Already have a few of those. At least comparable anyway. Could be worse. Could be romancing Solas.
Cassandra Pentaghast - Walking Tall
#21251
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 02:02
#21252
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 02:04
Already have a few of those. At least comparable anyway. Could be worse. Could be romancing Solas.
Ain't it the truth. He did them so dirty.
#21253
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 02:08
So...if we didn't know it already. Cassandra is the fraking MVP of the game.
I got some advice on how to play the game from a friend, given that I was complaining about the lack of tactical options...so I took said advice with Cassandra and then the game has got significantly easier. Sticking her to the biggest, baddest enemy on the map like white on rice, and then watching her take the damage, get up, grimace, and kick its butt...it is awesome and truly glorious to behold.
#21254
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 03:11
Guest_StreetMagic_*
So...if we didn't know it already. Cassandra is the fraking MVP of the game.
I got some advice on how to play the game from a friend, given that I was complaining about the lack of tactical options...so I took said advice with Cassandra and then the game has got significantly easier. Sticking her to the biggest, baddest enemy on the map like white on rice, and then watching her take the damage, get up, grimace, and kick its butt...it is awesome and truly glorious to behold.
After awhile Blackwall is the better tank. But he's boring. And she's more versatile than either Blackwall or Bull.
Stars and Stripes/Clint going at it again? Keep the photos coming Rob, the Qunari/Cass acceptance is inevitable.
I might've already accepted it, if it wasn't so hamfisted and had a real story to it. This kind of pairing is a significant development for Cass, yet it's treated a little too casually (the Qunari are treated too casually, period). In any other medium, these bizarre pairings take awhile to delve into (think Jadzia and Worf).. but they won't bother with it here. Nor can they. Because that's not what the story is about. It's mostly about the Chantry and mages. Trying to make it about anything else comes off as sloppy and forced (this might apply to the whole Inquisitor role in general).
So, no.. acceptance is not inevitable. ![]()
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#21255
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 03:54
Good point. The inquisitor is a bit forced already without making this Andrastian chosen one that they actually follow the orders of a qunari. It's incredibly forced.
#21256
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 04:20
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#21257
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 04:38
It just so happens that Cassandra LOVES Christmas.

We were feeling festive.
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#21258
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 06:18
ROFLMFAO
Oh my god dude you are way too easy. You said they were synonyms to explain why you used one incorrectly, and you were wrong, own it, lol. And if you don't like what I say in the thread, too ****** bad. Get over yourself, kid.
Anyway, to the rest of the thread, I'll combat the same old qunari grossness with some Cass cuties:
http://i1.minus.com/jleKGrh1zi8R8.bmp
http://i3.minus.com/jbth3Nzj2CgMKT.bmp
http://i5.minus.com/jV8TIog5Ly3Ho.bmp
"You said they were synonyms to explain why you used one incorrectly" no, and that makes no sense, at least you are consistent with your daffiness.
#21259
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 06:20
"You said they were synonyms to explain why you used one incorrectly" no, and that makes no sense, at least you are consistent with your daffiness.

It does if you have reading comprehension, but I'm not your teacher, so I don't have time to go back to gradeschool on your ass again.
- Obvious_Shining aime ceci
#21260
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 06:21
/Comes into thread
/sees this argument is still going on even after over twelve hours.
I'll just grab my coat...
#21261
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 06:35
It does if you have reading comprehension, but I'm not your teacher, so I don't have time to go back to gradeschool on your ass again.
Schooled? ******? Look at that vernacular, so eloquent as to be comparable to the vd that you say you adore. No, this does not make any sense "You said they were synonyms to explain why you used one incorrectly." Daffiness only makes snese to you Daffys.
#21262
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 06:36
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Hey you two, go watch Christmas Story. I'm sure it's running on a marathon.... somewhere.
Cheer up ![]()
#21263
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 06:50
Hey you two, go watch Christmas Story. I'm sure it's running on a marathon.... somewhere.
Cheer up
I'm cheer as ****, lol, this butthurt is amusing. Anyway I won't retaliate so he can be happy with himself. No one cares.
#21264
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 06:56
Though I would like to point out I said "Go back to gradeschool" not "schooled" LOL.
That's it, done talking with him, promise.
#21265
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 09:52
*cough* Mass Effect *cough* Liara *cough*
Anyone got a cough drop?
Really wish they'd give the Inquisitor one more game so they could do this, but it's not happening. Though, they did originally plan on making Hawke inquisitor apparently until they saw the public opinion of him.
Where did you hear this? I know there was an expansion to DA2 in the works, but Bioware has made it clear that they will never repeat protagonists across DA titles.
After awhile Blackwall is the better tank. But he's boring. And she's more versatile than either Blackwall or Bull.
I might've already accepted it, if it wasn't so hamfisted and had a real story to it. This kind of pairing is a significant development for Cass, yet it's treated a little too casually (the Qunari are treated too casually, period). In any other medium, these bizarre pairings take awhile to delve into (think Jadzia and Worf).. but they won't bother with it here. Nor can they. Because that's not what the story is about. It's mostly about the Chantry and mages. Trying to make it about anything else comes off as sloppy and forced (this might apply to the whole Inquisitor role in general).
So, no.. acceptance is not inevitable.
How is it significant development for Cassandra? You have to look at it from the perspective of someone from Thedas, not the real world. There's no reason for there to be any awkwardness with multi racial couples in Thedas. If the Qunari inquisitor were of the Qun, perhaps that would present a problem but even then there would be no opportunity to express interest in her as 1. He can't deviate from his role in the Qun, therefore no inquisitor and 2. As far as I'm aware Qunari who follow the Qun do not love.
#21266
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 10:02
Where did you hear this? I know there was an expansion to DA2 in the works, but Bioware has made it clear that they will never repeat protagonists across DA titles.
How is it significant development for Cassandra? You have to look at it from the perspective of someone from Thedas, not the real world. There's no reason for there to be any awkwardness with multi racial couples in Thedas. If the Qunari inquisitor were of the Qun, perhaps that would present a problem but even then there would be no opportunity to express interest in her as 1. He can't deviate from his role in the Qun, therefore no inquisitor and 2. As far as I'm aware Qunari who follow the Qun do not love.
Except from the point of view of people from Thedas, multi-racial relationships are reviled. Elves are reviled, and human/elf relationships tend to be ostracized by both peoples.
I get the impression human/dwarf relationships are extremely rare. Not sure about ostracized, but I don't think they're celebrated. In addition, human/dwarf children are extremely hard to conceive.
Not sure about Qunari/human, but at the least it should be a topic for conversation, not just a "no biggie" not even worthy of mention.
#21267
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 10:04
Where did you hear this? I know there was an expansion to DA2 in the works, but Bioware has made it clear that they will never repeat protagonists across DA titles.
How is it significant development for Cassandra? You have to look at it from the perspective of someone from Thedas, not the real world. There's no reason for there to be any awkwardness with multi racial couples in Thedas. If the Qunari inquisitor were of the Qun, perhaps that would present a problem but even then there would be no opportunity to express interest in her as 1. He can't deviate from his role in the Qun, therefore no inquisitor and 2. As far as I'm aware Qunari who follow the Qun do not love.
It isn't what matters from the Qun's perspective that's important, so much as White Thedas. They don't see Tal Vashoth, and Qunari, which isn't even a name to the race as we know, not specifically. To them, all they see is the race, and they made it pretty clear that the chantry sees them as the most heinous of heathens.
The fact that you're not of the Qun would be inconsequential to them. And this is the right hand of the divine, candidate for the divine. Something more should be said for sure, and if they say that no one cares in thedas then I'd accept it, but it would be incredibly lazy, inconsistent and unrealistic, from my perspective.
As for where I heard that from, it was somewhere here actually, but don't ask me to find it, lol. Just treat it as a rumor since I can't give you the source.
#21268
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 10:05
Except from the point of view of people from Thedas, multi-racial relationships are reviled. Elves are reviled, and human/elf relationships tend to be ostracized by both peoples.
I get the impression human/dwarf relationships are extremely rare. Not sure about ostracized, but I don't think they're celebrated. In addition, human/dwarf children are extremely hard to conceive.
Not sure about Qunari/human, but at the least it should be a topic for conversation, not just a "no biggie" not even worthy of mention.
That's only in certain social settings, not everywhere. And ultimately it comes down to the person. Cassandra is clearly not opposed to multi racial relationships.
It isn't what matters from the Qun's perspective that's important, so much as White Thedas. They don't see Tal Vashoth, and Qunari, which isn't even a name to the race as we know, not specifically. To them, all they see is the race, and they made it pretty clear that the chantry sees them as the most heinous of heathens.
The fact that you're not of the Qun would be inconsequential to them. And this is the right hand of the divine, candidate for the divine. Something more should be said for sure, and if they say that no one cares in thedas then I'd accept it, but it would be incredibly lazy, inconsistent and unrealistic, from my perspective.
As for where I heard that from, it was somewhere here actually, but don't ask me to find it, lol. Just treat it as a rumor since I can't give you the source.
As I said, it ultimately depends on the person. You act as if Cassandra must hold these beliefs simply because they are common among chantry folk. That clearly isn't the case. You can already see she isn't content with the norm by her ambitions for changing certain things within the Chantry.
#21269
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 10:15
That's only in certain social settings, not everywhere. And ultimately it comes down to the person. Cassandra is clearly not opposed to multi racial relationships.
As I said, it ultimately depends on the person. You act as if Cassandra must hold these beliefs simply because they are common among chantry folk. That clearly isn't the case. You can already see she isn't content with the norm by her ambitions for changing certain things within the Chantry.
And I can totally buy that. But it STILL should be addressed in some way, either by the couple themselves, but at least others. The fact that it isn't is incredibly lazy writing.
I mean, if you had an interracial couple in the 1910s, even if the couple themselves didn't care, you'd think they'd at least have a conversation about the challenges they would face. And other people would DEFINITELY react to that situation.
I don't think the supposition that absolutely no one would GAF about an interracial relationship to the point of not even talking about it is supported in the lore.
#21270
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 10:20
Are we back on the subject of them handwaving the Cass romance to allow Qunari into it?
#21271
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 10:22
Are we back on the subject of them handwaving the Cass romance to allow Qunari into it?
Kind of, but I also think we are talking about Cass with elves and dwarves as well. Elf/human relationships are definitely reviled, and dwarf/human, I dunno, but I get the sense it's not "no biggie."
#21272
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 10:46
As I said, it ultimately depends on the person. You act as if Cassandra must hold these beliefs simply because they are common among chantry folk. That clearly isn't the case. You can already see she isn't content with the norm by her ambitions for changing certain things within the Chantry.
That's a rather large assumption to make off of something as simple as slightly idealistic political views. And she already made it pretty clear to bull that she's not really a qunari gal.
Does she have to hold their views? No, but that doesn't tell us much. She doesn't have to do a lot of things. Doesn't mean that it's likely that she's okay with banging a giant cow with hind legs.
#21273
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 11:34
That's a rather large assumption to make off of something as simple as slightly idealistic political views. And she already made it pretty clear to bull that she's not really a qunari gal.
Does she have to hold their views? No, but that doesn't tell us much. She doesn't have to do a lot of things. Doesn't mean that it's likely that she's okay with banging a giant cow with hind legs.
Yeah, except for this being the exact opposite of reality.
I don't understand why we're still having this discussion. Whether you like it or not, Cass, Blackwall, Sera, etc. are all willing to date outside their race. It's not OOC because you don't like the possibility that it could maybe possibly perhaps be happening in someone else's game.
If you're looking for characters who actually are concerned with race, look at Solas and Cullen.
*shrug*
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#21274
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 11:37
Yeah, except for this being the exact opposite of reality.
I don't understand why we're still having this discussion. Whether you like it or not, Cass, Blackwall, Sera, etc. are all willing to date outside their race. It's not OOC because you don't like the possibility that it could maybe possibly perhaps be happening in someone else's game.
If you're looking for characters who actually are concerned with race, look at Solas and Cullen.
*shrug*
This. Why is it such a big deal that Cass could fall in love with an elf/dwarf/qunari? She never had any indications that she hated other races so why do you think she'd be racist now? At least Cullen showed dislike of dwarves and qunari before and Solas makes sense for story reasons. Why are people so against Cass being with other reasons. Those people must have sad and pathetic lives to complain that Cass isn't racist.
- Cespar et vertigomez aiment ceci
#21275
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 25 décembre 2014 - 11:38
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Yeah, except for this being the exact opposite of reality.
I don't understand why we're still having this discussion. Whether you like it or not, Cass, Blackwall, Sera, etc. are all willing to date outside their race. It's not OOC because you don't like the possibility that it could maybe possibly perhaps be happening in someone else's game.
If you're looking for characters who actually are concerned with race, look at Solas and Cullen.
*shrug*
It still needs to not be treated casually. Like drinking a cup of tea in the morning. And if they are so openminded and living a state of brotherhood and unity, then that in itself is worth talking about too. It's unique and significant.
At least with a mage, for example, you can glean from a lot of background on how Cass is becoming more openminded. There's a lot of material for story here, both indirect and directly. While the whole game itself is about Chantry and mage coexistence, making the relationship a symbolic step forward on a bigger issue.
I think Iron Bull and Dorian's relationship plays out better on this racial level, because these two in fact are about struggling with their origins.. and what better way to show they're evolving by hooking up.
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