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[Darks1d3]

nvm, original post was just superfluous and pointless since it just reiterated ImaginaryMatter's post.

[Melbella]

(Actually, is it possible to avoid *anybody's* requests for a visit to Shepard's cabin without gumming up the queue for others? If Traynor asks before James, for example, and I never invite Traynor, does that mean I never get the "Invite James" prompt on Shepard's console? Though that still doesn't account for the lack of variety in how those scenes unfold - they should have had more lines that were unique to how Shepard had interacted with each character up to that point.)

The only way I've found to avoid those meet ups is to not read the email. Once you have talked to the specific individual enough times you should get it, regardless of whether you've done any others yet. But you can't pick which one you want to do first if more than 1 has been activated. 

Hope this formats ok....I've been hit with IE 11 bug that doesn't like the quote button.

[rekn2]

I think that's only Dav... er I mean Bob, since he has a degree in omniscience.

you mean omnipotence

[KaiserShep]

you mean omnipotence

Omniheroic. Amirite?

[rekn2]

Omniheroic. Amirite?

david is GOD and he knows it! let The Almighty prove it through asinine arguement!

[CrutchCricket]

It's not a bug; it's a feature.

*cue companion scream*

Wow, so everyone screams like a retard at that point? I thought it was just Ashley. James sounds a little badass when he does it at least.
 

As someone who likes Liara, I agree. I don't see her remaining the Shadow Broker post-ME3. It's understandable during the war that all her agents and all the organizations that deal with the Broker are willing to focus on the war, but post-war there's going to be a lot of chaos - and probably profit - to be had. What happens when her idealism starts conflicting with said profits?

She grows up? Legitimate character development as opposed to "whatever the plot requires"?

She wanted to use the power for good, to help Shepard. Well Shepard may be gone, but there's still plenty more good to be done, even more than before.
 

Why does she have so many romance bugs?

- Import flags appear switched on Mars
- Aethyta thought unromanced Shepard was in a relationship with Liara
- Liara appeared in Shepard's final moments flashback pre-EC (if not a bug, at least an oversight)
- Liara flirted with my unromanced Shepard in the Citadel DLC
- Etc

It's a sign *hint hint.

[CrutchCricket]

- If the asari had revealed the beacon sooner, then it's likely Shepard would never have been sent to retrieve it (that only happened because it was urgent and dangerous), so it would never have activated. EDI flat out tells Liara that revealing the beacon earlier wouldn't have changed a thing because every scientist studying it would have needed Shepard's cipher to comprehend it. Vendetta also said it was programmed to withhold the information for fear of the Reapers learning of the Catalyst's intended use before the Crucible was completed.

You need Shepard's cipher to comprehend it... so you don't send Shepard for it? Him or his Prothean buddy? Help me here.

To say nothing of what others have already mentioned with Shiala. In fact, I'd be surprised if asari black-ops haven't already pried it out of her head. Then there's also the question of how they've been able to get information from it this entire time anyway. Information to jump your civilization forward a few centuries is free but for information about the threat you'll face if you do, you need our version of a secret decoder ring? Not likely.
 

Wasting your time Barquiel; some people really have a bee in their bonnet over the Asari (whilst ignoring the flaws in the other races - or if not ignoring, being certainly much less vocal). It's very strange.

As opposed to the people who think the asari walk on water?
 

According to Hackett they finished the crucible by the time you attack Cronos Station (except for the reaper heart/brain, I guess). Yes, maybe the final battle would have taken place in the Serpent Nebula and not in Sol (if we assume the scientists working on the crucible would have somehow activated the beacon without Shepard), and that would have been then only difference.

Oh really? So the only useful thing we could learn from Vendetta was what the Catalyst is? There is absolutely no chance of it having, say more information on building the Crucible? Information that could speed our own construction or further our understanding of what it's supposed to do?

Please.

[DeinonSlayer]

Silence, Crutch! We mustn't blemish the Master Race.

[CrutchCricket]

Silence, Crutch! We mustn't blemish the Master Race.

 

They blemish themselves.

 

Everyone's favorite progressive Matriarch ends up putting down her own cause.

 

"We need to stop stripping and start fighting!"

 

"Asari aren't made for the front lines!"

 

Oh really? I'd say you're sexist but your race is mono-gendered so I don't even know what to class that as. And on top of that she gives me **** for her own nonsensical application of gender-differentiated parenting.

[Nightwriter]

It's a sign *hint hint.

 

Worst fears reinforced.

[Andrew Lucas]

There is hundred of thousands threads about this lol.

[DeinonSlayer]

Given that they're monogendered, I imagine they wouldn't have masculine or feminine pronouns. "He" and "she" would come through their translators as the same word. Might make for some vaguely entertaining conversational missteps.

[rekn2]

They blemish themselves.

 

Everyone's favorite progressive Matriarch ends up putting down her own cause.

 

"We need to stop stripping and start fighting!"

 

"Asari aren't made for the front lines!"

 

Oh really? I'd say you're sexist but your race is mono-gendered so I don't even know what to class that as. And on top of that she gives me **** for her own nonsensical application of gender-differentiated parenting.

the "P word", almost as disgusting as the "L word".

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

TIM did learn about the beacon via the mars archives. Tim himself said so as soon as you meet him again on Thessia

 

So EDI held out on you. I knew we should never have trusted a synthetic. Throw her out the airlock.

 

That is really lame. Why didn't EDI know? Like I said. EVA should have had the data stored in her data banks and EDI should have accessed them before she took over or at least when she took over the platform. 

 

This is proof that the Asari weren't holding out on you. You had it all along. Perhaps EDI didn't think the information was important? lol. 

 

Mass Effect. Plot holes plot holes everywhere!

[ImaginaryMatter]

you mean omnipotence

 

I sure hope not. That means he can strike us down with his heroic bolts of lightning at any given second.

[ApplesauceBandit]

Screw the Liara Haters, Hating a character just because they're popular is lame, of course i know thats not the only reason people dislike her, which is fine, they're free to their opinions. Liara will always remain my favorite LI and Squadmate

[Barquiel]

You need Shepard's cipher to comprehend it... so you don't send Shepard for it? Him or his Prothean buddy? Help me here.

To say nothing of what others have already mentioned with Shiala. In fact, I'd be surprised if asari black-ops haven't already pried it out of her head. Then there's also the question of how they've been able to get information from it this entire time anyway. Information to jump your civilization forward a few centuries is free but for information about the threat you'll face if you do, you need our version of a secret decoder ring? Not likely.
 

Oh really? So the only useful thing we could learn from Vendetta was what the Catalyst is? There is absolutely no chance of it having, say more information on building the Crucible? Information that could speed our own construction or further our understanding of what it's supposed to do?

Please.

Vendetta didn't know what the crucible does. The crucible plans aren't even stored on Thessia. The protheans stored the plans in three of their "old" main archives. One of these archives is on Mars, the other two were erased (explained in Liara's homeworld comic). So how exactly could Vendetta help building the crucible? Hackett described the Crucible plans as elegant, they are designed to be easy to understand. The problem is that the crucible is very big (the salarian councilor described it as a colossal undertaking) and it takes some time/ressources to build. What other information do we need? We didn't know what the catalyst is (despite having the Crucible plans with matching parts to the Citadel), that's all.

You know...there isn't a big "activate hidden VI with your prothean cypher" sign on the beacon. The asari simply didn't know that there is a hidden VI in their beacon...a VI Shepard, Javik or Shiala could activate. So why would they send Shepard or Shiala exactly? Shiala is on Feros and leads a militia of Zhu's Hope colonists. Shiala isn't a scientist. She isn't anywhere near the crucible or any prothean artifacts during the game. I mean, every citadel race has their prothean artifacts, archives or ruins. Did Shepard or Shiala study them all because maybe they could activate something with their cipher? There are vast prothean ruins on Kahje...who knows how many things Shep could activate there

And the information to jump your civilization forward a few centuries is also free on Mars. Humans studied the Mars archives for 30 years and they didn't find anything about the reapers (you need special encryption keys here). Nihlus says all galactic civilizations are based on Prothean technology. Every race has their prothean beacons/archives and they never found anything about the reapers or the crucible. You get technology, but not the crucible blueprints or the reaper warnings. It's stupid, but the game makes this crystal clear and doesn't really leave any room for speculation. I guess it is possible the asari (or the other races) have been deriving their technological head start simply from studying the operation of the beacon, rather than actually accessing the information it contained. That's still the most likely explanation imo.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Cerberus was, at the very least, an Alliance black ops organization. So, I ask again, why do humans get let off the hook for a var more heinous act than the Asari? 

 

Because they're willing to act when the Asari won't. 

 

Depends on the system of ethics and morality you subscribe to. I'm a consequentialist and pragmatist. So naturally, I'm not going to  care about methods as long as they produce results.

[rekn2]

I sure hope not. That means he can strike us down with his heroic bolts of lightning at any given second.

heroic bolts of pure Fing justice!

[von uber]

Because they're willing to act when the Asari won't. 

 

 

Things is though, none of the other races 'were willing to act' in ME2. In ME3, everyone wanted somehting; in fact the Asari are probably the only ones to join the war in ME3 without havnig had something done for them first.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Things is though, none of the other races 'were willing to act' in ME2. In ME3, everyone wanted somehting; in fact the Asari are probably the only ones to join the war in ME3 without havnig had something done for them first.

 

Really, they aren't. You get their portion of the Citadel Fleet for saving the Citadel, but they don't really fully commit themselves to the fight until it's already too late for Thessia. You can pick up various assets across Asari space, but those are more from rescuing them and sending them up the chain of command.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Screw the Liara Haters, Hating a character just because they're popular is lame, of course i know thats not the only reason people dislike her, which is fine, they're free to their opinions. Liara will always remain my favorite LI and Squadmate

 

I don't think many people hate her because she's popular. I think they dislike her based on the complications of both her popularity, and, to a much greater extent, her narrative value based on the trilogy. She has a lot of contrived importance to the plot.

[themikefest]

It doesn't matter if the Asari knew what the artifact was or knew what it contained they failed to reveal it. When the galaxy is under attack with the threat of extinction, everyone needs to put aside their own wants and reveal any secret they have that might help. But the Asari, because their "special", feel they don't have to reveal anything. Its obvious they didn't care about the other species. They only cared about remaining top dog in the galaxy and only when the threat of the reapers on their doorstep do they cry wolf and reveal they have an artifact on their homeworld.

 

Vendetta says "If you followed the plans for the crucible, I will interface with your systems and assist with the catalyst to--" It doesn't specifically say it call help in the building of the crucible though with another minute or so before Kai Leng show up, it would've/could've said it can help with the building of the crucible and possibly had it built earlier.

 

I know we need to go to Chronos for the heart or brain, but that is only for a low ems run. So had the Asari revealed it earlier, Vendetta could've gone to the crucible project and helped since the project is in a location no one knew about.

 

As far as Cerberus is concerned, I would've had it where after you obtain Ventdetta Kai Leng shows up with all his goons and a major fight happens. In the end, he retreats because Shepard and company overwelm him and his goons. The game plays out the same except TIM tries another plan that might help him. Kai Leng is still tracked to Horizon and eventually Chronos. The crucible is built and because of knowing what the Catalyst is you have time to evacuate the Citadel saving countless lives that other wise might die. The crucible fires its space magic in the Serpeant Nebula.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Given that they're monogendered, I imagine they wouldn't have masculine or feminine pronouns. "He" and "she" would come through their translators as the same word. Might make for some vaguely entertaining conversational missteps.

 

They do say that yet you get things like the Matriarch/Patriarch thing with Avina and... well, Patriarch (whatever happened to him in Omega, by the way?).

 

I guess the explanation could be that the Asari started referring to themselves as feminine after encountering the other races.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Really, they aren't. You get their portion of the Citadel Fleet for saving the Citadel, but they don't really fully commit themselves to the fight until it's already too late for Thessia. You can pick up various assets across Asari space, but those are more from rescuing them and sending them up the chain of command.

Right because they're supposed to leave themselves defenseless for Earth! F***ing brilliant, Massive!