22 réponses à ce sujet

[SurlyShepard]

Is it possible to obtain all dialog options, interrupts, side quests, etc. in ME2 with just one playthrough?  I imported my Shepard from ME1 by the way.

 

In ME1, you have to play the game at least twice with the same Shepard to get all dialog options.  I am thinking specifically of the scene on Eden Prime where Shepard comes across a group of farmers in a shed.  You can use charm or intimidate to get the farmers to give up info on a smuggler, but in my experience, this is only a dialog option on a 2nd playthrough.

 

So what's the consensus on ME2 completionist playthroughs?  Can I get "everything" with just one playthrough, or should I plan to beat the game and start a new game+?

[DeinonSlayer]

Gibbed Save Editor for ME2. If you're on PC, just get it and pour a bunch of points into paragon and renegade in the first save you make (say, take the paragon and renegade values you imported from ME1 and multiply by ten). Should unlock all persuasion options for you.

[SurlyShepard]

Gibbed Save Editor for ME2. If you're on PC, just get it and pour a bunch of points into paragon and renegade in the first save you make (say, take the paragon and renegade values you imported from ME1 and multiply by ten). Should unlock all persuasion options for you.

 

Thanks for the tip, but I'm playing on Xbox 360.

[geth47]

No, some of the dialogues have 5 different possible answers, not to mention that some situations are triggered depending on how you behaved in ME1.

[geth47]

Also, if you´re romancing a character, and you did romance Liara in ME1, you will have different comments from her.

 

 

Also, there are some exclusive comments depending on wheter your shep is male or female, his/her origin and service history.

[SurlyShepard]

No, some of the dialogues have 5 different possible answers, not to mention that some situations are triggered depending on how you behaved in ME1.

 

 

Also, if you´re romancing a character, and you did romance Liara in ME1, you will have different coments.

 

 

Also, there are some exclusive comments depending on wheter your shep is male or female, his/her origin and service history.

 

Let me clarify.  I have played the whole trilogy multiple times through (renegade, paragon, and mixed).  I understand there are different answers and outcomes based on background, choices, etc.  Perhaps "all possible dialog choices" wasn't the best choice of words...

 

Are there situations in ME2 like the example I gave for ME1?  That is, are there times in ME2 when certain dialog options simply aren't available that otherwise would be available if I were on a new game+?

[geth47]

Spoilers ahead: Depending on how you decide to do certain missions, the repercutions are different. Some of the loyalty missions can be failed, like Thane and Samara´s, and their comments following this mission will be different. Some can end in different ways, like Tali´s, Garrus, Miranda, Kasumi, and their comments later will also differ.

[SurlyShepard]

Spoilers ahead: Depending on how you decide to do certain missions, the repercutions are different. Some of the loyalty missions can be failed, like Thane and Samara´s, and their comments following this mission will be different. Some can end in different ways, like Tali´s, Garrus, Miranda, Kasumi, and their comments later will also differ.

 

I realize that.  But are those repercussions different if I'm on a 1st playthrough vs. a new game+ playthrough with the same Shepard?

[geth47]

Well, there´s at least one situation that comes to my mind: If you are on a new game, you will lack a question from Miranda on the shuttle soon after the first mission. If you imported a ME1 save, she will inquire about who you recommended to fill the seat on the Council.

 

Also, if you played ME1, several characters from the first game (assuming if let them live) will make cameos. 

 

But again, you can´t have everything in a single play.

 

 

During the ME1 mission on Feros, you can let the captured Asari live or die. If you let her live, she will appear in ME2 in  one of the hubs. If you killed her, she will be replaced by one female colonist.

[SurlyShepard]

Got it, thanks.

[geth47]

Also, when you go to the Krogan planet, and when you go rescue Grunt (one of the first missions), depending on wheter you played ME1 or not, and how you handled Urdnot Wrex will greatly impact on the dialogues, and even the characters. If Wrex is alive, he will be clan leader. If he´s dead, because you killed him, or ash killed him, or he was simply not recruited, his brother will fill the position.

[capn233]

This sounds more like a question about the Charm or Intimidate system really.

 

In ME1 you don't necessarily miss out on anything if you dump enough points into Charm on Eden Prime.

 

ME2 replaces the Charm / Intimidate talents with Paragon and Renegade score checks to get your persuasion ability.  Most of the checks are pretty easy to pass on a completionist playthrough since they are based on percent of total available to you at the specific point of the game you are in.  You can also choose the passive evolutions that grant you more persuasion if you are so inclined.

 

As for Gibbed, it is possible to save edit with it on xbox.

[geth47]

There are some other situations. Most of the news on Omega and Citadel can be impacted regarding what you did in ME1. For instance, if you let the Council perish or not, how you handled certain missions like the guy being held hostage by biotic extremists, and the cerberus mission with corporal toombs. Also, the rachni receive a small mention.

 

If you had a romance with Kaidan, Liara or Ash, not only the start of the game may differ, but whenever you meet them again their reactions will differ too.

 

How you handled the "asking to be punched" reporter will also impact the game. If you never did an interview with her, if you attacked her or walked away will have repercutions during the talk. Also, your origin story may affect your answers, as well if you let the council die or not.

[SurlyShepard]

This sounds more like a question about the Charm or Intimidate system really.

 

In ME1 you don't necessarily miss out on anything if you dump enough points into Charm on Eden Prime.

 

ME2 replaces the Charm / Intimidate talents with Paragon and Renegade score checks to get your persuasion ability.  Most of the checks are pretty easy to pass on a completionist playthrough since they are based on percent of total available to you at the specific point of the game you are in.  You can also choose the passive evolutions that grant you more persuasion if you are so inclined.

 

Yes, this.  Thank you.  I know I can't get ALL dialog (renegade and paragon) options in one playthrough.  I was more curious that I wasn't missing anything in my paragon completionist playthrough if I only played once.  In other words, do I gain anything in the way of extra dialog or additional persuasion if I play a new game+ right after this playthrough?  It seems from your post the answer is no.

 

Thanks for the insight.

[geth47]

Tali´s mission is one that can be completed (with failure, partial sucess or total sucess) in very different ways. 

 

Also, if you gave her the Geth data in ME1, her reactions towards you will be more positive, and she will always jump to your defense. 

 

There are some exclusive comments with her and Miranda if you did some missions in ME1 regarding cerberus, rachni and thorian experiments. If Tali received the data, even if you let a mentaly unstable quarian be taken by cerberus, she will try to reassure him that everything will be fine.

 

Also, even though it´s not spoken dialogue, the way you handled me 1 missions and side-quests will impact on some of the emails you receive on the new normandy.

 

The order in which you decide to do the mission can also affect dialogue. And Samara´s quest can fail and be completed in more than one way, allowing not only her to remain with you, or be replaced by an evil dopplelganger, with very different dialogue situations.

[geth47]

As you can see, there are some situation that will only appear if you played ME1.

 

Others will depend not only on if you played ME1, but wheter you decided to do certain side-quests and how you handled certain situations.

 

And of course, there are some action in ME2 that haver repercussions later.You woul have to replay large portion of the game. It´s not like you can save prior to a conversation, pick an option, reload and try the other ones.

 

One clear example of this is if you bring the Geth squad-mate to Tali´s recruitment. She and another Quarian will be surprised by his presence. If you bring him to Tali´s loyalty mission, several new comments will be made by other characters. 

[geth47]

Some of the DLCs, like Lair of the Shadow Broker, Zaed and Arrival also have variations in dialogues, depending on whether you already beaten the game main mission or not.

[themikefest]

If you want you can always save your game at cerstain points where the dialog wil be different and reload to hear the differences, but you will have to import another Shepard for Horizon since Ashley?Kaidan can be alive in ME2. That alone will require 2 playthroughs even though their dialog is similiar.

[geth47]

Not to mention that their dialog differs if you romanced them or not. 

 

And during the first sequence, it can he either Kaidan, Ash or Liara that helps some of the crew to enter the escape pods. Liara will also react different when you meet her later if she was romanced in ME1.

[geth47]

I know that there is even more exclusive content if you played mass effect galaxy and linked it to an EA account. When on Omega, Jacob will have different things to say when you meet 2 salarians.

[cap and gown]

NG+ is a bad idea for upping your paragon/renegade score. It resets that score to Zero for each. That is like starting a new, non-import game of ME2. Compare that with an imported game where both your paragon and renegade score can potentially be maxed out at 190 points at the start of the game. That is a huge boost that will ensure you can pass most dialogue checks even if you take a neutral approach, i.e. 50/50 paragon/renegade.

[cap and gown]

Another note: if you really want to see a different game, try NOT taking any interrupts or choosing persuade options. You will definitely see stuff you have never seen before.

[HusarX]

Thanks for the tip, but I'm playing on Xbox 360.

 

Gibbed Save Editor works also on X360. You just need to copy your ME2 save to a pendrive. Then extract the save with Horizon/ or Modio, then edit it with Gibbed. It's possible because you are only editing your save files not the coalesced.bin file.