I'm still hoping Cullen is a companion
Leliana, Cullen and Scribe Lady - the Inquisition's advisors?
#427
Posté 05 avril 2014 - 11:20
I'm still hoping Cullen is a companion
Me, too, but it's looking less and less likely
And sadly, I think NPC romances are even less likely.
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#429
Posté 05 avril 2014 - 11:36
Me too. And I still have hope as well. The amount of times and niceness of the devs that post on the Cullen threads, makes me doubt that even Bioware would be that cruel.
I hope you're right. I liked him in DAO and DA2 made me like him even more. I feel like DAI is his time to shine ![]()
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#430
Posté 05 avril 2014 - 11:59
The new screen with the troll has a dual wielding rogue in the background that is sporting a salt and pepper beard, so my money is on the Grey Warden being a dual wielder like Duncan. Unless, of course, that was an Inquisitor.
Maybe it is just wishful thinking on my part, but I badly need either the Warden or IB not to be a warrior so I can has my Cullen companion. =p
Maybe it's Cole after fusing with Lambert and possessing his body? I really don't know at this point.
#431
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 01:25
I just dont see the point of having him as a ncp for all three games. I would like him as a companion. Flemeth and Sandal and Bohdan could potentially be ncps in all three games I suppose, but I think if the plan is to include Cullen given his skills, I would like to see him fight alongside the Inquisitor.As opposed to a companion? Or just in general? To his credit, he's a proven soldier, he's seen firsthand what happened in Kirkwall, and he has experience with demons and abominations. My guess is that he was the de facto Knight-Commander after Meredith was petrified, so he'll have some clout once Inquisition rolls around and a more nuanced view than most in his position. He seems perfectly suited as an adviser NPC (or companion) to me.
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#432
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 02:37
Cullen is one of the best NPC's in the series.
I'm not in his fanclub, but he's the character with the most interesting character development in the entire series.
Maker bless you. The main reason I even want him as a LI is because he's such an interesting character. Or at least, has been set up with the potential to be one. I think everyone assumes Cullen fans (especially when they're female) only like or care about him for his appearance but there are plenty of handsome NPCs in the game I wouldn't touch under threat of death. It's much more than just that.
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#433
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 08:18
Cullen's undergone a lot of character development so him joining the Inquisition doesn't seem like it would be out of character for him. He would probably be the more Morally conservative voice while someone like Leliana would tend towards the pragmatic.
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#434
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 08:59
if Cullen was a LI, the poor guy would be ripped to shreds by his fanbase!
ok, i'm serious now. this NPC is one of the most interesting/alive/believable chars i've ever seen in games (not just DA). i cannot put my finger on it tho! maybe because he changed his view about mage/templar interaction so many times - reacting on quite mind-changing events. maybe because he didn't get too much dialogue to make him overcoloured character ![]()
EDIT: i need my coffee. if random enter screws up my posts, it cannot be good.
on topic tho:
i really enjoy the idea of additional NPCs (and Leliana, and unknown yet charming scribe girl), although i cannot imagine their roles. advise how? as in give me quests? or tell me how to develop my keeps? or what?
as much as i like Leliana, i'd tell her to stuff it if she told me how to run my little inquisition ![]()
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#435
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 10:05
Maker bless you. The main reason I even want him as a LI is because he's such an interesting character. Or at least, has been set up with the potential to be one. I think everyone assumes Cullen fans (especially when they're female) only like or care about him for his appearance but there are plenty of handsome NPCs in the game I wouldn't touch under threat of death. It's much more than just that.
Well put!One of the main reasons I like him as a character,is because he's far from the cliché shy,awkward guy with no backbone (I don't really like clichés that much...).
From the little we've seen of him,he indeed seems to be an introvert and soft spoken,but he also appears to be strong willed,disciplined and capable to be in a position of power,which quite refreshing in my opinion since we often see characters like him portrayed as weak-willed and submissive in literature,media etc...So yeah even though I don't really expect him to be a companion at the moment,I'd really like to have him along and at this point I wouldn't give a dime if he was a LI or not(If given the choice though,I'd prefer the first *coughs*)I'm intrigued to see what his thoughts on the whole chaos between the templars and mages,the chantry and the red templars, are...After all the events he witnessed his input will be interesting.
I hope the Scribe Lady is a LI. Looks cute
I think she's Rivaini
That would be interesting,If I remember correctly I read somewhere that Vivienne is of Rivaini origin as well...I'm not sure if this is accurate though.Anyway by her outfit I'd assume that she's the type that associates with high society and prosperous people,so I'd say that she might be some sort of financial advisor or smth...
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#436
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 11:28
Cullen is one of the best NPC's in the series.
I'm not in his fanclub, but he's the character with the most interesting character development in the entire series.
I strongly disagree. He has development, yes, but I wouldn't call it the most interesting of all.
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#437
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 12:44
But Im fine with him being a NPC. I just hope he's not a companion.
#438
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 01:39
Maybe it's Cole after fusing with Lambert and possessing his body? I really don't know at this point.
I believe it's rogue!Inq.
#439
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 02:07
I strongly disagree. He has development, yes, but I wouldn't call it the most interesting of all.
I think people find Cullen's character development especially interesting because he's been always a NPC. The protagonist didn't have anything to do with said character development, even with the Mage Origin. No dialogues with life-changing decisions, no loyalty quests to complete. The decisions Cullen has made so far have been his and his alone (even if he chose badly sometimes).
Since people are used to games revolving around the protagonist and having control of the characters' development, that makes Cullen more independent as a character. If you like his character or not, or said character development, that's another matter. I, for one, look forward to seeing him in Inquisition, as a companion or a NPC.
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#440
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 02:11
I believe it's rogue!Inq.
Yeah, it seems like a rogue Inquisitor. None of the other characters in that scene are an Inquisitor.
#441
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 04:13
I strongly disagree. He has development, yes, but I wouldn't call it the most interesting of all.
I guess it's entirely subjective. Who do you find more interesting?
#442
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 04:54
Cullen is overrated. And people seem to forget the terrible things he did that after the events of DAO.
But Im fine with him being a NPC. I just hope he's not a companion.
You mean the DA:O epilogue, I presume? Those are just rumours, and we know they're lies now.
Yes, he wanted to invoke the right of annulment at the circle in Ferelden but he was held and tortured by blood mages and demons for weeks, possibly months. He was not in his right mind. We've seen since then that he's actually quite reasonable, especially in light of what happened to him.
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#443
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 05:34
You mean the DA:O epilogue, I presume? Those are just rumours, and we know they're lies now.
Yes, he wanted to invoke the right of annulment at the circle in Ferelden but he was held and tortured by blood mages and demons for weeks, possibly months. He was not in his right mind. We've seen since then that he's actually quite reasonable, especially in light of what happened to him.
So the epilogues are just 'rumours' now? Sounds more like 'handwaving and retcons' to me.
#444
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 06:37
So the epilogues are just 'rumours' now? Sounds more like 'handwaving and retcons' to me.
Only if you think it's a bad thing that they're freeing up characters, locations and storylines for future games. If the epilogue slides are now considered a mistake, because they tied down so much of Origins' content, then making them rumours allows some to be true, or partially true, while others can change.
Developers can admit to mistakes and change their minds. It might look ungainly when the handwaving is blatant, but I hardly want them to be stuck with implementing every single Origins epilogue to the letter out of some misguided fixation on honouring something that was laid down five years ago.
(And really, things like this don't worry me. It's not nearly as egregious as the rachni, plus it's entirely reasonable that in-universe sources like the slides got things wrong. We don't know who wrote them, for example, or when they were written, or for whom they were written.)
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#445
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 08:02
#446
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 08:27
The scribe looks like an early concept of vivienne
They're different characters, David said so a fair while ago in a thread I can't find.
A video also had this bit of concept art, where Scribe Lady (first) and Vivienne (third) are seen next to each other:

#447
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 08:28
She did my first PT with a rogue Hawke, she did much better the second time around with my mage Hawke Force Pushing everything for her, but I still chose Varric over her when I needed a mage because she couldn't get the hardest locks.
You seemed to be very confused. Varric is no better at picking locks than Isabela is. There are thresh-holds in the Cunning modifier that let you pick locks as well as gear that boosts your chance. Also, you said earlier that if you put points into cunning, her dexterity would suffer and she would die more... do you even read what stats do? Cunning boosts your defense so if anything she should be dying less if you put more points into her cunning. Dexterity affects a rogue's crit chance and chance to hit; that's it.
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#448
Posté 06 avril 2014 - 09:39
... do you even read what stats do?
FYI You might want to pump some points into your "conversation" and "politeness" stats.
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#449
Posté 07 avril 2014 - 01:50
You seemed to be very confused. Varric is no better at picking locks than Isabela is. There are thresh-holds in the Cunning modifier that let you pick locks as well as gear that boosts your chance. Also, you said earlier that if you put points into cunning, her dexterity would suffer and she would die more... do you even read what stats do? Cunning boosts your defense so if anything she should be dying less if you put more points into her cunning. Dexterity affects a rogue's crit chance and chance to hit; that's it.
You would think, but alas, my first game Isabela was an expert in face planting unless I watched over her. The second, I decided not to bother with making her lock pick capable and she tore through enemies left and right. It might have been a different skill build, but the major change between each PT were her stats. Also, dex is the modifier for most of Isabela's duelist skills because she is supposed to be a stand and duel type of rogue. Not a back flippy stealth kind. So, yes. I know what the stats are for, and cunning got Isabela killed. Dex also affects enemies chance to hit and since Isabela is meant to fight a high dex kept her from being stabinated. Kthxbai.
#450
Posté 07 avril 2014 - 01:58
You would think, but alas, my first game Isabela was an expert in face planting unless I watched over her. The second, I decided not to bother with making her lock pick capable and she tore through enemies left and right. It might have been a different skill build, but the major change between each PT were her stats. Also, dex is the modifier for most of Isabela's duelist skills because she is supposed to be a stand and duel type of rogue. Not a back flippy stealth kind. So, yes. I know what the stats are for, and cunning got Isabela killed. Dex also affects enemies chance to hit and since Isabela is meant to fight a high dex kept her from being stabinated. Kthxbai.
Sorry, but you are wrong on DEX and Cunning.
"Dexterity
The primary attribute for rogues, high dexterity makes rogue basic attacks more likely to connect, knock an opponent back/down or set them aflame and increases the damage inflicted of all rogue attacks."
"Cunning
Cunning increases defense for all classes, so it makes sense to spend attribute points in this attribute for ALL characters. This attribute also governs critical damage, raising the effectiveness of critical hits."
"Attack
Your attack score is your chance of successfully hitting an enemy with a basic attack."
"Defense
Defense (derived from Cunning) is a character's ability to deflect, dodge or parry incoming attacks."





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