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[Mistic]

I'll confess, I once trolled someone with this one time. They were one of those people just a tad too invested in their favored LI and were making some sort of argument that Tali(?) loved their Shepard in the bestest most sincere way of True Love for the Individual because Paragon Shepard was the knight in shining armor blah blah blah, and I brought up the counterpoint of a Renegade Shepard (who they had already said they despised) and rubbed in their face how Tali would say nearly all the same things to a cruel xenophobic ******* who regularly berated her so long as he was briefly nice to her and didn't expose her father.

 

I think I broke their mental image of Tali as someone with good taste.

 

Since I'm a fervent admirer of the theory of many worlds, and Bioware provides many worlds indeed with different protagonists, I rationalize it as characters showing different sides to them. Even the order of missions can affect the way a character can be portrayed even after saying the same lines.

 

Even with its limitations, DA2 friendship-rivalry system was a nice experiment to allow at least two different kinds of approach. I liked the subtle changes, that were canon in this case. I think some people got confused with that, though. I get the feeling rivalry was misunderstood.

 

Wonder what will happen in DA:I. I'd like more variety than just: a) a straight line to the goal choose the righ answers to get the good ending. Not only with Cassandra, but with everyone else. I admit that when I play these games I'm not playing as myself, but creating stories about other people. I'm the director, but a director can't work well without good actors and a good script. That is for Bioware to provide.

[Dr. Doctor]

One thing that I really liked about DA2 is that it really gave you the impression that the party members had known each other for years. That really made the romance arcs feel much more organic to me.

I actually found that Rivalmance made some of the romance arcs better. The playthrough that I rivalmanced Merrill had a Dalish Warden, and it gave the impression that she was trying to restore the Eluvian to figure out a way to save her friend. Hawke's side of the relationship was him realizing that he cares about Merrill and doesn't want to see her hurt if her attempts to fix the mirror backfired.

[Dean_the_Young]

Since I'm a fervent admirer of the theory of many worlds, and Bioware provides many worlds indeed with different protagonists, I rationalize it as characters showing different sides to them. Even the order of missions can affect the way a character can be portrayed even after saying the same lines.

 

Even with its limitations, DA2 friendship-rivalry system was a nice experiment to allow at least two different kinds of approach. I liked the subtle changes, that were canon in this case. I think some people got confused with that, though. I get the feeling rivalry was misunderstood.

 

Wonder what will happen in DA:I. I'd like more variety than just: a) a straight line to the goal choose the righ answers to get the good ending. Not only with Cassandra, but with everyone else. I admit that when I play these games I'm not playing as myself, but creating stories about other people. I'm the director, but a director can't work well without good actors and a good script. That is for Bioware to provide.

 

I adored the Friendship/Rivalry system in DA2, not least because Rivalry was often the 'fix yourself' option to challenge the flaws of the other person. Friendship was fine and dandy if you liked them as the characters as they were and wanted to continue on their path with a sympathetic supporter. But a good part of the companion cast was that they were all flawed individuals, and while no one likes to be confronted with their flaws the rivalry path in many respects was challenging the person to try and change them for the better. Isabella is confronted with responsibility and not running away from her own actions. Merrill's pride and reckless arrogance of her own abilities. Fenris's PTSD. And so on.

 

Some people despised the idea of their waifu's being in rivalmances, but personally I thought it was a welcome change that there could be a romance between non-like-minded individuals.

[Inquisitor Julianos]

Cassandra will just "Take her Balls out of Her Purse" and Nut Up when **** gets terrible. she also seems from the 30minute trailer when Varic, Vivienne, and Cassandra follow the Inquisitor back to the village they decided to abandon, Varric said "what? dont want to see your own handywork?" and when he was on the ground, Cass Gave him a Shoulder touch and an actual Soft Smile. i see her as someone who cares about others once she gets to know them, but keeps the Wall up for unknowns.

[HiroVoid]

I adored the Friendship/Rivalry system in DA2, not least because Rivalry was often the 'fix yourself' option to challenge the flaws of the other person. Friendship was fine and dandy if you liked them as the characters as they were and wanted to continue on their path with a sympathetic supporter. But a good part of the companion cast was that they were all flawed individuals, and while no one likes to be confronted with their flaws the rivalry path in many respects was challenging the person to try and change them for the better. Isabella is confronted with responsibility and not running away from her own actions. Merrill's pride and reckless arrogance of her own abilities. Fenris's PTSD. And so on.

 

Some people despised the idea of their waifu's being in rivalmances, but personally I thought it was a welcome change that there could be a romance between non-like-minded individuals.

I know there was a lot of talks about how a rivalmance with Anders was abusive, but I admittedly thought there was a bit of admirability in a rivalship with Anders due to it showing how he would actually try to fight against Justice taking control of him.

[Dean_the_Young]

I know there was a lot of talks about how a rivalmance with Anders was abusive, but I admittedly thought there was a bit of admirability in a rivalship with Anders due to it showing how he would actually try to fight against Justice taking control of him.

 

And Merrill. While I tended to avoid the Merrill fan thread, I know someone who has pretty much deemed the act of rivaling Merrill a moral failing, and rivalmancing even worse.

[Hellion Rex]

And Merrill. While I tended to avoid the Merrill fan thread, I know someone who has pretty much deemed the act of rivaling Merrill a moral failing, and rivalmancing even worse.

Am I thinking of whom you are thinking?

[Giggles_Manically]

And Merrill. While I tended to avoid the Merrill fan thread, I know someone who has pretty much deemed the act of rivaling Merrill a moral failing, and rivalmancing even worse.

Same person who also wrote about how a Male Hawke romancing her was tantamount to rape?

[Hellion Rex]

Same person who also wrote about how a Male Hawke romancing her was tantamount to rape?

O___O

 

I must have missed that one.

[In Exile]

Same person who also wrote about how a Male Hawke romancing her was tantamount to rape?

 

...What? This is a real thing? 

[Giggles_Manically]

Ah so you missed the loud and fanatic one of which we do not speak?

Shame.

 

Quite amusing in its own disturbed way.

[In Exile]

So... anyway, back to Cassandra. 

 

Will we get an explanation for all the little hearts on her armour? That's clearly the most pressing question. 

[Hellion Rex]

So... anyway, back to Cassandra. 

 

Will we get an explanation for all the little hearts on her armour? That's clearly the most pressing question. 

Does it really need an explanation?

[In Exile]

Does it really need an explanation?

 

Clearly. One does not simply have engraved hearts on their armour. I expect a lengthy backstory that arcs back to several formative aspects of Cass life, narrated by Varric. Something like "No ****, there I was ..." 

[stuffystuffs]

So... anyway, back to Cassandra. 

 

Will we get an explanation for all the little hearts on her armour? That's clearly the most pressing question. 

 

What hearts?

 

I'm missing something.

[Mistic]

What hearts?

 

I'm missing something.

 

Check the armor on her shoulders:

Spoiler

[stuffystuffs]

Oh I was looking for big red hearts

 

I think it's just a popular design pattern.

[Dr. Doctor]

I kind of get the impression that DA2 sort of proved to Varric that Cassandra isn't out for war or vengeance, she just wants to stop the mess that started in Kirkwall before more people get hurt.

I don't think that the Inquisitor's relationship with Varric is going to be as "buddy buddy" as the one he had with Hawke, at least not at first. He's more of a man of the people, and based on the Crestwood decision he's not too big on "the ends justify the means".

[Wulfram]

According to Wikipedia what we consider the heart shape didn't start to be considered as a sign of love until the 14th century or so.  They could just be water lilies.

[SerCambria358]

http://www.deviantar...ident-452224810

Hope we see small moments like this in game

[Hanako Ikezawa]

DHMG better back off if he knows what's good for him.

[mlgumm]

Damn you! We don't even know how they'll interact, and now I'm shipping them like crazy. You monsters.

[In Exile]

According to Wikipedia what we consider the heart shape didn't start to be considered as a sign of love until the 14th century or so.  They could just be water lilies.

 

DAs never really tried to depart from our common conventions like that. 

[Former_Fiend]

So I finally found who was making all those images of Cassandra being rescued, one XNAMASSE.

 

 

That is the only one Cassandra's in that doesn't feature her being rescued, except for one where she's just hanging with Varric.

[Wolfen09]

So I finally found who was making all those images of Cassandra being rescued, one XNAMASSE.

 

 

That is the only one Cassandra's in that doesn't feature her being rescued, except for one where she's just hanging with Varric.

 

 

so when do we begin the exalted march to stop such heresy?!