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Nononononono, this one I actually mean. Like zero character growth. "I'm magic and it makes life sad," is not a character. Except for crazies, she's the poster child for everything that's wrong with mages. 

 

That's a big part of character. It defines a real problem in the setting,and distinguishes it, from, say, D&D. That magic is a pain in the ass. edit: But it helps when it's embodied like this. That's the character part.



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It's also a big part of boring. Bethany can symbolize whatever she wants, just like random magi girl in Origins could; it does not make her interesting to me. Especially when she stays static the entire story. Carver has growth. Carver matures. Carvers comes within his own and doesn't bend over backwards when I whimper. That is why I could never play rogue or warrior after the first time I played them. Did Bethany more service by letting her die an honorable death. 



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Even speaking as a Carver fan, I think Bethany's well within her rights to feel the way she does? She wants to be normal, and she doesn't think she's ever going to have that as a mage (and especially not as a Warden).

Like, yeah. Having demons dipping into your brain and people being terrified of you sucks ass.

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It's also a big part of boring. Bethany can symbolize whatever she wants, just like random magi girl in Origins could; it does not make her interesting to me. Especially when she stays static the entire story. Carver has growth. Carver matures. Carvers comes within his own and doesn't bend over backwards when I whimper. That is why I could never play rogue or warrior after the first time I played them. Did Bethany more service by letting her die an honorable death. 

 

Ah. not "interesting to you". Which is totally cool.

 

But you generalized at first, as if she was boring in general. She has her fans.



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^Pfffft dunno what you're talkin' about, Carver's probably my favorite DA character. Maybe. He's pretty far up the list, at any rate.

I think she'd like them both, for different reasons.

She'd talk shop with Carver, philosophy with Beth.

Only thing Carver was good for was making fun of him for laughs. I'm quite honestly astonished that anyone actually liked that whiny ******.



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Only thing Carver was good for was making fun of him for laughs. I'm quite honestly astonished that anyone actually liked that whiny ******.

 

I liked him..

 

But probably because I see a little Carver in myself. And my brother's a ******.



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Even speaking as a Carver fan, I think Bethany's well within her rights to feel the way she does? She wants to be normal, and she doesn't think she's ever going to have that as a mage (and especially not as a Warden).

Like, yeah. Having demons dipping into your brain and people being terrified of you sucks ass.

Doesn't stop her from being boring either. We're all entitled to be boring. But that's all you'll ever be if that's all you strive for. Bethany refuses to change at all. You can regret having magic and still expand as a character. 

 

Ah. not "interesting to you". Which is totally cool.

 

But you generalized at first, as if she was boring in general. She has her fans.

That really doesn't mean anything. Everybody has fans. I've met a lot of people, and even her fans can admit she's boring. Some people like her being static. Good for them. Personally I think a person who goes from 18-28 should do something besides mope, but that's just me. 



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Doesn't stop her from being boring either. We're all entitled to be boring. But that's all you'll ever be if that's all you strive for. Bethany refuses to change at all. You can regret having magic and still expand as a character. 

 

That really doesn't mean anything. Everybody has fans. I've met a lot of people, and even her fans can admit she's boring. Some people like her being static. Good for them. Personally I think a person who goes from 18-28 should do something besides mope, but that's just me. 

 

I don't like her for being "static". I like her because she's one of only two mages that instills confidence in Kirkwall. The other is Feynriel. I have to work through more destructive issues with the rest (feynriel actually has the scariest power, but he doesn't scare me at all). 



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Only thing Carver was good for was making fun of him for laughs. I'm quite honestly astonished that anyone actually liked that whiny ******.


Pfff, I thought he was perfect. I just wanted to pinch his cheeks and rest his grumpy head on my bosom like IT'S ALL GONNA BE OKAY, LITTLE MAN.

Doesn't stop her from being boring either. We're all entitled to be boring. But that's all you'll ever be if that's all you strive for. Bethany refuses to change at all. You can regret having magic and still expand as a character.


Eh, that's fair. Given that I'm a fairly generic, boring "nice" person I gotta stand up for us nondescripts.
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Making Bethany a warden is very interesting. I love Bethany, but she's kind of boring because she doesn't want to leave Hawke's shadow. So warden Bethany is 10 times better than circle Bethany.

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Making Bethany a warden is very interesting. I love Bethany, but she's kind of boring because she doesn't want to leave Hawke's shadow. So warden Bethany is 10 times better than circle Bethany.

 

Warden Bethany is like my Dalish. Both miserable. Made me hate the Wardens forever. lol


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Making Bethany a warden is very interesting. I love Bethany, but she's kind of boring because she doesn't want to leave Hawke's shadow. So warden Bethany is 10 times better than circle Bethany.


Eh, I don't know that she's better. Just more dynamic as a character. I prefer her with the Wardens for that reason.

Warden Bethany is like my Dalish. Both miserable. Made me hate the Wardens forever. lol


My Dalish hated being a Warden, too. Threw herself on the Archdemon first chance she got.
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Warden Bethany is like my Dalish. Both miserable. Made me hate the Wardens forever. lol


I only made her a warden one time, because I want her to live more than 30 years!!!!

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Making Bethany a warden is very interesting. I love Bethany, but she's kind of boring because she doesn't want to leave Hawke's shadow. So warden Bethany is 10 times better than circle Bethany.

I prefer Circle Bethany. At least she's happy and helping others. She stays the same as before, but she's helping people with it. Warden Bethany's like she was before but ten times more depressed. 

 

Also, Cassandra. 


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Bethany > Carver, FYI.

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I prefer Circle Bethany. At least she's happy and helping others. She stays the same as before, but she's helping people with it. Warden Bethany's like she was before but ten times more depressed.

Also, Cassandra.


Oh just think of Cassandra and Bethany together in banter! I think Cassandra will rip Bethany a new one. But then again, Bethany would be totally different away from her brother care.

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Both Bethany and Carver are boring as hell.



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Traitors to the Imperium don't have the right to state their opinions. 



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Oh just think of Cassandra and Bethany together in banter! I think Cassandra will rip Bethany a new one. But then again, Bethany would be totally different away from her brother care.


Why would Cassandra be hostile to Bethany? Bethany goes out of her way to be kind to people.

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Bethany laughed at every joke my Hawke made so she is alright in my book.....yes thats a big deal.


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Pfff, I thought he was perfect. I just wanted to pinch his cheeks and rest his grumpy head on my bosom like IT'S ALL GONNA BE OKAY, LITTLE MAN.

 

Aaaaah, now it makes sense. I was amazed when I learned that people actually liked Loghain too after a friend of mine showed me her book about him. Though after some time I got used to that idea and it made sense.

 

Carver however... I guess it's the same as why people liked Merril, myself included, despite her being such a complete moron. People like socially awkward outcasts. Something about them... saving them from their lonely existence is appealing.



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I liked him..

 

But probably because I see a little Carver in myself. And my brother's a ******.

Lol my little brother's a twit just like Carver, but in a different way. There may be biases at work here.

 

Am I the only one not at all impressed with the idea of Cassandra interacting with ANY of the other DA 2 cast besides Varric? The banter would be underwhelming if you ask me.

 

At best, Fenris and Cass could talk about hunting apostates or something.



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Carver however... I guess it's the same as why people liked Merril, myself included, despite her being such a complete moron. People like socially awkward outcasts. Something about them... saving them from their lonely existence is appealing.

I like Carver and hate Merrill. Your opinion is invalid. Being an ass and being stupid are too different thing. 



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Cassandra/Isabella would be good.

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Cassandra/Isabella would be good.

The number of  guy between the two of them is like 100000002 , with 2 being Cass's tally. would be interesting to see them discussing that.


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