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People play Dwarves... after playing every variation of human there is first. And they actually put more effort into the different backgrounds than I thought. I was sure Qunari was going to end up being "horned humans".
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Nah. Most don't even finish the game.
I wonder if they'd ever make a set up for a game where playing a human makes about as much sense as a Qunari Herald of Andraste. Maybe a dwarvencentric or elvencentric plot.
That would be ballsy and I'd respect them for it.
Not if they actually want to sell copies.I wonder if they'd ever make a set up for a game where playing a human makes about as much sense as a Qunari Herald of Andraste. Maybe a dwarvencentric or elvencentric plot.
That would be ballsy and I'd respect them for it.
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Not if they actually want to sell copies.
Morrowind says you're wrong.
yupMorrowind says you're wrong.
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The Empire is still there to keep it human related. If the only presence in Vvardenfell were the Dunmer...shivers. Part of why the Empire of Man, or something close enough must continue.
Well yeah. The Qunari are still there in DA:I through Iron Bull and the Ben-Hassrath if you recruit them. So why would we assume the influence of human nations wouldn't be felt if a game revolved around non-human lore?
The story tried, but until the very last minute, they treat you like a citizen of the Empire. Humanish. If I'll be treated human, might as well be human.Well yeah. The Qunari are still there in DA:I through Iron Bull and the Ben-Hassrath if you recruit them. So why would we assume the influence of human nations wouldn't be felt if a game revolved around non-human lore?
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The story tried, but until the very last minute, they treat you like a citizen of the Empire. Humanish. If I'll be treated human, might as well be human.
What? Nah. PC was Nerevarine, Hortator, ect. The promo player character was some sort of Dunmer warrior-mage hybrid. You were born in Cyrodiil, but Morrowind really pushed you to play a Dark Elf 'returning to save your ancestral homeland'.
Whereas in DA:I you're the Herald of Andraste. Why not the Chosen of the Stone or some ****?
My first play through was a dwarf warrior on normal with cass romanced.
Like I said, very last minute, in the end, it weakened Morrowind and forced more Imperial authority.What? Nah. PC was Nerevarine, Hortator, ect. The promo player character was some sort of Dunmer warrior-mage hybrid. You were born in Cyrodiil, but Morrowind really pushed you to play a Dark Elf 'returning to save your ancestral homeland'.
Whereas in DA:I you're the Herald of Andraste. Why not the Chosen of the Stone or some ****?
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Like I said, very last minute, in the end, it weakened Morrowind and forced more Imperial authority.
You're remembering Morrowind wrong. You do a couple of missions as a spy. Then you get sent to talk to a Dunmer tribe in the ash wastes whose soothsayer recognizes you as the reincarnation of a long dead general-king prophesied to save their nation. That's not even 1/3 into the game.
As for the Imperial authority part. It's not so much Imperial authority as it is impending disaster.
Morrowind - Red Year
Oblivion - The Great War
Skyrim - Some bad **** is probably planned too
The world is better off without the Empire.
Skyrim is the seat of Humanity and it is the power that will reach its apex 
agreed... they left hammerfell to fend for itself...The world is better off without the Empire.
Skyrim is the seat of Humanity and it is the power that will reach its apex
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agreed... they left hammerfell to fend for itself...
They actually saved Hammerfell, by formally releasing it from the Empire and then giving them 'unofficial aid'. If the Empire hadn't cut them lose Hammerfell would have been subject to any treaty agreed upon between the Dominion and the Empire.
and then giving them 'unofficial aid'
I'll need citations on that bit.
In multiple playthroughs of Skyrim and its expansion i have never ONCE heard of that.
They actually saved Hammerfell, by formally releasing it from the Empire and then giving them 'unofficial aid'. If the Empire hadn't cut them lose Hammerfell would have been subject to any treaty agreed upon between the Dominion and the Empire.
That's an fancy way to put it. For what I remember, the empire tried to give redguard lands to the elves, and when that happened, our desert friends gave the imperials the middle finger and walked away.
tch yeah imp aide for us redguards helpedThey actually saved Hammerfell, by formally releasing it from the Empire and then giving them 'unofficial aid'. If the Empire hadn't cut them lose Hammerfell would have been subject to any treaty agreed upon between the Dominion and the Empire.
cloest i found of it was a book in some dungeonI'll need citations on that bit.
In multiple playthroughs of Skyrim and its expansion i have never ONCE heard of that.
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I'll need citations on that bit.
In multiple playthroughs of Skyrim and its expansion i have never ONCE heard of that.
It's a book. Can't remember off top.
That's an fancy way to put it. For what I remember, the empire tried to give redguard lands to the elves, and when that happened, our desert friends gave the imperials the middle finger and walked away.
Quite the opposite. The elves wanted southern Hammerfell. The Empire said "No". They went to war. It ended in a stalemate with a fractured Empire. Instead of fulfilling their treaty with the Dominion they released Hammerfell from the Empire and "discharged" all the Legionaires that wanted to help fight the Dominion allowing them to disobey orders. They also got to keep all that Imperial gear while they fought the Dominon.
still call bull the imps should have fought the dominion til the last man/mer.. you dont leave allies in the sand(ideally) the redguards fought for them we deserved moreIt's a book. Can't remember off top.
Quite the opposite. The elves wanted southern Hammerfell. The Empire said "No". They went to war. It ended in a stalemate with a fractured Empire. Instead of fulfilling their treaty with the Dominion they released Hammerfell from the Empire and "discharged" all the Legionaires that wanted to help fight the Dominion allowing them to disobey orders. They also got to keep all that Imperial gear while they fought the Dominon.
It's a book. Can't remember off top.
If you mean the book "The Great War" And it's epilogue in which it mentions Hammerfell's repulsion of the Dominion the imperial author mentions that the Redguards should be thankful that the Imperial counterattacks in Cyrodil bogged down reinforcements that would have gone to Hammerfell.
Is that the "assistance" you are recalling?
If so its a very...subject sort no?
We're never gonna get back to Cassandra are we? 
All I'm going to say on Skyrim and the Stormcloaks, is I wrote the book on the subject. Literally.
http://colonelkillab...oak-bible-index
You want to know a thing or two on Skyrim's civil war, the real deal, then read that.
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If you mean the book "The Great War" And it's epilogue in which it mentions Hammerfell's repulsion of the Dominion the imperial author mentions that the Redguards should be thankful that the Imperial counterattacks in Cyrodil bogged down reinforcements that would have gone to Hammerfell.
Is that the "assistance" you are recalling?
If so its a very...subject sort no?
Not saying it isn't biased. But it's the only written account of the Great War we've got as far as I remember. It's up to you to discern what's the truth and what isn't. If there wasn't some truth in there he couldn't have pulled it out of his ass.
Quite the opposite. The elves wanted southern Hammerfell. The Empire said "No". They went to war. It ended in a stalemate with a fractured Empire. Instead of fulfilling their treaty with the Dominion they released Hammerfell from the Empire and "discharged" all the Legionaires that wanted to help fight the Dominion allowing them to disobey orders. They also got to keep all that Imperial gear while they fought the Dominon.
At first they said no, then the war started and ended, and then Titus signed the treaties, and then they said YES. The redguards had none of it and left the empire rather then give up their lands. There was no "discharge". The redguard angrily left the imperials while they tried to save face with the Thalmor.
was it wrong that i put the emperor at the door of the empires main baseAt first they said no, then the war started and ended, and then Titus signed the treaties, and then they said YES. The redguards had none of it and left the empire rather then give up their lands. There was no "discharge". The redguard angrily left the imperials while they tried to save face with the Thalmor.
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