Germany that such be done?

 

Don't Patronize my family with that nonsense if you don't mind.

 

That is not repudiation, that is indoctrination.

 

And i'm tired of discussing this in a thread i actually enjoy, i was hoping to let it rest.

Japan, too, is dependent on American power for its military defense, even moreso than Germany, yet it's far less apologetic.

 

Also, maybe it's me, but I wouldn't think one would need to be indoctrinated to hate the Nazis.

[CreepingShadow]

Should Britain and France have ignored the invasion of Poland, then?

If Britain knew how to mind it's own business WW2 never would have even happened, the N@Zis would never have existed, and the Ottoman and Austrian Empires might still be standing. Overall the world would be a much more stable place.

[azarhal]

 

This whole idea started because Warder mused on how Cass wonders if her life would be different if Anthony hadn't died. And if she'd go back to that, if she had a choice.

 

Be a good wife, with a bunch of brats, never putting an armor on in a castle/manor filled with horses...and their dung.

 

I'm pretty sure she's not interested...

[Aimi]

I regret ever even so slightly mentioning War. It didn't have to extend to this.

 
I agree.

I don't want to get into the argument, because I don't trust myself to make inoffensive posts, but I'll just say that I am a German citizen, that I am a graduate student in history, that I have ancestors and relatives who fought in That War on That Side, and that I disagree with Warder on this topic about as strongly as it is possible to disagree with somebody about something.

And that's it.
 

This whole idea started because Warder mused on how Cass wonders if her life would be different if Anthony hadn't died. And if she'd go back to that, if she had a choice.
 
I said I would choose the more comfortable life at least. She leads a life that is necessary, but it doesn't mean she leads a desirable life. 
 
And now we're here.

Would a life as a dragon hunter have been meaningfully safer or more comfortable than her life as the Right Hand?

[TheJediSaint]

Well this thread has gone down the rabbit hole. Can we go back to discussing how delightful Cassandra is, please?