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#18901
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"You'll have to wait and see." is becoming the new "Enchantment." which is the new "Space magic."

 

 

At least it isn't "Well, you can have X, or a new raid tier" like it is with Blizzard.


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#18902
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It's a shame the inquisitor didn't die at the end of the game, would have been interesting, if also heartbreaking, to see how a romanced Cassandra would have reacted to him dying in the final battle.



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The Inquisitor can't die in a game with post-campaign dlc, which all the story-related dlc for this game will be. Also, Gaider wrote this. Do not jinx the rest of us. 



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The Inquisitor can't die in a game with post-campaign dlc, which all the story-related dlc for this game will be. Also, Gaider wrote this. Do not jinx the rest of us. 

 

I never disputed that the inquisitor survived the ending. I just said it would be interesting to watch an ending where he did die and Cass was romanced.



#18905
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Lulz. No I mean, they can't die because of dlc, so why would you want them to? Obviously you can't dispute if they died or not. They obviously didn't. 



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Lulz. No I mean, they can't die because of dlc, so why would you want them to? Obviously you can't dispute if they died or not. They obviously didn't. 

 

I don't want them to die... well, perhaps I do. I like dark endings.

 

I just think it would have been an interesting "What if" scenario to see. 

 

Sorry if I am unclear, three quaters of Tullamore Dew does that to you.


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#18907
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Not really. All you find out from banter is that Blackwall has a crush on Josephine and tried to send her notes but they failed and it never goes anywhere if you talk to both of them about it. Turns out there is a companion that breaks up with you if you don't agree with them:

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She doesn't break up with you if you disagree with her. I disagreed with her and she called me stupid, but she loved me all the same. I had a choice to either break up with her or agree to disagree and stop the argument. We ended up just fine.

As far as I know, the only thing that makes Sera break up with you is if you:

Spoiler


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I never disputed that the inquisitor survived the ending. I just said it would be interesting to watch an ending where he did die and Cass was romanced.


I'd imagine that would be the point where the screen would fade to black and we'd hear Cassandra shout "Bullshit, that's not what really happened!", the scene would cut to the party in the Skyhold throne room.
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So I'm starting a Cassandra romance play through and I had a question after reading through that last few pages.  Are all the endings ambiguous about the relationship standing or do some end with you guys definitely split or together?  I figured the Cassandra Divine ending would lead to a split but some of the post here seem to imply this isn't the case.  Sorry if this has already been discussed to death tried looking through the thread but it's quite long.



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The ending I got was pretty definite that they were going to stick together.  The inquisitor would be busy with fallout from the events of the game, and she was going to rebuild the seekers, but they were together now and for the forseeable future (depending on future DLC...)



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Am I the only one who thought DA3 far too bright?

 

I would have vastly prefered the HoF to have become a villain (or the Orleasian commander if you did the US). Have them become mind controlled by Cory and become his most dangerous field operative in the game. Have the Warden be the one who always opposed you at every turn, harassing you and hindering your operations. Imagine your character from the first dragon age game becoming your greatest nemisis, the one always screwing up your plans.

 

Then near the end your warden's LI is the one forced to kill them in the final mission. Giving you a scene of them givng the dying Warden a hearfelt goodbye before they pass away,



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Hahaha. Yes, because when BioWare couldn't even put the Warden in this game, the first thought that came to mind was how can we ****** off half the fan base. 


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I'm trying to fathom the need for unnecessary grimdark, and I just don't get it.

"The Hero of Ferelden becomes a villain and their LI has to kill them."

While you're at it, throw in "the Darkspawn wake up the sixth Archdemon and the Reapers arrive from dark space, also Snape kills Dumbledore."
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Am I the only one who thought DA3 far too bright?

 

I would have vastly prefered the HoF to have become a villain (or the Orleasian commander if you did the US). Have them become mind controlled by Cory and become his most dangerous field operative in the game. Have the Warden be the one who always opposed you at every turn, harassing you and hindering your operations. Imagine your character from the first dragon age game becoming your greatest nemisis, the one always screwing up your plans.

 

Then near the end your warden's LI is the one forced to kill them in the final mission. Giving you a scene of them givng the dying Warden a hearfelt goodbye before they pass away,

 

Go home

 

Your drunk



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Is this the part where Cory force feeds you red lyrium while your companions watch?



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Seriously though, that idea is so bad that I genuinely cannot even begin to wonder how the notion came into your head.

Like, what manner of sorcery persuaded you to not only have that thought, but also to share it?

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I'm trying to fathom the need for unnecessary grimdark, and I just don't get it.

"The Hero of Ferelden becomes a villain and their LI has to kill them."

While you're at it, throw in "the Darkspawn wake up the sixth Archdemon and the Reapers arrive from dark space, also Snape kills Dumbledore."

 

How is it grimdark what I am suggesting?

 

I just want a good conclusion to the Warden's storyline. And them becoming a villain you must oppose is a fitting end in my opinion.

 

Just because I want the HoF to become a villain and support the idea that Hawke should always have died does not mean I support grimdark stories. It means I simply support stories where the heroes suffers setbacks.

 

 

Go home

 

Your drunk

 

Just because I had a whole bottle of whisky.

 

No u.



#18918
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The Warden being mindraped until we shove a spirit blade through their face is grimdark.

Hawke's entire story is a setback, so....

 

None of them are heroes anymore. They don't need to die to conclude their stories. Sure Hawke could stop disappearing all the time, but for all intents and purposes, the Warden's story is concluded. They don't need another. 



#18919
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Don't mind ol' Rex here. He just has a very different idea of what makes a good story than a lot of people. :S



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How is it grimdark what I am suggesting?


Seriously? The Hero of Ferelden almost single-handedly saves the world from a Blight, only to be mind controlled and killed by their lover. All that needs is cancer and a miscarriage and the circle will be complete.

I just want a good conclusion to the Warden's storyline. And them becoming a villain you must oppose is a fitting end in my opinion.



Then have your Warden die in DAO. The very fact that they can live past DAO at all means they won't have any ending. Either Bioware gives surviving Wardens a happy ending and the Sacrifice people b**ch and moan about how they got shafted, or Bioware gives them a tragic ending and people who let their Warden live will b**ch and moan.

Just because I want the HoF to become a villain and support the idea that Hawke should always have died does not mean I support grimdark stories. It means I simply support stories where the heroes suffers setbacks.


Always wanting Hawke to die is not only not "suffering setbacks", it also doesn't make a whole ton of narrative sense. The entirety of DA2 is Hawke suffering setbacks, so any kind of forced tragedy on their end will be terribly predictable. Furthermore, Hawke's self sacrifice in DAI is probably the least sensible thing he/she could possibly do. That entire choice is meaningless in terms of actual storytelling and only exists to force drama. It's like the end of the Rannoch arc in ME3, only minus the potentially uplifting tone.

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Cancer and a miscarriage? Lol. 



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I was kind of hoping that Coryphaeus actually did manage to enter the Fade and that the final battle would take place at the gates of the Black City itself.

While it is fun to get one over on the villain (arresting Duchess Florienne was immensely satisfying), Corypheus never really seemed like much of a threat outside of the attack on Haven. We knew what he was planning (and why he didn't adjust his plan is anyone's guess) which made him pretty easy to stop. "Evil Lich-thing wants to become a god" is a pretty common fantasy plot, the minor villains like Alexius, Calpernia, and Samson were much more interesting than Cory was.

#18923
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They really aren't. Cory is the most tragic DA villain to date. His story's actually really complex if you look for it.



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So I'm starting a Cassandra romance play through and I had a question after reading through that last few pages.  Are all the endings ambiguous about the relationship standing or do some end with you guys definitely split or together?  I figured the Cassandra Divine ending would lead to a split but some of the post here seem to imply this isn't the case.  Sorry if this has already been discussed to death tried looking through the thread but it's quite long.

 

If she doesn't become the divine, and rebuilds the seekers or stays with the inquisition she still stay with the inquisitor. The divine ending is the only one that suggests there is a breakup.

 

Given that Leliana's writers stated that her becoming divine doesn't end the romance between her and the warden its also possible that this may be the case for Cass, though the dialogue sort of hints towards a split if she's chosen divine.


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I really never got that hint you're talking about.

She says pretty much the exact same things if she isnt Divine.

Oh well, time will tell.