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[ZombieMasterDW]

Except for the whole being trained in the Templar magics thing. Seeker != Templar.

 

I'm a bit confused; I was saying that seekers and templars have the same anti-mage powers so Cassandra and Cullen would basically have the same abilities.

[CannotCompute]

Each Dragon Age has had at least 3 warriors. Alistair/Sten/Oghren/Dog? And Carver/Fenris/Aveline. Which, considering that there are shots of a bearded gentlemen dual wielding daggers in the last of the new screens, it looks like Feathers/Bearded Warden is doing to be a dual wielding rogue like Duncan.

 

This could mean that Cole is out and Cullen is the 3rd warrior...

[ZombieMasterDW]

Well, I'm just saying what I personally WANT. I'd like the classes to be even. I didn't mean it was a disqualifying fact objectively. 

 

It would be three, though. Cassandra/Iron Bull/Grey Warden. I'm assuming on Grey Warden, also, but I think he seems almost certain as a sword/shield warrior.

 

I agree, I want the classes to be even. When I first learned there was going to be nine companions I was a bit dissappointed, I was hoping for more companions than ever, especially since this game is going to be so much bigger in scale. And I really hope that there's three of each class, not like in Origins where most of the companions were warriors.

[GVulture]

I feel like Cullen and Cassandra would be redundant, as well. I also think Iron Bull is a warrior, so I hope the other two will be a rogue and a mage. 

9 companions, right? And we usually don't get 3 mages (Bethany was a temporary companion for the most part)

 

Varric ®, Cassandra (W), Vivienne (M), Solas (M), Iron Bull (W/R?), Sera ®, Beardy (R?)

 

We have two companions left and chances are there will be at least one more warrior. Mostly because we already have two ranged rogues and a dueler, so no chances for rogue-dom there since most people only have one at a time in a party. Last two slots are probably going to be either a warrior or a mage. Two handed warriors are where we usually get doubles warrior wise and Cullen was originally a two-hander... Him and Iron Bull will probably be our last two warriors.

[ZombieMasterDW]

This could mean that Cole is out and Cullen is the 3rd warrior...

 

 

I personally have always assumed that if Cole was in one of the games he would be a rogue, because he was always described wearing leather clothing and he had a dagger. And Cole seems rather stealthy.

[GVulture]

I'm a bit confused; I was saying that seekers and templars have the same anti-mage powers so Cassandra and Cullen would basically have the same abilities.

I don't recall the Seekers getting Templar training, considering they're not Templars. Templars work for the Chantry in the Circles and Seekers just work for the Chantry, period.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

9 companions, right? And we usually don't get 3 mages (Bethany was a temporary companion for the most part)

 

Varric ®, Cassandra (W), Vivienne (M), Solas (M), Iron Bull (W/R?), Sera ®, Beardy (R?)

 

We have two companions left and chances are there will be at least one more warrior. Mostly because we already have two ranged rogues and a dueler, so no chances for rogue-dom there since most people only have one at a time in a party. Last two slots are probably going to be either a warrior or a mage. Two handed warriors are where we usually get doubles warrior wise and Cullen was originally a two-hander... Him and Iron Bull will probably be our last two warriors.

Where did you see the picture of Grey Warden as a dueler? I haven't seen those anywhere. I'm still not convinced he isn't a warrior. All the depictions I've seen were as a sword/shield warrior.

[GVulture]

Well, I'm just saying what I personally WANT. I'd like the classes to be even. I didn't mean it was a disqualifying fact objectively. 

 

It would be three, though. Cassandra/Iron Bull/Grey Warden. I'm assuming on Grey Warden, also, but I think he seems almost certain as a sword/shield warrior.

The new screen with the troll has a dual wielding rogue in the background that is sporting a salt and pepper beard, so my money is on the Grey Warden being a dual wielder like Duncan. Unless, of course, that was an Inquisitor.

 

 

Maybe it is just wishful thinking on my part, but I badly need either the Warden or IB not to be a warrior so I can has my Cullen companion. =p

[ZombieMasterDW]

I don't recall the Seekers getting Templar training, considering they're not Templars. Templars work for the Chantry in the Circles and Seekers just work for the Chantry, period.

 

 

The codex entry from DA2 about the seekers mentions that they are used to hunt down apostates that are especially difficult to capture. It's always sounded like the seekers are a special branch of templars, that anyone who is a seeker was originally a templar.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

The new screen with the troll has a dual wielding rogue in the background that is sporting a salt and pepper beard, so my money is on the Grey Warden being a dual wielder like Duncan.

It's also possible that warriors can dual wield again. Every other shot we saw before was of sword/shield, so I'm kind of skeptical to take it on a one off. It's possible there's another explanation or it's someone else. 

 

I mean, he could be a rogue, but on the larger body of evidence, I'm pretty skeptical. He was still a sword/shield warrior in the previous game-play shot we saw, so I don't know if they would change his class that late in the game?

[CannotCompute]

I personally have always assumed that if Cole was in one of the games he would be a rogue, because he was always described wearing leather clothing and he had a dagger. And Cole seems rather stealthy.

 

I agree, but if Feathers is the 3rd Rogue, then I don't think Cole will be the 4th. In that case, Cullen could be the 3rd Warrior (instead of Feathers).

 

But it's probably just wishful thinking.

[ZombieMasterDW]

Haven't they stated that characters can equip weapons and armor that doesn't "belong" to their class? I think a character holding two weapons can be a warrior or a rogue.

[GVulture]

Haven't they stated that characters can equip weapons and armor that doesn't "belong" to their class? I think a character holding two weapons can be a warrior or a rogue.

They have confirmed that you can wear armor out of your class, but they won't confirm dual wielding for warriors, yet.

[CannotCompute]

Where did you see the picture of Grey Warden as a dueler? I haven't seen those anywhere. I'm still not convinced he isn't a warrior. All the depictions I've seen were as a sword/shield warrior.

 

True, I forgot about that for a moment. Yeah, I don't think they'd change his class. He also has the bulky appearance of a Warrior tbh.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I'll be honest, it seems more likely to me that the big figure with the sword/shield in blue is the warden, to me. The lanky figure in the photo seems like a huge revision from everything else we've seen of him. 

[GVulture]

The codex entry from DA2 about the seekers mentions that they are used to hunt down apostates that are especially difficult to capture. It's always sounded like the seekers are a special branch of templars, that anyone who is a seeker was originally a templar.

To quote:

 

 

The organization appears to act as a check and balance to the power of the Templar Order, acting in a secretive, investigative and interrogative capacity to root out corruption and protect the Chantry from internal and external threats. They also may become involved in the hunting of particularly cunning apostates. Templars fear and despise the Seekers, as they must usually involve themselves when the templars are failing in their duties.

Doesn't sound like Templars to me. Usually chosen from within Templar ranks, but not always. And Dawn of the Seeker didn't imply that she was an ex-Templar but rather got the position because her noble birth and what have you. So, again, Seeker does not mean Templar.

[ZombieMasterDW]

They have confirmed that you can wear armor out of your class, but they won't confirm dual wielding for warriors, yet.

 

Ok. I still think that most people have already assumed who all the companions are going to be simply because of some concept art and a few vague screenshots. I believe the people behind the game have said that there's still going to be some surprises. I wouldn't be very surprised if there's one, maybe even two companions who we have no idea about yet.

[Xilizhra]

You don't know just how much I do not want a fourth warrior. I almost universally like warriors less than members of every other class as a whole, and four is gross oversaturation.

[Master Warder Z_]

You don't know just how much I do not want a fourth warrior. I almost universally like warriors less than members of every other class as a whole, and four is gross oversaturation.

 

I feel the same about Rogues and yet they keep popping up in game despite being all but useless except in certain scenario's.

 

Like unlocking doors or chests, good luck trying to get them to tackle a boss i spent four hours customizing tactics for my entire party in DAO only for Zevran to not flank and use back stab abilities like programmed to but to charge head first at Cardin and get swatted away like a flea.

[GVulture]

You don't know just how much I do not want a fourth warrior. I almost universally like warriors less than members of every other class as a whole, and four is gross oversaturation.

Yes, but a well balanced party is usually one rogue/one mage. So if you play a rogue or a mage you kinda need the extra warriors.

[Master Warder Z_]

Yes, but a well balanced party is usually one rogue/one mage. So if you play a rogue or a mage you kinda need the extra warriors.

 

Because unlike rogues they are useful.

[ZombieMasterDW]

To quote:

 

Doesn't sound like Templars to me. Usually chosen from within Templar ranks, but not always. And Dawn of the Seeker didn't imply that she was an ex-Templar but rather got the position because her noble birth and what have you. So, again, Seeker does not mean Templar.

 

 

 

 

Seekers are typically chosen from the elite ranks of the templars. In their roles as overseers of the Templar Order and the right hand of the Divine, they serve as the Chantry's investigators and are given considerable latitude to function outside the law. The leadership hierarchy of the Seekers runs parallel to that of the templars, although a senior Seeker outranks any templar.

 

I just got that off the Dragon Age Wiki, although I suppose wikis aren't always 100% fact. Still though it does seem like the seekers are the elite templars.

[Xilizhra]

Yes, but a well balanced party is usually one rogue/one mage. So if you play a rogue or a mage you kinda need the extra warriors.

Absolutely never in my experience. I've used three mages and one rogue plenty of times and had good results with them. Warriors have the least indispensable role. In fact, I've never once used more than one warrior if I had the choice.

[GVulture]

I feel the same about Rogues and yet they keep popping up in game despite being all but useless except in certain scenario's.

 

Like unlocking doors or chests, good luck trying to get them to tackle a boss i spent four hours customizing tactics for my entire party in DAO only for Zevran to not flank and use back stab abilities like programmed to but to charge head first at Cardin and get swatted away like a flea.

Thiiiiiis. I only need two rogues. Ever. Dragon Age 2 involved me blatantly ignoring either Sebastian or Isabela because if I played a rogue or had Varric with me they were uselessssss.

 

But I could never go wrong with two warriors in my party. Aveline and Fenris would throw down no matter what the scrap.

 

Because again, well balanced party= mage, rogue, one tank warrior, one DPS warrior.

[Xilizhra]

Thiiiiiis. I only need two rogues. Ever. Dragon Age 2 involved me blatantly ignoring either Sebastian or Isabela because if I played a rogue or had Varric with me they were uselessssss.

 

But I could never go wrong with two warriors in my party. Aveline and Fenris would throw down no matter what the scrap.

 

Because again, well balanced party= mage, rogue, one tank warrior, one DPS warrior.

Again, I've absolutely not had this experience.