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[wcholcombe]

Looked more like Leliana and Cassandra in that art to me, unless you are thinking of a different one.

The one could be leliana, but I certainly don't think the other is Cass.  That isn't how she is portrayed in any other artwork-big flowing robes and wierd hat.  Plus, if that is Leliana, it would fit for the other to be the divine, considering Leliana's common portrayal in public as one of the divine's attendants.  Of course, it have nothing to do with the chantry, but in the same statement Laidlaw or Gaider whomever said that you wouldn't be forced to support the chantry, they also stated you would have the option to ally with them.

[GVulture]

The OP changed the title from "leaders" to "advisors" to prevent the confusion of people thinking that they are the leaders while you are just the guy that fixes things.

 

He didn't refer to them as just advisors, but also as the  head managers of a certain aspect of the Inquisition.

 

Cullen - army, war assests and everything war related

 

Scribe Girl - commerce, traiding, treasury management

 

Leliana - spying, info gathering, sabotage, maybe assassinations 

 

They would answer only to the Inquisitor and maybe some other important members like Cass. They would be his council members.

Here is an interesting question, if Cullen is the military guy, who is the mustache man? (Do you know the Mustache Man, the Mustache Man, the mustache man...)

[Vulpe]

Here is an interesting question, if Cullen is the military guy, who is the mustache man? (Do you know the Mustache Man, the Mustache Man, the mustache man...)

 

People think that he's Dorian Pabus ( I hope I got the name right ). A Tevinter magister that is also a spirit healer or something like that.

 

I personaly hope that Cole isn't the character from Asunder that we get as a companion and that Mustache Guy is actually Rhys. 

[GVulture]

The one could be leliana, but I certainly don't think the other is Cass.  That isn't how she is portrayed in any other artwork-big flowing robes and wierd hat.  Plus, if that is Leliana, it would fit for the other to be the divine, considering Leliana's common portrayal in public as one of the divine's attendants.  Of course, it have nothing to do with the chantry, but in the same statement Laidlaw or Gaider whomever said that you wouldn't be forced to support the chantry, they also stated you would have the option to ally with them.

Didn't notice the little hat. I was thinking it could've been Cass in some dress uniform or summat.

[wcholcombe]

They're not far off. Poor Riordan.

Riordan has been in the game world for all of 5 seconds.  Justinia has been developed in DAO, Asunder, somewhat Masked Empire, and in the background of DA2.  Killing her now would be equivalent to how Martin likes to make a really developed interesting character and then wack them.  Not saying she is Ned Stark, but there are some similarities.

[GVulture]

People think that he's Dorian Pabus ( I hope I got the name right ). A Tevinter magister that is also a spirit healer or something like that.

 

I personaly hope that Cole isn't the character from Asunder that we get as a companion and that Mustache Guy is actually Rhys. 

Did they say we are getting an Asunder character as a companion? Or is it all speculation?

[Vulpe]

Did they say we are getting an Asunder character as a companion? Or is it all speculation?

 

I think they said that we'll get someone. I don't have a link.

 

Forumites unite! We need your help! Provide us with a link that can confirm or demolish my claim!

[ZombieMasterDW]

People think that he's Dorian Pabus ( I hope I got the name right ). A Tevinter magister that is also a spirit healer or something like that.

 

I personaly hope that Cole isn't the character from Asunder that we get as a companion and that Mustache Guy is actually Rhys. 

 

Rhys has black hair. And if Rhys was a compaion then Evangeline would probably be a companion too, since they're a couple now (possibly even married by now). I think Rhys and Evangeline will probably be encountered in the game but I doubt they will be companions. I think most signs point to Cole being the companion from Asunder.

[ZombieMasterDW]

I think they said that we'll get someone. I don't have a link.

 

Forumites unite! We need your help! Provide us with a link that can confirm or demolish my claim!

 

It just says returning character from Asunder.

 

http://dragonage.wik...ge:_Inquisition

[wcholcombe]

The OP changed the title from "leaders" to "advisors" to prevent the confusion of people thinking that they are the leaders while you are just the guy that fixes things.

 

He didn't refer to them as just advisors, but also as the  head managers of a certain aspect of the Inquisition.

 

Cullen - army, war assests and everything war related

 

Scribe Girl - commerce, traiding, treasury management

 

Leliana - spying, info gathering, sabotage, maybe assassinations 

 

They would answer only to the Inquisitor and maybe some other important members like Cass. They would be his council members.

I still see Cullen being the party member route.  As Lob mentions, if you are anti templars it wouldn't make much sense for your military advisor to be a templar.  Party member sure, but I don't think you put someone you have that big of an ideology split with in charge of your soldiers.

 

It is still working on an assumption though. The idea that there are advisors and such in this manner.  For all we know Leliana is just your go between for you and the Chantry.  I believe all we know for a fact is that she like morrigan won't be a party member. 

 

In the previews, the type of Fort you build affects some aspects in ways we don't know and how many agents you have to do missions.  The person you talk to for updates in the video is just some no-name soldier. 

 

Its an interesting theory though.

[GVulture]

It just says returning character from Asunder.

 

http://dragonage.wik...ge:_Inquisition

Isn't Leliana in Asunder?

[wcholcombe]

Isn't Leliana in Asunder?

Leliana isn't a party character. She is just in the game, like Morrigan.

[ZombieMasterDW]

Isn't Leliana in Asunder?

 

Yeah but you would think they were referring to someone who was introduced in Asunder, it would be kind of lame if they were referring to Leliana or Shale as a character "from" Asunder.

[GVulture]

Leliana isn't a party character. She is just in the game, like Morrigan.

The tweet they link to on the wiki just says "appear" not "will be a party member...

 

 

We’ve already said publicly that someone from Asunder will appear in DAI, just not whom.

[Vulpe]

I still see Cullen being the party member route.  As Lob mentions, if you are anti templars it wouldn't make much sense for your military advisor to be a templar.  Party member sure, but I don't think you put someone you have that big of an ideology split with in charge of your soldiers.

 

It is still working on an assumption though. The idea that there are advisors and such in this manner.  For all we know Leliana is just your go between for you and the Chantry.  I believe all we know for a fact is that she like morrigan won't be a party member. 

 

In the previews, the type of Fort you build affects some aspects in ways we don't know and how many agents you have to do missions.  The person you talk to for updates in the video is just some no-name soldier. 

 

Its an interesting theory though.

 

When I first mentioned something like this on another thread I based my claim on a leak ( not the companion one ) that stated that the Inquisition will have 3 other lesser organisations or somethin like this with whom it will interact.

 

The Iron/Red Fists (can't remember the actuall name) - military

 

The Golden Keys - Trading. 

 

The Purple Crows - Espionage

 

When it comes to The Purple Crows, it said that Leliana is their leader. I think it also said that Scribe Girl is a representant of The Golden Keys and you can also see a golden key symbol in a screenshot from the PAX Demo

 

 Don't ask for a link. That info was swallowed by the dark depts of the internet. I actually saw a screen shot with that info.You'll just have to believe me (or not)

 

 

It also said things regarding The Red Templars and their antagonisitic nature before any official information regarding them surfaced. I don't think it's 100% correct by now, but some info proved right so there is a grain of truth to it. 

 

 

Why do I think Cullen is the military representant? If they go on the 3/3/3 route, there is only one othe place for a warrior. There is Cass and The Iron Bull. Between Feathers and Cullen I think that Feathers fits better as a companion. Cullen seems to have more connections to the loyalist templars and maybe other military guys while Feathers might be a warden that abandoned the order.

 

If they don't go on the 3/3/3 route then I can actually see Cullen as a companion.

[ElitePinecone]

Wait a second! The events from Asunder happened after Kirkwall. Divine Justinia is alive and well.

 

I think it's a different magical blast, not Anders' one. (Damnit, Anders!)

 

If the magical attack on the peace conference happens at the same time as the Veil tears, and wipes out some of the Chantry leadership, I think it's more likely that it happens in Orlais - maybe near the Grand Cathedral itself.

[GVulture]

When I first mentioned something like this on another thread I based my claim on a leak ( not the companion one ) that stated that the Inquisition will have 3 other lesser organisations or somethin like this to whom it will interact.

 

The Iron/Red Fists (can't remember the actuall name) - military

 

The Golden Keys - Trading. 

 

The Purple Crows - Espionage

 

When it comes to The Purple Crows, it said that Leliana is their leader. I think it also said that Scribe Girl is a representant of The Golden Keys and you can also see a golden key symbol in a screenshot from the PAX Demo

 

 Don't ask for a link. That info was swallowed by the dark depts of the internet. I actually saw a screen shot with that info.You'll just have to believe me (or not)

 

 

It also said things regarding The Red Templars and their antagonisitic nature before any official information regarding them surfaced. I don't think it's 100% correct by now, but some info proved right so there is a grain of truth to it. 

 

 

Why do I think Cullen is the military representant? If they go on the 3/3/3 route, there is only one othe place for a warrior. There is Cass and The Iron Bull. Between Feathers and Cullen I think that Feathers fits better as a companion. Cullen seems to have more connections to the loyalist templars and maybe other military guys while Feathers might be a warden that abandoned the order.

 

If they don't go on the 3/3/3 route then I can actually see Cullen as a companion.

My only issue with 3/3/3 is that we don't really need a third mage. They've never done 3 at a time before (Bethany being an exception for Act I of Dragon Age 2... she isn't with you long enough to really count, I think). I also think that four rogues is too much. We already have two ranged rogues which leaves room for the dual wielding rogue but after that... If they don't go 3/3/3, we are almost definitely getting an extra warrior. IMO. That way you can have two tanky warriors (Cass and Iron Bull) and two DPS warriors (Feathers/Cullen).

[ElitePinecone]

I don't think Justinia is dead.  She could be, I just don't think with the development bioware has put into her that she is going to die like that.  Again she may, but bioware isn't quite George RR Martin.

 

That's true.

 

But even her disappearance would be enough to cause a power vacuum, I think - and there has to be some reason why Cass/Cullen/Leliana go to all the effort of starting and joining a new organisation instead of working with Chantry resources.

 

(As in, if the Chantry *was* still effective, they'd use that. The fact that they're submitting to the Inquisitior's command must mean something has gone horribly wrong with all the established centres of power in Thedas)

[Master Warder Z_]

This speculation goes in odd directions.

[ZombieMasterDW]

I don't see why they couldn't give us three mage companions, especially if they represented three different stances on mages; circle mage (Vivienne), apostate (Solas), and Tevinter magister (companion whom I hope exists). And we don't know if they have to use a certain type of weapon, so there might not have to be two archer rogues. I'm still hoping for 3/3/3 just because it seems fair.

[wcholcombe]

That's true.

 

But even her disappearance would be enough to cause a power vacuum, I think - and there has to be some reason why Cass/Cullen/Leliana go to all the effort of starting and joining a new organisation instead of working with Chantry resources.

 

(As in, if the Chantry *was* still effective, they'd use that. The fact that they're submitting to the Inquisitior's command must mean something has gone horribly wrong with all the established centres of power in Thedas)

I have assumed that is because Justinia has her hands full with the mages and templars.  We know that Cass has been sent to find out what caused the events of Kirkwall.  We also know that Justinia and the Seekers believe that an outside force was manipulating events in Kirkwall. As such Cass's mission would naturally take her in the perspective of joining the person able to close the rift gates under the speculation they would be the same person.  To my knowledge we don't actually know Leliana joins you so much as has a role.  Aside from the previous comments of Purple Crows and such.

 

I don't see why they couldn't give us three mage companions, especially if they represented three different stances on mages; circle mage (Vivienne), apostate (Solas), and Tevinter magister (companion whom I hope exists). And we don't know if they have to use a certain type of weapon, so there might not have to be two archer rogues. I'm still hoping for 3/3/3 just because it seems fair.

It would be a departure.  It has been heavily hiinted at if not outright stated that Bioware doesn't want the ability to make a 4 mage party due to balancing issues and such.  I don't know that fair really has anything to do with it?

[GVulture]

I don't see why they couldn't give us three mage companions, especially if they represented three different stances on mages; circle mage (Vivienne), apostate (Solas), and Tevinter magister (companion whom I hope exists). And we don't know if they have to use a certain type of weapon, so there might not have to be two archer rogues. I'm still hoping for 3/3/3 just because it seems fair.

Seems fair, but when it ISN'T, it usually skews to extra warriors. That's all I am saying. I still think they might save the Tevinter Magister for sometime when they will be dealing with Tevinter. Maybe next game? Or a DLC?

[wcholcombe]

When I first mentioned something like this on another thread I based my claim on a leak ( not the companion one ) that stated that the Inquisition will have 3 other lesser organisations or somethin like this with whom it will interact.

 

The Iron/Red Fists (can't remember the actuall name) - military

 

The Golden Keys - Trading. 

 

The Purple Crows - Espionage

 

When it comes to The Purple Crows, it said that Leliana is their leader. I think it also said that Scribe Girl is a representant of The Golden Keys and you can also see a golden key symbol in a screenshot from the PAX Demo

 

 Don't ask for a link. That info was swallowed by the dark depts of the internet. I actually saw a screen shot with that info.You'll just have to believe me (or not)

 

 

It also said things regarding The Red Templars and their antagonisitic nature before any official information regarding them surfaced. I don't think it's 100% correct by now, but some info proved right so there is a grain of truth to it. 

 

 

Why do I think Cullen is the military representant? If they go on the 3/3/3 route, there is only one othe place for a warrior. There is Cass and The Iron Bull. Between Feathers and Cullen I think that Feathers fits better as a companion. Cullen seems to have more connections to the loyalist templars and maybe other military guys while Feathers might be a warden that abandoned the order.

 

If they don't go on the 3/3/3 route then I can actually see Cullen as a companion.

Did some hunting, didn't find anything relating to those groups. Except for the golden keys symbol on one of the map missions from the PAX video. Not saying this isn't the case, just couldn't find squat. 

 

The iron fists/red fists could be the Iron Bulls merc company.

 

Don't really know what the story is on Feathers. I don't particularly buy the he left the order bit.  I could see him getting caught in a power struggle within the wardens and may have been set up by one side and is seeking to clear his name.  That could explain the inquisition attacking a warden strong hold.  Course that attack could also mean that we were just hitting Adamant and it still has all the warden symbols on it.

[ZombieMasterDW]

Seems fair, but when it ISN'T, it usually skews to extra warriors. That's all I am saying. I still think they might save the Tevinter Magister for sometime when they will be dealing with Tevinter. Maybe next game? Or a DLC?

 

True, Origins had mostly warrior companions. Though Awakening and DA2 were more balanced (aside from Hawke's siblings). I believe it was said that you can travel to Tevinter in Inquisition. And I wish they would be fair with the amount of classes. If someone wants to make a party where everyone is the same class they should be allowed to do so, even if it would be unbalanced.

[ElitePinecone]

For what it's worth, the same survey that had the "magical blast that wipes out the Chantry's leadership" line also contained companion bios for both Dorian and Cole.

 

 

 

• Dorian: Dorian Pavus is a magister. The title conjures fear of arcane masters who once enslaved nations. Dorian may wield power of the magisters, but he delights in not being what you’d expect of them. Brazen and clever, this outcast is on a crusade to rid his homeland of its corruption.
• Cole: A long time ago, a young man died a cruel death in a dark place. And now, somehow, there is Cole. Was he a spirit or a demon? Is he human now? Cole’s not sure it matters anymore. Hounded by memories that aren’t his, invisible in a world he can stalk like a shadow, the rogue must decide between joining the living or preying on them.

 

Cole and the Grey Warden would make the party 3/3/3. We know the Warden is a companion due to screenshots, and there's (at the very least) far more evidence for Dorian and Cole being companions than anybody else.

 

If Dorian is the robed guy in the War Room picture, then every single person in that image is a companion - except for Cullen, Leliana and the Scribe Lady.

 

(Because if Dorian and Cole are both companions, nobody else could be - we'd already be at 9 characters.)