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[von uber]

Liara isn't my favourite asari, and as I have posted before she has numerous faults.
Don't mistake amusing myself by posting images of her in response to posts as being uncritical of the character.
As regards liaramancer (daft term, as are all the other xxxxxmancer) I feel as a femshep player it's the best choice across the trilogy.
From an me3 only perspective, due to the way the liara romance is dealt with resumption may be the better option for that game considered in isolation.

[Astartes Marine]

"Safe" as in "buried with Jimmy Hoffa." If she wants to keep telling herself the beacon was the only artifact in the temple (hint: don't look at what's under the floor when Shepard falls through), that it was completely useless and no good would have come from relocating it where it was accessible to researchers from all species and NOT accessible to Cerberus, that's her business.

"I never thought this day would come..."
"You were warned three years ago, Councilor. No one gets to hide anymore."

 

You get a Like good sir, wonderfully said.

 

I don't know but she sure as hell is a conduit for the blue brigade. I have yet to meet a single user that likes only one or two asari characters and is willing to admit their faults, the faults of the others, or of the race as a whole.

 

I like Samara and Aethyta, but on the whole I think their race is one of the most flawed in the series and it will always irk me how they're written to be the most beloved regardless, that they can do no wrong.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Liara isn't my favourite asari, and as I have posted before she has numerous faults.
Don't mistake amusing myself by posting images of her in response to posts as being uncritical of the character.
As regards liaramancer (daft term, as are all the other xxxxxmancer) I feel as a femshep player it's the best choice across the trilogy.
From an me3 only perspective, due to the way the liara romance is dealt with resumption may be the better option for that game considered in isolation.

 

My favorite FemShep romance has always been Kaidan. He's just such a good guy and a bro.

 

As an aside what are people who romance Kaidan called? I would go to the romance section but I'm still dealing with some of the emotional scars from the last time.

[von uber]

As an aside what are people who romance Kaidan called?

Patient?

 

Anyway, I've been thinking. What can you criticise the Turians for in game? I'm trying to think.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Patient?

 

Anyway, I've been thinking. What can you criticise the Turians for in game? I'm trying to think.

 

Well ouch.

 

As for the Turians, you can criticize the Turian councilor for the councils (and by extension the council races) for their complacency. There's also several things you can say about them during the Genophage arch.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I really wish they would have given us the option of air quoting Sparatus "Ah yes, 'Reapers.' You wanted better evidence than Sovereign, you got it."

 

ME3: the game that gave no satisfaction.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

As regards liaramancer (daft term, as are all the other xxxxxmancer) I feel as a femshep player it's the best choice across the trilogy.
 

Well, maybe her romance in LotSB is better than Garrus' in ME2, but Garrus in ME3 steals the show, I say. 
 

[jtav]

Oh, yes Garrus is perfection in 3. Thane w/ Citadel is no slouch either. Liara is incredibly underwhelming.

[DuskWanderer]

That's because it's hilariously out of date.

 

But never mind that, "art" is abound!

 

 

I don't know but she sure as hell is a conduit for the blue brigade. I have yet to meet a single user that likes only one or two asari characters and is willing to admit their faults, the faults of the others, or of the race as a whole.

 

And personally I preferred her ME1 personality. I don't find the jump she did in ME2 believable in the least.

 

I think Liara is the "conduit for the blue brigade" merely because she's the one you see all of the time. I like Samara, and Aetheyta. Hell, I even like the random asari we get on Thessia (Lieutenant Kurin, Specialist Jenova [sniper chick], Outpost Tykis, and Talon Five). But the asari as a whole are as boring and cliche as superior acting elves in SPACE!

 

And, as mentioned by others, how we can never seem to call them out, or that, somehow, something bad that happens to the asari is worse than what happens to everyone else.

[General TSAR]

I like Samara and Aethyta, but on the whole I think their race is one of the most flawed in the series and it will always irk me how they're written to be the most beloved regardless, that they can do no wrong.

Same thing for me, besides Samara, Aethyta, Detective Anaya, Vasir, that one Asari Thane assassinated, and Captain Enyala, I despise the Asari and how much nonsense they can get away because "OMG BLUE BISEXUAL BABES."

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

Same thing for me, besides Samara, Aethyta, Detective Anaya, Vasir, that one Asari Thane assassinated, and Captain Enyala, I despise the Asari and how much nonsense they can get away because "OMG BLUE BISEXUAL BABES."

That's like, at least half of the named Asari cast. 

[metalfenix]

I'm playing the Omega DLC right now, and I declare myself an Aria T'Loak fan. That asari, and Aethyta, are my favorites. This galaxy needs more bad a** asari.

[von uber]

I'm playing the Omega DLC right now, and I declare myself an Aria T'Loak fan. That asari, and Aethyta, are my favorites. This galaxy needs more bad a** asari.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Except she acts like neither a femme fatale nor a temptress.

 

Keep in mind I'm not disliking her character.  Just saying that characterization of her is, well, wrong.

 

Indeed. I'm just saying what she was narratively supposed to be according to the Team Lead.

[rekn2]

That path being the guy who snaps his heels together and salutes that garbled transmission en route to Mars?

To jump back to the OT, something else I found awkward was LotSB, how Shepard leaps to Liara's rescue and lands in a spooning position, potentially while your actual love interest gets pummeled by a table and later wordlessly leaves the room so you can hug Liara again.

wtf man, you got something against me personally?!

[von uber]

I didn't realise that was not Liara being a LI dependent. Now that is daft.

[rekn2]

Indeed. I'm just saying what she was narratively supposed to be according to the Team Lead.

just about every character in me3 is completely written wrong. the me3 completely missed the mark on the characterization of the entire team. this is why i ****** about writers changing seats mid trilogy.

 

weve both said this about 100x now. i cant wait till me4 comes out so at least we can all move on and talk about something else

[Ryzaki]

I didn't realise that was not Liara being a LI dependent. Now that is daft.

 

It really is.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I didn't realise that was not Liara being a LI dependent. Now that is daft.

 

Yes, very, and it's daft in the most Matt Smith/David Tennant/Christopher Eccleston styling of the word. You basically have to take someone else who isn't an ME2 LI. I remember the first time I did it, I brought Miranda, and I was practically shouting at the screen over the BS of not only watching Shepard protect Liara over Miranda, but leave to give them 'alone time'.

 

Cue David coming in here and defending the scene.

[wolfhowwl]

Your Shepard is a perv who used that as an opportunity to cop a feel from Liara.

 

It's canon.

[themikefest]

I didn't realise that was not Liara being a LI dependent. Now that is daft.

Yep. Very frustrated seeing that happen.

[KaiserShep]

just about every character in me3 is completely written wrong. the me3 completely missed the mark on the characterization of the entire team. this is why i ****** about writers changing seats mid trilogy.

weve both said this about 100x now. i cant wait till me4 comes out so at least we can all move on and talk about something else

I think ME3 Garrus is largely superior to ME2 Garrus. In ME2, it's like he totally forgot everything from the encounter with Dr. Saleon, all because he had issues with bureaucracy. To be fair, this is largely an issue with how characters do not change based on what you do or how you treat them, except for maybe dying if they're not loyal.

[grey_wind]

I think ME3 Garrus is largely superior to ME2 Garrus. In ME2, it's like he totally forgot everything from the encounter with Dr. Saleon, all because he had issues with bureaucracy. To be fair, this is largely an issue with how characters do not change based on what you do or how you treat them, except for maybe dying if they're not loyal.

While I have problems with some of the writing around ME2 Garrus, I think ME3 Garrus is even worse. His entire character arc about becoming a leader and the themes he explored (justice vs the law, vengeance vs justice, the price to do the right thing) are all dropped in favour of making him Shepard's bestie and for some absurd reason drafting him into the Turian military.

 

While his banter and dialogue are very well written in ME3 and are far superior to his ME1 or 2 incarnations', his character literally goes nowhere.

[Darks1d3]

I didn't realise that was not Liara being a LI dependent. Now that is daft.

LoTSB was more or less a DLC for all the Liara fans who disliked her marginal role in ME2, or who were upset at not being able to adequately continue the romance, and the Devs wanted to cash in on all her fandom. Because of this, I'm guessing this little caveat was just an oversight by the writing team.

 

By the way, I'm not saying that this is a valid excuse. I'm just saying compared to all the oversights they made in the series, this is a minor one.

[wiccame]

Anyone ever wonder what makes Liara such an expert, that she is needed to return to Normandy when EDI takes over EVA's body?

 

I know its to make room for Garrus in the group but that's just a stupid excuse for it. When there are people far more qualified and knowledgeable about that already on the ship.