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[ZombieMasterDW]

Oh Maker please let Dorian be a companion! He sounds like my dream companion.

[LobselVith8]

So, he'd remain tied to the Chantry? Why should the mages trust them any more?

 

I can see why some players would distrust Cullen in a pro-mage Inquisitor run, given that his "moderate" attitude consisted of arguing that mages shouldn't be treated as people, viewing mages as weapons, suggesting that there are valid arguments for applying the Rite of Tranquility more widely, and standing idly by while Meredith proceeded with a Right of Annulment against the Circle of Kirkwall for an act they had nothing to do with. The fact that Cullen only stops Meredith when she threatens the Champion specifically doesn't really help matters.

 

Known by whom? A pro-templar Hawke? How would that information reach the mages at all, especially since his "moderation" could only barely be called that?

 

I'm sure some players aren't going to view Cullen as a moderate if he shows up in Inquisition, even for those who are importing a run with a pro-templar Hawke who sided with Meredith, since Cullen might argue in favor of saving three mages. Three, out of hundreds. That's not likely to persuade some players that Cullen is a moderate templar.

[Phate Phoenix]

For what it's worth, the same survey that had the "magical blast that wipes out the Chantry's leadership" line also contained companion bios for both Dorian and Cole.

 

*SNIP*

 

Cole and the Grey Warden would make the party 3/3/3. We know the Warden is a companion due to screenshots, and there's (at the very least) far more evidence for Dorian and Cole being companions than anybody else.

 

If Dorian is the robed guy in the War Room picture, then every single person in that image is a companion - except for Cullen, Leliana and the Scribe Lady.

 

(Because if Dorian and Cole are both companions, nobody else could be - we'd already be at 9 characters.)

 

On the other hand, Solas wasn't even hinted in the leak you're referencing. Furthermore, the gender ratio of the party, if it continues as suggested, is 3 women to 6 men (or 5 men and 1 fade-entity-in-male-form). I think it's more likely that we're going to get the uneven 5:4 men to women, with the third rogue being a unannounced female, and a 4 warrior, 3 rogue, 2 mage party split.

 

Cullen and Flaily Hands de Moustache are the two pieces up in the air right now. Most likely, one is going to be an NPC and one the fourth warrior companion (the Grey Warden being the third). My line of thought is we haven't seen Flaily Hands with a weapon at all, while Cullen at least appears in armor in the one (possible) image we have. So, my thought is that Flaily Hands is our NPC, head-of-military-strategy and Cullen our companion.

 

(That being said, I think Cullen would make for a great NPC, and I wouldn't be disappointed if this is where he ends up. NPC romance, anyone?)

 

As for Dorian, I love his character and hope we wasn't scrapped altogether, and instead maybe saved for a future title taking place in Tevinter. I just have serious doubts about the Devs allowing a full-mage party without either nerfing magics or buffing the Red Templars so that they are almost untouched by magic. It could happen, but, well, unlikely.

 

To steer further on-topic, I like the idea of Leliana being out Spymistress (Spymaster? whatever). It's almost like she's become the moralistic version of Marjolaine.

[Xilizhra]

On the other hand, Solas wasn't even hinted in the leak you're referencing. Furthermore, the gender ratio of the party, if it continues as suggested, is 3 women to 6 men (or 5 men and 1 fade-entity-in-male-form). I think it's more likely that we're going to get the uneven 5:4 men to women, with the third rogue being a unannounced female, and a 4 warrior, 3 rogue, 2 mage party split.

Damn it, why can we not get another mage instead of yet another warrior?

[Master Warder Z_]

Damn it, why can we not get another mage instead of yet another warrior?

 

Balancing reasons.

[Xilizhra]

Balancing reasons.

Should party composition not be up to the player?

[Master Warder Z_]

Should party composition not be up to the player?

 

That was the reasons the Dev's apparently gave according to scuttlebutt.

[Xilizhra]

That was the reasons the Dev's apparently gave according to scuttlebutt.

Damn it. I didn't even want an all-mage party, but mages are the only class I double up on for preference, and having to bring Vivienne around would be horrible.

[wcholcombe]

I can see why some players would distrust Cullen in a pro-mage Inquisitor run, given that his "moderate" attitude consisted of arguing that mages shouldn't be treated as people, viewing mages as weapons, suggesting that there are valid arguments for applying the Rite of Tranquility more widely, and standing idly by while Meredith proceeded with a Right of Annulment against the Circle of Kirkwall for an act they had nothing to do with. The fact that Cullen only stops Meredith when she threatens the Champion specifically doesn't really help matters.

 

 

 

I'm sure some players aren't going to view Cullen as a moderate if he shows up in Inquisition, even for those who are importing a run with a pro-templar Hawke who sided with Meredith, since Cullen might argue in favor of saving three mages. Three, out of hundreds. That's not likely to persuade some players that Cullen is a moderate templar.

A little bit of exageration her Lob.  At the end of Asunder at Andorals reach, there were only hundreds of mages being the total from all of the mages in the circles except for the 2 annulments.  There is no evidence to suggest there were hundreds of mages at the circle in Kirkwall.

 

This isn't an argument against your position, just I find it funny the exageration in the number of mages that people put forward.

 

As for Xil's question about trusting the Chantry-the head of the chantry is the reason that the mage leadership isn't still rotting in the bottom of the White Spire.  That should count for something.

[wcholcombe]

For what it's worth, the same survey that had the "magical blast that wipes out the Chantry's leadership" line also contained companion bios for both Dorian and Cole.

 

 

Cole and the Grey Warden would make the party 3/3/3. We know the Warden is a companion due to screenshots, and there's (at the very least) far more evidence for Dorian and Cole being companions than anybody else.

 

If Dorian is the robed guy in the War Room picture, then every single person in that image is a companion - except for Cullen, Leliana and the Scribe Lady.

 

(Because if Dorian and Cole are both companions, nobody else could be - we'd already be at 9 characters.)

The peace conference was also talked about in one of the previews from Pax last fall.

[Master Warder Z_]

Damn it. I didn't even want an all-mage party, but mages are the only class I double up on for preference, and having to bring Vivienne around would be horrible.

 

Take longjohns Maggee then.

[Xilizhra]

Take longjohns Maggee then.

Of course, the situation might change if Vivienne really is a blood mage.

[ZombieMasterDW]

Of course, the situation might change if Vivienne really is a blood mage.

 

And risk getting blood stains on her clothes? Maker forbid!

[GVulture]

Vivienne isn't mentioned in that leak either. Or Varric... right? Pretty sure he was a surprise too.

Entirely possible that Sol replaced Dorion when they scrapped Tevinter as a location. Which... They did, didn't they? I remember hearing that before the Discover trailer came out. Because it would be a waste imo to have a magister when you won't be dealing with Tevinter.

[Xilizhra]

And risk getting blood stains on her clothes? Maker forbid!

They clearly already repel mud. In addition to her, you know, fighting in them.

[Master Warder Z_]

Of course, the situation might change if Vivienne really is a blood mage.

 

You buy into Kain's lunacy then?

 

If she had even one ounce of sense, she would stay as far away from that spectrum of magic as possible, she actually achieved what she wanted.

 

Why risk it.

[GVulture]

Take longjohns Maggee then.

Or play a mage. You couldn't have an all mage party before without hacks, I don't see why they would change that now.


Oh. Snap. That does kinda kabosh another mage, doesn't it? I guess Vivi and Solas are it.

[Knight of Dane]

Why are people assuming Cullen would be a Moderate?

 

Its speculation friend.

Thanks for stating the obvious. I wasn't asking "What is this?" I was asking why.

[ZombieMasterDW]

Vivienne isn't mentioned in that leak either. Or Varric... right? Pretty sure he was a surprise too.

Entirely possible that Sol replaced Dorion when they scrapped Tevinter as a location. Which... They did, didn't they? I remember hearing that before the Discover trailer came out. Because it would be a waste imo to have a magister when you won't be dealing with Tevinter.

 

It still says you can travel to Tevinter on the Dragon Age wiki, of course that could be outdated/erroneous. I hope they didn't scrap Tevinter as a location regardless of whether or not you can have a magister companion.

[Xilizhra]

You buy into Kain's lunacy then?

 

If she had even one ounce of sense, she would stay as far away from that spectrum of magic as possible, she actually achieved what she wanted.

 

Why risk it.

Perhaps that is precisely how she achieved it to begin with.

[GVulture]

It still says you can travel to Tevinter on the Dragon Age wiki, of course that could be outdated/erroneous. I hope they didn't scrap Tevinter as a location regardless of whether or not you can have a magister companion.

I think it is outdated. I wanna say I saw something on twitter about scraping Tevinter, but that it didn't mean they won't in the next game or dlc. Yeah... now if only i could remember who said it.

[GVulture]

Thanks for stating the obvious. I wasn't asking "What is this?" I was asking why.

Because he clearly isnt as understanding as Thrask but no where near as bad as Meredith? You know... moderate.

And please to not be using the "he said mages arent like every one else!" Please... that was 9 years before the end of DA2 people grow. Gd.

[themikefest]

This is just an observation, but the female in the middle leaning over the table with her hand around the dagger resembles(for me anyways) Aveline from DA2.

[GVulture]

This is just an observation, but the female in the middle leaning over the table with her hand around the dagger resembles(for me anyways) Aveline from DA2.

You mean the Inquisitor?

[LobselVith8]

Damn it. I didn't even want an all-mage party, but mages are the only class I double up on for preference, and having to bring Vivienne around would be horrible.

 

It seems a bit odd to create an imbalance in the party (when there are nine companions) simply to prevent the player from having three mage companions.