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[Hanako Ikezawa]

So if you're offended by his statements just ignore the guy.

He isn't mean enough to put him on the ignore list. Only when you try to have a conversation on the other side of the fence as him does he get mean.

[ElitePinecone]

If they inted give us warrior A pro chantry/mage/other they will have to or we will have another retarded protagonist that holds enemy as adviser so i don't think that leliana , cullen , anders or fenris or any character like them should be advisor. They should put neutral new characters as advisors not pro-templar knight capitan when you are butchering templars same for any other side...

 

I think it's wise to wait and see what the characters are actually like in Inquisition before rushing to judge them.

 

That being said, this is Bioware's game - and at the moment, it doesn't look like you can pick and choose between advisors. If that bothers you, you're welcome to not buy the game.

 

This thread is getting off-topic now, by the way. Talking about one user is not exactly relevant.

[GVulture]

Infamous well mostly because pro-mages went into rage mode when i suggested that killing mages will solve problem with mages

I don't find viewing mage vs. templar conflict as anything other than messy case of grey vs. gray instead of black vs. white to be particularly helpful to either situation.

 

That said, while some people don't dislike Leliana, but they're not to joking about throwing her off a rampart or kicking her out of the Inquisition just because "lol, she sucks, the game is gonna suck if this one character I think sucks is gonna be around sucking it up".

[TheKomandorShepard]

I think it's wise to wait and see what the characters are actually like in Inquisition before rushing to judge them.

 

That being said, this is Bioware's game - and at the moment, it doesn't look like you can pick and choose between advisors. If that bothers you, you're welcome to not buy the game.

 

This thread is getting off-topic now, by the way. Talking about one user is not exactly relevant.

 

Im waiting but i also express concern that i don't it will be horrible resolved like puting forced advisors that are conflicting with my character goals or morality so last thing i need when im anti-qunari is pro-qunari arishok as adviser.Same horrible thing they did with pro-templar Hawke and Anders and Merril...

 

 

 

I don't find viewing mage vs. templar conflict as anything other than messy case of grey vs. gray instead of black vs. white to be particularly helpful to either situation.

 

That said, while some people don't dislike Leliana, but they're not to joking about throwing her off a rampart or kicking her out of the Inquisition just because "lol, she sucks, the game is gonna suck if this one character I think sucks is gonna be around sucking it up".

 

I see both as black vs black with lighter shades one 1 side...

 

And i don't want throw her out of game (well i want but from other reasons) i don't want her in my organisation when i will oppose her ideals and goals...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Im waiting but i also express concern that i don't it will be horrible resolved like puting forced advisors that are conflicting with my character goals or morality so last thing i need when im anti-qunari is pro-qunari arishok as adviser.Same horrible thing they did with pro-templar Hawke and Anders and Merril...

You would never have the Arishok as an adviser. Just saying. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

You would never have the Arishok as an adviser. Just saying. 

It was an example.

[GVulture]

Im waiting but i also express concern that i don't it will be horrible resolved like puting forced advisors that are conflicting with my character goals or morality so last thing i need when im anti-qunari is pro-qunari arishok as adviser.Same horrible thing they did with pro-templar Hawke and Anders and Merril...

 

 

 

 

I see both as black vs black with lighter shades one 1 side...

 

And i don't want throw her out of game (well i want but from other reasons) i don't want her in my organisation when i will oppose her ideals and goals...

Having a bunch of yes men on your group of advisers is a good way to get your organization bankrupt, send you to war, and get yourself ousted from power when you bugger everything up. Just ask Cersei Lannister. You need conflicting opinions to stimulate ideas and compromise. Otherwise you're running a dictatorship and that is a good way to get yourself assassinated.

[Zazzerka]

That's why they're advisors, TKS. You don't have to listen to a word they say.

[GVulture]

Good advisers give you the skinny of the thoughts of ALL the people you might encounter or advice that would cover any contingency. If they're only agreeing with you, or hold your own beliefs then they might not warn you that rushing off to set fire to an alienage might leave you vulnerable to attack from someone else.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Having a bunch of yes men on your group of advisers is a good way to get your organization bankrupt, send you to war, and get yourself ousted from power when you bugger everything up. Just ask Cersei Lannister. You need conflicting opinions to stimulate ideas and compromise. Otherwise you're running a dictatorship and that is a good way to get yourself assassinated.

 

Having enemy as your adviser is worse it was like the warden chose archdemon as his adviser in destruction of blight.

 

W so what now?

A So that abyss? go there and jump

W ok (dies)

 

 

That's why they're advisors, TKS. You don't have to listen to a word they say.

 

 

Yes because peoples who you destroyed life ,burned house with their family and kill all their friends are best advisers..

 

 

Good advisers give you the skinny of the thoughts of ALL the people you might encounter or advice that would cover any contingency. If they're only agreeing with you, or hold your own beliefs then they might not warn you that rushing off to set fire to an alienage might leave you vulnerable to attack from someone else.

 

good adviser should be neutral and if tell you to support certain group not because his ideals tell him to support that group but because it is beneficial for your organisation...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Having a bunch of yes men on your group of advisers is a good way to get your organization bankrupt, send you to war, and get yourself ousted from power when you bugger everything up. Just ask Cersei Lannister. You need conflicting opinions to stimulate ideas and compromise. Otherwise you're running a dictatorship and that is a good way to get yourself assassinated.

Shh, let him discover that on his own.

 

 

That's why they're advisors, TKS. You don't have to listen to a word they say.

Yeah, history is full of leaders throwing the advice of their advisers out the window. Just look at Origins with King Cailan. 

[GVulture]

Having enemy as your adviser is worse it was like the warden chose archdemon as his adviser in destruction of blight.

 

W so what now?

A So that abyss? go there and jump

W ok (dies)

An adviser you don't like and agree with is not the same as the enemy. And again... they're advisers. You're still supposed to think for yourself.

[Zazzerka]

Yes because peoples who you destroyed life ,burned house with their family and kill all their friends are best advisers..

 

The Inqusitor burned down his Qunari advisor's family?

 

Well... that does change things!

[TheKomandorShepard]

An adviser you don't like and agree with is not the same as the enemy. And again... they're advisers. You're still supposed to think for yourself.

Yeah burn fereldens lets hire king alistair as adviser! and oh let them to your secrets...

 

 

The Inqusitor burned down his Qunari advisor's family?

 

Well... that does change things!

 

Well that is point when you are burning qunari on stake it is rather stupid to hire pro qunari well qunari....

[Zazzerka]

Well that is point when you are burning qunari on stake it is rather stupid to hire pro qunari well qunari....

 

Sure, but who's burning Qunari at the stake?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

You realize you aren't going to be nearly this extreme, right TKS?

[TheKomandorShepard]

You realize you aren't going to be nearly this extreme, right TKS?

Well i have deal with that because otherwise you don't understand that...

[Nocte ad Mortem]

This guy isn't going to change his mind. It's just going to end with the thread getting locked if it keeps going this way. You might as well let it go with him.

[The Spanish Inquisitor]

Theory have merits, and sounds awesome.  But also makes a lot of sense, We got a seneschal in Awakenings, so being the leader of the Inquisition should be have common ideas, like your base, the Castle of Sky Hold if thats what its called. Being customizable , and able to be upgraded later. so I am sure there will be people in the organization who will not be party member.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well i have deal with that because otherwise you don't understand that...

Can you clarify?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

This guy isn't going to change his mind. It's just going to end with the thread getting locked if it keeps going this way. You might as well let it go with him.

Then to stay on topic, since we know Cullen is an LI and he may be an adviser, does anyone else think the other two advisers may be romancable as well?

[TheKomandorShepard]

Can you clarify?

Well i have bring extreme examples because otherwise you ignore them... sadly trying to tell me that hiring enemy and peoples that will hate me as advisors isn't horrible idea.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Then to stay on topic, since we know Cullen is an LI and he may be an adviser, does anyone else think the other two advisers may be romancable as well?

I don't think Leliana will. I think people might get mad if they re-used her, since she was already romanced to the Warden, even if she doesn't seem to be still invested in it. I think there's a decent chance Scribe Girl might be a romance.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well i have bring extreme examples because otherwise you ignore them... sadly trying to tell me that hiring enemy and peoples that will hate me as advisors is horrible idea.

Extreme examples actually hurt your case more than help it. 

 

And the fact they are helping you at all means they don't entirely hate you or at least see working with you better than the alternative. After all, the Inquisitor is the only one who can close the Veil Tears apparently.

 

 

I don't think Leliana will. I think people might get mad if they re-used her, since she was already romanced to the Warden, even if she doesn't seem to be still invested in it. I think there's a decent chance Scribe Girl might be a romance.

It would be interesting though to have a Leliana romance, but only if not with the Warden already romancing her. Though she pretty much definitely won't be. Scribe Girl would be nice to have if Cullen is a LI adviser as the female counterpart.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Extreme examples actually hurt your case more than help it. 

 

And the fact they are helping you at all means they don't entirely hate you or at least see working with you better than the alternative. After all, the Inquisitor is the only one who can close the Veil Tears apparently.

 

 

Do i have again use extreme example?

 

As i said that they are helping me now doesn't mean they will help me few moment latter like zevran...

 

So in practice i have to use extre read burned qunari and pro-qunari adviser that hiring pro-chantry if you are anti-chantry as well your organisation is horrible idea because less or more it is your enemy... another matter that such adviser won't adivse you what is best for your organisation but what is best for their organisation and ideals...