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[ElitePinecone]

It would be best if there is multiple choices for you to select who your sub-commanders could be.

 

This doesn't really sound feasible, especially if there's a significant amount of content associated with that position. Not to mention that the more options you had to choose from, the less content they'd all get.

 

If there's an entire questline about improving the quality of the Inquisition's army that involves, say, a dozen conversations with Cullen, how could it work if you could replace that character with many others? 

[ZombieMasterDW]

I was thinking maybe near the start of the game after you are placed in charge of the inquisition there might be some people who are already involved in the inquisition who you could select to be your spymaster, or general or something like that. Also I wonder if Briala from the next novel could be your spymaster? She already has been the spymaster for the Empress of Orlais.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think Inquisition will have a "bigger issue" tone, like Origins did. You'll probably have to bring a bunch of groups together to work against some bigger, worse force that will just kill everyone if they keep up bickering and ignoring it. So, there will probably be groups that usually wouldn't work together under any other circumstances that you have to get on board. 

[TK514]

You don't become the Left Hand without learning to delegate. She says the only reason she came to Kirkwall herself was to be an unbiased eye and not get filtered info.

I try not to let gameplay color my impressions, but Faith doesn't really inspire confidence in her abilities.

Having said that, I don't have a horse in this race. I tossed out Varric because he already has close ties with, or is a key player in, two continent spanning information networks. I don't see his inclusion as a party member to be of any great impediment, since he ran around shooting people in the face with Hawke for ten years, ran the Tehtras merchant concerns through a cutout, wrote a serial novel, maintained ties with both the guards and criminal underbelly well enough to know who's palms to grease for looking the other way, and had several sources inside the Carta.

The man's a genius, at least, and might as well be a mob boss.

If we have a spymaster and it happens to be great shoes Leliana, however, my feelings won't be hurt. I like her, too.

[ZombieMasterDW]

This doesn't really sound feasible, especially if there's a significant amount of content associated with that position. Not to mention that the more options you had to choose from, the less content they'd all get.

 

If there's an entire questline about improving the quality of the Inquisition's army that involves, say, a dozen conversations with Cullen, how could it work if you could replace that character with many others? 

 

 

Well when I say "multiple choices" I was really only thinking two, maybe three choices depending on how important the position is. And perhaps who your sub-commanders can be is affected by which background you have and/or what race you play as?

[GVulture]

So, he'd remain tied to the Chantry? Why should the mages trust them any more?

Because he is a moderate who was known for voicing for moderation and that a Templar's duty to protect mages and give them all a chance and not assume they're all power hungry mages. That's who'd I would want in charge of negotiations if they were working towards any kind of new system without the Chantry.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I doubt the mages would trust Cullen alone, but they might feel like they basically have to back the Inquisitor if there's a bigger bad guy that only he can defeat, like the warden collecting support against the blight. Which is probably also why Cullen would be there if the Inquisitor is primarily backing the mages.

[Knight of Dane]

Why is it that all mages are being lumped together in the first place?

I find it hard to imagine that every mage would be opposed to Cullen too.

[Master Warder Z_]

Why is it that all mages are being lumped together in the first place?

I find it hard to imagine that every mage would be opposed to Cullen too.

 

Why are people assuming Cullen would be a Moderate?

 

Its speculation friend.

[GVulture]

Also, if working towards a NonChantry solution for the mages, there would need to be someone preaching for the Templar duty of keeping mages from accidentally blowing themselves up with their anti magic magic.

Templars aren't just around watching for mages are eyeing sharp objects or whispering to deep voiced shadows, ya know.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Why are people assuming Cullen would be a Moderate?

 

Its speculation friend.

If he was hoisted on everyone as their military adviser, you can basically be sure he'd be a moderate. They wouldn't force your hand siding in the mage/templar conflict in either direction. There's literally no other way they could explode their fanbase quicker. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Also, if working towards a NonChantry solution for the mages, there would need to be someone preaching for the Templar duty of keeping mages from accidentally blowing themselves up with their anti magic magic.

 

I nominate Ser Karras.

[Master Warder Z_]

If he was hoisted on everyone as their military adviser, you can basically be sure he'd be a moderate. They wouldn't force your hand siding in the mage/templar conflict in either direction. There's literally no other way they could explode their fanbase quicker. 

 

Operating under the speculation that he unlike most characters in DA doesn't have misgivings, bias or opinions.

 

Forcing the PC? No, Leaving if you make the "wrong" choice? Maybe.

[Hellion Rex]

Why are people assuming Cullen would be a Moderate?

 

Its speculation friend.

He always struck me as more moderate, but his experiences in Kirkwall and Lake Calenhad probably hardened him, since he has been a part of 2 out of the 3 Annulments within the past decade.

[Hellion Rex]

I nominate Ser Karras.

Hahah, no.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Operating under the speculation that he unlike most characters in DA doesn't have misgivings, bias or opinions.

 

Forcing the PC? No, Leaving if you make the "wrong" choice? Maybe.

He wouldn't be much of an extremist if he was willing to go along with you siding against the templars, even if he was a bit grumpy about it, would he? 

[Master Warder Z_]

Hahah, no.

 

Bah! Fine!  Ser Mettin!

[GVulture]

He always struck me as more moderate, but his experiences in Kirkwall and Lake Calenhad probably hardened him, since he has been a part of 2 out of the 3 Annulments within the past decade.

Called for full Annulment in one and mercy and moderation in the other, sounds moderate to me. Or, at least, able to judge each situation on its own rather than being prejudiced either way. Again... sounds moderate to me.

 

Last I will say about Mages Vs. Templar:

 

People forget that Templars aren't just about rounding mages up and keeping them locked away. Their Templar...ness is what keeps untrained and fledgling mages SAFE. Their magical Magic-Null AOEs keep little ones from say... getting mad at a farm boy and setting a barn on fire like Wynne did. They don't take mages away from their families to be meaner heads. They take them away because muggles CAN'T keep their children safe. It takes a TRAINED mage or a Templar to keep a young mage from setting their eye brows on fire when they sneeze.

If Templar...dom was all about locking up mages and throwing away the key, mages would never... never... NEVER be allowed out of the Circle and they do. Often. They just have to pass their Harrowing and act like a grown up and not run around setting things on fire like Anders used to.

[Master Warder Z_]

He wouldn't be much of an extremist if he was willing to go along with you siding against the templars, even if he was a bit grumpy about it, would he? 

 

See i view alliances of the Inquisition are going to be loose and non cemented like they were in Origins, if you work against faction interests you risk losing their support, if you support the Templars but then start aiding the mages, you likely risk losing them. The same goes for the portions of the Inquisition they supply, If you work against the Templars i can see Cullen leaving.

 

He had disagreements with both his Knight Commanders but he has never spoken ill of the order it self and its a very high leap to assume he would be perfectly content to be party to the murder of men who would call him brother. I can't see it personally, you take vows when you become a Templar after all, it isn't something to be done on a whim.

 

Maybe i am merely looking at it through the perspective of some one who has hoisted on a uniform before and sworn an oath, i likely have bias about not taking oaths of service lightly.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Called for full Annulment in one and mercy and moderation in the other, sounds moderate to me. Or, at least, able to judge each situation on its own rather than being prejudiced either way. Again... sounds moderate to me.

I think it's more that he wasn't really mentally capable of making the right call the first time and he probably realized that a decade later. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Called for full Annulment in one and mercy and moderation in the other, sounds moderate to me. Or, at least, able to judge each situation on its own rather than being prejudiced either way. Again... sounds moderate to me.

 

See this is the issue i take with "extremism" its so often viewed as mere Pejorative that it cannot be judged on its own merits, it has to be blind, uncompromising and unchanging, it cannot be adaptive.

 

Extremism doesn't define the mindset as it cannot change or adapt, it merely intones that you have preset preferences that are deeply ingrained.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

See i view alliances of the Inquisition are going to be loose and non cemented like they were in Origins, if you work against faction interests you risk losing their support, if you support the Templars but then start aiding the mages, you likely risk losing them. The same goes for the portions of the Inquisition they supply, If you work against the Templars i can see Cullen leaving.

 

He had disagreements with both his Knight Commanders but he has never spoken ill of the order it self and its a very high leap to assume he would be perfectly content to be party to the murder of men who would call him brother. I can't see it personally, you take vows when you become a Templar after all, it isn't something to be done on a whim.

 

Maybe i am merely looking at it through the perspective of some one who has hoisted on a uniform before and sworn an oath, i likely have bias about not taking oaths of service lightly.

I sort of doubt the three adviser can leave. I think it would be too game breaking if they did. Whoever the three advisers are, I think we are going to be stuck with them the whole way through. 

[Xilizhra]

Because he is a moderate who was known for voicing for moderation and that a Templar's duty to protect mages and give them all a chance and not assume they're all power hungry mages. That's who'd I would want in charge of negotiations if they were working towards any kind of new system without the Chantry.

Known by whom? A pro-templar Hawke? How would that information reach the mages at all, especially since his "moderation" could only barely be called that?

[Master Warder Z_]

I sort of doubt the three adviser can leave. I think it would be too game breaking if they did. Whoever the three advisers are, I think we are going to be stuck with them the whole way through. 

 

See now you are clinging to game mechanics as a defense when we have no idea if we will even be gaining advisers, for all we know it could be a dictatorship.

[ZombieMasterDW]

If you're working with Cullen I wonder if you're going to have to keep him (And any other templars you side with) supplied with lyrium. Maybe you can ally yourself with Orzammar, or the Carta depending on your choices, to get a steady supply of lyrium.