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That's a rather large assumption to make off of something as simple as slightly idealistic political views. And she already made it pretty clear to bull that she's not really a qunari gal.

 

Alternatively, she's just not into Iron Bull. Food for thought.



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Yeah, except for this being the exact opposite of reality.

Are you serious? Lol you must live in a very nice place then, because where I'm from, interracial relationships, while not uncommon, still comes with people giving you "the eye". You seriously think no one would say a single word about your union? That Cassandra wouldn't have to defend it, especially if she's to be Divine?

 

All I'm saying is it seems rather forced. This isn't just our version of interracial relationships, this is REAL interracial relationships. White and asian and white with black, that's all bullshit. We're all one race, and that's human. A Qunari is a whole entire different thing. Humans wouldn't take that lightly, judging from their elf treatment.



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Alternatively, she's just not into Iron Bull. Food for thought.

"Do you see these horns?"

 

"I... see them..."

 

Sounds like more than the Bull to me. Sorry, but I find it to be a stretch, like most of the qunari player character business. Just my opinion.



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I happen to be mixed race myself (Asian/White). and love the themes elsewhere..but even I think it's stupid the way it's done here. There's a difference between getting along, and saying race doesn't matter at all.



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I happen to be mixed race myself (Asian/White). and love the themes elsewhere..but even I think it's stupid the way it's done here. There's a difference between getting along, and saying race doesn't matter at all.

Same. I'm black/white.



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"Do you see these horns?"

 

"I... see them..."

 

Sounds like more than the Bull to me. Sorry, but I find it to be a stretch, like most of the qunari player character business. Just my opinion.

 

That's like saying a girl not liking one dude's beard means she must find all dudes with beards to be unattractive. 

 

Bull doesn't tickle her fancy. The Qunari Inquisitor, however, might.


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It still needs to not be treated casually. Like drinking a cup of tea in the morning. And if they are so openminded and living a state of brotherhood and unity, then that in itself is worth talking about too. It's unique and significant.
 
At least with a mage, for example, you can glean from a lot of background on how Cass is becoming more openminded. There's a lot of material for story here, both indirect and directly. While the whole game itself is about Chantry and mage coexistence, making the relationship a symbolic step forward on a bigger issue.
 
I think Iron Bull and Dorian's relationship plays out better on this racial level, because these two in fact are about struggling with their origins.. and what better way to show they're evolving by hooking up.


See, I'm fine with this. Addressing those differences, discussing them, etc. is all well and good and something I'd love to see more of. I love how, as an elf in DAO, you can call Leliana out on her unintentional prejudices. I love that you can ask Alistair if he's okay with you being a dwarf/elf and his explanation. I love that Fenris and Merrill are surprised that you, a human, would be interested in a relationship with them. I just don't understand people acting like it'd OOC if those relationships happened sans those conversations.

And about a mage being a good fit narratively... everybody takes something different from their playthrough. There's no right or wrong way to do it. Some people swear by the Cousland origin or mage Hawke for their story relevance. Others like the idea of Amell + Hawke + Cullen romance, or rolling a Dalish Warden, romancing Merrill in DA2, and playing yet another Dalish in DAI because they're sort of interconnected with the Eluvians and elven lore and all that.

I think mage + Cassandra makes a great story, but I don't think it's the only great story.

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That's like saying a girl not liking one dude's beard means she must find all dudes with beards to be unattractive. 

 

Bull doesn't tickle her fancy. The Qunari Inquisitor might.

Fair point, I'll give you that. Still, to me there's more making this unlikely than likely. Is it possible? Sure, like just about everything in this setting.

 

At the very least, someone should say something. She's the right hand of the Divine for Andraste's sake. Even Iron Bull makes a big deal about their chosen being a "Horned One" as he puts it.



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Ultimately, the only thing that I find satisifying is just that she's Player centric.

 

And those players are human. Get off on the freaky graphics all you want. It's all the same in the end. :P



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That's like saying a girl not liking one dude's beard means she must find all dudes with beards to be unattractive. 

 

Bull doesn't tickle her fancy. The Qunari Inquisitor, however, might.

No it's really not. Not that this discussion matters, but comparing a giant with horns to a dude with a shaggy beard is insulting to bums everywhere. 



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Are you serious? Lol you must live in a very nice place then, because where I'm from, interracial relationships, while not uncommon, still comes with people giving you "the eye". You seriously think no one would say a single word about your union? That Cassandra wouldn't have to defend it, especially if she's to be Divine?
 
All I'm saying is it seems rather forced. This isn't just our version of interracial relationships, this is REAL interracial relationships. White and asian and white with black, that's all bullshit. We're all one race, and that's human. A Qunari is a whole entire different thing. Humans wouldn't take that lightly, judging from their elf treatment.


I'm not saying Cassandra wouldn't have to defend being in an interracial relationship. I'm saying it's not going to stop her from being in one. Maybe as Divine she'll crack under pressure and give up on the Inquisitor, but as of Inquisition she is totally down. She's willing to face those challenges. She doesn't care that you're not human or that you're a mage.

Qunari may be "a whole different thing", but like elves and dwarves and humans they're a sentient people with worries and hopes and feelings like anybody. Some people can't get past the physical aspect (Cullen, Solas) but some people can (Cassandra!).

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She's willing to face those challenges. 

 

But they're not challenges. It's nothing. That's kind of the point why it sucks.



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I'm not saying Cassandra wouldn't have to defend being in an interracial relationship. I'm saying it's not going to stop her from being in one. Maybe as Divine she'll crack under pressure and give up on the Inquisitor, but as of Inquisition she is totally down. She's willing to face those challenges. She doesn't care that you're not human or that you're a mage.

Qunari may be "a whole different thing", but like elves and dwarves and humans they're a sentient people with worries and hopes and feelings like anybody. Some people can't get past the physical aspect (Cullen, Solas) but some people can (Cassandra!).

Eh, something being sentient doesn't mean you need to bang it. It's not even that Cassandra/Blackwall/Josephine look past it. Most of the time they do their best to just ignore it. It's really unrealistic imo, really shouldn't bother anyone if they don't want to play it, but it's sloppy writing all the same. 



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Eh, something being sentient doesn't mean you need to bang it. It's not even that Cassandra/Blackwall/Josephine look past it. Most of the time they do their best to just ignore it. It's really unrealistic imo, really should bother anyone any if they don't want to play it, but it's sloppy writing all the same. 

 

 

You're right, it shouldn't. I don't know why it does bother.. I should just be living in blissful ignorance, enjoying the game. Not sure wtf is wrong with me. :P



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I'm not saying Cassandra wouldn't have to defend being in an interracial relationship. I'm saying it's not going to stop her from being in one. Maybe as Divine she'll crack under pressure and give up on the Inquisitor, but as of Inquisition she is totally down. She's willing to face those challenges. She doesn't care that you're not human or that you're a mage.

Qunari may be "a whole different thing", but like elves and dwarves and humans they're a sentient people with worries and hopes and feelings like anybody. Some people can't get past the physical aspect (Cullen, Solas) but some people can (Cassandra!).

 

They had to give the qunari players someone, lol. Couldn't stick you off with nobody. Much easier to just make a character be into you as if you were the other races, hence why nobody says anything about that at all, and that's the main reason why I think it's just forced. There aren't any challenges for her to face, it's just accepted.



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Maybe the writers just aren't as hung up on the race thing as some fans are.

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Eh, something being sentient doesn't mean you need to bang it. It's not even that Cassandra/Blackwall/Josephine look past it. Most of the time they do their best to just ignore it. It's really unrealistic imo, really should bother anyone any if they don't want to play it, but it's sloppy writing all the same. 

 

Well, it doesn't really bother me, as in me being mad about it. I just find it odd and rather silly. The qunari option in general is IMO for this setting. Origins would have worked better.



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Maybe the writers just aren't as hung up on the race thing as some fans are.

 

Like most older white liberals. They mean well, but they're way of dealing with things is to handwave issues into meaninglessness.  The postmodern mentality. They have little actual experience with it. People who actually care about race relations confront all the details.


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Maybe the writers just aren't as hung up on the race thing as some fans are.

Anyone who has played the series knows that isn't true. We're not "hung up" on it, it's simply an inconsistency in the writing.



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Wow, people complaining that Cass isn't racist. Guess some people really have no lives if this is what they are arguing for. Now I'm hoping for Gaider to come lay that smackdown on you people. That would be priceless.



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Maybe the writers just aren't as hung up on the race thing as some fans are.

Which explains why they sloppily threw them in at the last minute and consider a few War Table missions as well as Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts as race actually mattering. 

 

Wow, people complaining that Cass isn't racist. Guess some people really have no lives if this is what they are arguing for. Now I'm hoping for Gaider to come lay that smackdown on you people. That would be priceless.

You have no idea what racist means. 


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Wow, people complaining that Cass isn't racist. Guess some people really have no lives if this is what they are arguing for. Now I'm hoping for Gaider to come lay that smackdown on you people. That would be priceless.

 

DURRRRRRR. Yeah, that's what we said! We want her to be racist. DErp.


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DURRRRRRR. Yeah, that's what we said! We want her to be racist. DErp.

Glad you agree. No sarcasm clearly means you're telling the truth.



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Glad you agree. No sarcasm clearly means you're telling the truth.

 

Aren't you even trying to pay attention a little bit? Both me and killabee are mixed race people. It's impossible for us to be as bigoted as you think... since it goes against our entire ****** being.

 

We want to confront the issues. It isn't racist to acknowledge race. Productive discussion (both fictional or nonfictional) comes from talking about it all.. rather than ignoring it and saying everyone's the same.


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