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[Sifr]

 

Anyway, I love bringing Cassandra to the Arbor Wild, she's really annoyed by "all that nonsense" (I got a lots of disapproval there, but she still loves me). Cassandra is probably the only character who is going to digest everything we learn in DAI. Not sure exactly what will result of it though.

 

I love that despite disapproving of stuff like that, she is completely willing to go along with whatever the Inquisitor chooses to do, no matter how crazy it sounds, it really shows how much support and faith she has in them as a leader (and possibly as a romantic partner).

 

Of course, I suppose that it might be because she recognises that the roles were reversed, her hot-blooded and stubborn streak tends to make it hard for others to talk her out of something once she has her mind set on it, something she admits to being a major flaw of hers. It makes sense that she'd not want to be hypocritical by objecting too much when she sees that same stubborness in other people.

[Br3admax]

That depends on how correct Solas is about the nature of the Fade. I'd like to think that a millenia year old Elvhen god-king in hiding is correct about a thing or two in regards to the nature of the world.

 

If circle trained mages were taught to maybe respect the Fade as opposed to fearing it all together perhaps possession would not be as big an issue. There's always going to be that guy or girl that drops the ball, but from what we know of Tevinter or even Rivain it isn't raining Abominations in those places. They're more like freak accidents than an everyday reality.

I don't think a god-king, whatever that means, has the knowledge to judge mages who are all far weaker than he is. And abominations happen all the time in Rivian. They just act like they're natural events and there's no way of stopping them. In Tevinter, abominations also still happen, but magisters and lesser mages also do a good job of killing each other.

[azarhal]

Finished the game and I think I got the best ending for me: Cass Divine + Allied Templar. Chantry, Templars, Circles get reformed* and there is no bloodshed nor hints of instability once the tiny sect asking to go back to the old statu quo is dealt with via peaceful negotiations (thanks Josie).

 

*It's all super vague though, the devs can do whatever they want.

 

Although, I think Cass was sadder than me over the whole thing. Her "the Maker can be kind" was heartbreaking. Once again, she gives me the impression that she worship something that she see has an *******...

[Mushashi7]

774 pages about Cassandra Pentaghast?

Well, I must say....

I think Bioware has created a new hero. Marvel couldn't have done better.

[Br3admax]

I doubt there are even 200 pages actually about Cassandra in this thread. 

[JakeLeTDK]

I'm about to steal Varric's draft for the latest chapter of Sword and Shield for her. Anyone wanna join the heist?

[Andres Hendrix]

Saw someone post about this & I don't know if it's meant to be an innuendo or not. 

 

So... Cassandra's Romance Card, any of you guys notice the... suggestive nature of the cup in her right hand?

 

Where she is holding it... how it is dripping/ soaking wet...  

 

Although it could just be my perverted mind, I'll show myself out... 

 

XD LOL!!! You made my day...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Love it when you fluster Cass

*sighs disapprovingly*

[Jaison1986]

I don't think a god-king, whatever that means, has the knowledge to judge mages who are all far weaker than he is. And abominations happen all the time in Rivian. They just act like they're natural events and there's no way of stopping them. In Tevinter, abominations also still happen, but magisters and lesser mages also do a good job of killing each other.

 

You have no proof. What stops those abominations from being like Wynne, who while possessed still manages to be an perfectly normal person? Untill we get more context, any claims about how mages are in Rivain will be simply an assumption.

[AresKeith]

I am more curious about her left hand.  

 

Why is it in such a menacing position?

 

Why does there seem to be blood spilling from it?

 

What is that red circle behind her hand?

 

So many questions

[Br3admax]

You have no proof. What stops those abominations from being like Wynne, who while possessed still manages to be an perfectly normal person? Untill we get more context, any claims about how mages are in Rivain will be simply an assumption.

Wynne wasn't an abomination. Otherwise she wouldn't have been able to separate the spirit from herself, just like any other abomination. Possessed =/= a spirit inside you. 

[Sifr]

I am more curious about her left hand.  

 

Why is it in such a menacing position?

 

Why does there seem to be blood spilling from it?

 

What is that red circle behind her hand?

 

Is it just me, or does it look like her fingers are in the shape of the black city?

 

I suppose that would fit as her romance card is the Temperance Card, often seen as an arbiter of judgment, the unification of opposites and that between life and death, or our world and the next.

 

The latter quite nicely describes her relationship with the Inquisitor, as according to Solas, Seeker training makes Cassandra more "real" in essence as she's more strongly tied to this world, whereas due to having the Anchor, the Inquisitor is thus more closely tied to the ever-changing nature of the Fade.

[Br3admax]

It's a common tale told about the Wardens, it appears in DA:I as well. She's just old and cranky. That's about it, at least I think. 

[Sifr]

I think Wynne isn't an abomination, but I can't tell where the spirit ends and begins sometimes. She talks about being a frustrated moody youth, who suddenly had an overwhelming sense of faith one night.. which sounds like what happened to Cassandra. And the stories Wynne tells sound like platitudes and simplistic children's tales, much like a shallow spirit would espouse. I mean, they only gather generic imagery and ideals from the dreams of mortals. Wynne seemed like she could be more intelligent than that, but this part of her personality overruled it.

 

And on a similar note, after hearing Solas talk about Spirits and how they sometimes change depending on the person viewing them and their expectations, it makes me wonder, did Anders end up corrupting Justice into Vengeance because he thought he was turning Justice into a Demon, so it became a self-fulfilling prophecy?

[Br3admax]

I was unaware Wynne had an "other side."

[azarhal]

And on a similar note, after hearing Solas talk about Spirits and how they sometimes change depending on the person viewing them and their expectations, it makes me wonder, did Anders end up corrupting Justice into Vengeance because he thought he was turning Justice into a Demon, so it became a self-fulfilling prophecy?

 

There is a Cass/Solas banter about how the actions of people on the real world cause spirits to change into demons. So probably not.

[Sifr]

There is a Cass/Solas banter about how the actions of people on the real world cause spirits to change into demons. So probably not.

 

I took that banter to mean that if you think a Spirit is a Demon, it will change into one, so couldn't Anders belief that the Spirit within him was becoming a monster potentially have influenced Justice into manifesting that way?

 

When Hawke goes into the Fade in DA2 and brings Anders along, we see Justice in control and free from Anders influencing him. I always wondered why during that section of the game, he comes across as a lot calmer and back to his "normal" self that the Warden met in Awakening, rather than the angry spirit that shows up whenever Anders Hulk's out? (He only becomes enraged if you agree to Torpor's deal, but that's fairly understandable).

 

But as for Cass and the Seekers, I don't think they're abominations despite what the Lord Seeker says, since they're clearly not actively being possessed.

[azarhal]

I took that banter to mean that if you think a Spirit is a Demon, it will change into one, so couldn't Anders belief that the Spirit within him was becoming a monster potentially have influenced Justice into manifesting that way?

 

[snip]

 

But as for Cass and the Seekers, I don't think they're abominations despite what the Lord Seeker says, since they're clearly not actively being possessed.

 

The banter I'm talking about mention fighting affecting the fade and leading to hunger and rage. Start here.

 

For the other thing, there seems to be different level of "spirit inside someone body" possession. Some lead to split personalities (Anders/Justice), some lead to literal possession (mage turning into monsters) and some lead to a merge (Flemeth, Wynne). The Seekers are probably of the merge category if they are "abominations".

 

There is also Cole saying that Cassandra is the same as him but backward. He less or more think of her as Faith in a few banter.

[Milan92]

*sighs disapprovingly*

 

What's wrong with it?

[Precursor Meta]

Just wanted to know If anyone else used Cassandra as a sort of moral compass when making decisions.

She seems to have a decent idea of how right and wrong should be in the world. I often found myself feeling like I made the "right choice" whenever Cassandra approved of my actions and wrong when she didn't.