Then I shall assure you that there are indeed templars I'm sure wouldn't do so. Such as Thrask, Keran and Evangeline.
K. But I should point out that Keran wasn't really a templar he was a recruit, but now I'm just splitting hairs.
And to come back to topic, I think that if there is three advisors, one for military, one for commerce, and one for espionage, then they probably are all represented in that concept art.
Circles are not death camps.Participating in the Annulment. If one was a death camp guard, one doesn't need to have actually shot any of the prisoners to be considered an accessory of crimes against humanity. The same applies here, and this is discounting the absurdity of the idea that Carver and Cullen traveling with Meredith would never have seen combat.
There's less of those people than you think. Most are more for a middle ground, but the extremists make more noise than we do.
Very true, and the squeaky wheel gets the grease (or in this case the hate mail, lol).
There's less of those people than you think. Most are more for a middle ground, but the extremists make more noise than we do.
Very very true.
The image is of a very bad quality, but you can see the resemplance. He seems to have the white fabric on the oposite side as in the war room concept. As for the weapon... look closely. It's a staff. Many people said that he's using a sword, but you can see that he is holding with his left hand the main body while with the left he's holding a second handle that is connectet to the body of the trident.
So Moustache Guy is/was a mage.
What do you think the white/silvery thing is between his hand and his shoulder, though, if not a sword? You can also see the other side of the sword's handle on the bottom left part of his right hand.
He's reaching behind his back with his right hand, not holding it up to grab something in front of him. The part of the trident that looks attached is just the crossguard of the sword.
It's a pretty poor pose to do for concept art because so many people have misinterpreted what the picture is actually showing, but I'm certain that he is holding two weapons there.
We can see if he took any other actions in that time. Carver, at least, I can block going down that path.
To be honest, I always made Carver a Warden anyway.
The fist is one of the projects you can undertake to restore- The Iron Collosus I believe.
I would be very dissapointed if that's the actual colossus. It isn't that big.
Still, here's a little of that leak that I'm talking about. It's not all. If I find more I'll come with an edit.
This and something more made me believe that Cullen is the military main agent, Leliana the espionage one and Scribe Girl the banker/merchant one.
There's less of those people than you think. Most are more for a middle ground, but the extremists make more noise than we do.
I actually disagree. I think we middlegrounders are far outnumbered 
Except when you consider that non mages may not be able to heal at all, or if they can it will be very limited, having a party of 4 characters who can on some level heal would be unbalancing.
I am just going by the presedent of previous games. It may also be that there are fewer mages because there are in fact fewer mages in the general population.
I would be fine with it personally, they would just need to design it where mages are easy pickings in melee-as demonstrated in asunder-otherwise I can easily see how it would be unbalancing to open combat with 4 mages casting giant AOE spells on the enemies.
We have no idea if mages can heal, either.
If they're changing the health and healing system so radically, keeping a spell for healing like the ones in DA2 or DAO would defeat the purpose of the changes.
If any mage could heal everybody else, and replenish their mana outside battle, then there's zero point to any of their other changes.
Logically, the way that healing magic works has been altered too - if not, perhaps, removed entirely.
Circles are not death camps.
Maybe not before the Annulment.
I actually disagree. I think we middlegrounders are far outnumbered
I strongly disagree. We always see the same people in every topic about the templar / mage or other stuffs close to it since several years now. I am even able to tell who is pro-mage or pro-templar. The same people keep talking and they are able to talk indefinitely, with hundreds of pages
We have no idea if mages can heal, either.
If they're changing the health and healing system so radically, keeping a spell for healing like the ones in DA2 or DAO would defeat the purpose of the changes.
If any mage could heal everybody else, and replenish their mana outside battle, then there's zero point to any of their other changes.
Logically, the way that healing magic works has been altered too - if not, perhaps, removed entirely.
You make a good point. When I told my sister about the changes to healing after a battle she said that it's pointless because you would just use your mage to heal you. So it is very likely that even the way mages heal people has been altered.
There's less of those people than you think. Most are more for a middle ground, but the extremists make more noise than we do.
What do you think the white/silvery thing is between his hand and his shoulder, though, if not a sword? You can also see the other side of the sword's handle on the bottom left part of his right hand.
He's reaching behind his back with his right hand, not holding it up to grab something in front of him. The part of the trident that looks attached is just the crossguard of the sword.
It's a pretty poor pose to do for concept art because so many people have misinterpreted what the picture is actually showing, but I'm certain that he is holding two weapons there.
A scroll, a scroll support or a thingy in which you put a scroll to preserve it. I don't know how that's called in english. I don't even know how that's called in my own language 
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You can see that there is a white circle on whic there is a conic shape. Somethin like this but more simplistic. There is also a darker one under it and you can see its ending on his lower left. It seems to have a cylindrical shape ( at least to me)
Even in the "War Room" concept he has some smaller scrolls, but those are hard to see. Look at his left foot.
I think that they were still playing with his looks when that concept art appeared in the companion leak.
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Here's the pictures again so that you and all the other people might easier see what I'm talking about.
I sure feel outnumbered oftentimes whenever I take a moderate position on an issue, but that could be because I end up argue against two sides at once.
What's this you were saying about not judging mages for being mages? Bit of a double standard there. You want to say that it wasn't enough? Fine, agreed, but this vehement "I wanna kill them both!" for standing by and what... trying to stay out of a mad woman's way? Maker. You're too harsh.
Cullen stopped Meredith, he simply did so to protect the Champion, which is going to be an issue of contention with some people who take issue with what Meredith enacted against the Circle of Kirkwall. Given Cullen's views about mages, his usage of the term 'heathen', his view on tranquility, and his participation in the Right of Annulment, I'm not certain why anyone here is surprised that some people may not like him.
I can actually argue for both sides and my own games are split 50/50 but I have to argue Cullen in general because so many people mischaracterize him because of their knee jerk reaction to something he said at the beginning of his arc in dragon age 2. Because if we go by how the characters present themselves in the beginning... They're all horrible.
I agree that most people judge Cullen because of one particular comment, but I also feel like many people (and I'm not saying you're one of them) support Cullen so strongly simply because he's a very handsome man. I think if you took Cullen's character and put him in an ugly guy's body, the vast majority of people would radically change their opinions about him.
Maybe not before the Annulment.
I would be very dissapointed if that's the actual colossus. It isn't that big.
Still, here's a little of that leak that I'm talking about. It's not all. If I find more I'll come with an edit.
Spoiler
This and something more made me believe that Cullen is the military main agent, Leliana the espionage one and Scribe Girl the banker/merchant one.
Now that is interesting.....
You may be right, I had always assumed that hand was all that remained of the colossus, not that it was a symbol for the inquisition.
If you're going to deal in absolutes, it turned out the Circle was full of blood mages. So they were perfectly justified to call an Anullment when they started attacking people.
Firstly, that doesn't justify it. Secondly, it was called due to the actions of an unaffiliated apostate.
If you're going to deal in absolutes, it turned out the Circle was full of blood mages. So they were perfectly justified to call an Anullment when they started attacking people.
O_O
You're joking, right?
Cullen stopped Meredith, he simply did so to protect the Champion, which is going to be an issue of contention with some people who take issue with what Meredith enacted against the Circle of Kirkwall. Given Cullen's views about mages, his usage of the term 'heathen', his view on tranquility, and his participation in the Right of Annulment, I'm not certain why anyone here is surprised that some people may not like him.
When he spares the mages-I don't think they get spared just to be tranquiled but that is another discussion-he does so because he has learned from what Gregoire did in Ferelden and how it worked out, that wasn't saving the champion.
Again, I agree, he is a divisive character, but that action had nothing to do with the Champion, and I don't think anyone has ever pointed out him protecting the champion as meaning he was middle ground.
Firstly, that doesn't justify it. Secondly, it was called due to the actions of an unaffiliated apostate.
I think they are referring to the fact that Meredith wanted an annulment because she suspected that the Circle was full of blood mages before Anders...well, was Anders.
Can we maybe stop talking about mages and Circles and genocide in this thread please?
There are enough other places to do that already, it's not relevant to the topic, and I feel like maybe three quarters of the posts came from one debate that's gone on for nearly 20 pages now.
I agree that most people judge Cullen because of one particular comment, but I also feel like many people (and I'm not saying you're one of them) support Cullen so strongly simply because he's a very handsome man. I think if you took Cullen's character and put him in an ugly guy's body, the vast majority of people would radically change their opinions about him.
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