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#226
nakamurateru

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I would highly doubt it's just epilogue slides anyway since we're supposed to be able to continue playing after the end of the story.

 

I'd be happy if a game had even three distinct endings, so regardless if it's actually 40 endings or not, I'm sure I'll be happy.



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So I take it you're completly disregarding what Mark Darrah has said? :s

Yep. I made the mistake of believing "there wont be ABC endings" and "16 possible endings" etc...40 endings probably means:

 

ending 1: You beat the game with Varric, Vivienne, and Solas

ending 2: You beat the game with Varric, Vivienne, and Cassandra

ending 3: You beat the game with Varric, Iron Bull, and Solas

etc...which means you have different characters in your cutscene which stays the same or you beat it as an elf/dwarf/Qunari/human and there is a line saying "good job, you have made ____(elves/dwarves/Qunari/humans) proud!" Or maybe the fade explodes into various colors. Seriously, DA:O had 2 endings that were different but so short that you don't really notice (you die and there is a funeral, or you live and are in the throne room being congratulated) it was the epilogue slides that made the difference. ME1-2 each had one ending (makes sense of course since it needed to proceed into a sequel) DA2 had one ending no matter what you did, and so did ME3 other than the color of the explosions and then with that DLC 6 months later you get a differing speech too (equivalent to the epilogue slides). What would possibly make me believe that there would be multiple unique endings?



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Yep. I made the mistake of believing "there wont be ABC endings" and "16 possible endings" etc...40 endings probably means:

 

ending 1: You beat the game with Varric, Vivienne, and Solas

ending 2: You beat the game with Varric, Vivienne, and Cassandra

ending 3: You beat the game with Varric, Iron Bull, and Solas

etc...which means you have different characters in your cutscene which stays the same or you beat it as an elf/dwarf/Qunari/human and there is a line saying "good job, you have made ____(elves/dwarves/Qunari/humans) proud!" Or maybe the fade explodes into various colors. Seriously, DA:O had 2 endings that were different but so short that you don't really notice (you die and there is a funeral, or you live and are in the throne room being congratulated) it was the epilogue slides that made the difference. ME1-2 each had one ending (makes sense of course since it needed to proceed into a sequel) DA2 had one ending no matter what you did, and so did ME3 other than the color of the explosions and then with that DLC 6 months later you get a differing speech too (equivalent to the epilogue slides). What would possibly make me believe that there would be multiple unique endings?

The 16 endings was claim was made by IGN (and Prima guides) not Bioware.



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The 16 endings was claim was made by IGN (and Prima guides) not Bioware.

I think most people forget this on purpose just so they can have an excuse to throw all the blame at Bioware


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That's a fairly hysterical post, Nefla. Am I right that we're not meant to take it seriously?
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It's times like this that I wish there was a notice board with all the Dev posts, so that this confusion and misunderstanding wouldn't occur.



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That's a fairly hysterical post, Nefla. Am I right that we're not meant to take it seriously?


Worded more plainly: to expect DA:I to have 40 endings that are distinct in any way (other than throw away things like your party present or your race) is ridiculous. They have not done anything like this in the past, and we were fed similar information tht proved false about previous games. (I didn't know the 16 endings was IGN, but the abc endings and wildly different conclusions and your choices having an effect...that was all BioWare) This is not me trying to be mean, I simply don't believe it. At all.

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Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I wish Bioware had never made that statement about 40 endings. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter how good DAI's endings are, there will inevitably be people who will use that statement 6-12 months from now as "evidence" for why DAI didn't meet their expectations and how Bioware "lied" to them. I hate to be so cynical, but making statements like that just seems to be giving ammunition to the anti-bioware bandwagon.


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It's times like this that I wish there was a notice board with all the Dev posts, so that this confusion and misunderstanding wouldn't occur.

Sounds like a thread someone could make akin to how that Twitter thread is set up :P


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Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I wish Bioware had never made that statement about 40 endings. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter how good DAI's endings are, there will inevitably be people who will use that statement 6-12 months from now as "evidence" for why DAI didn't meet their expectations and how Bioware "lied" to them. I hate to be so cynical, but making statements like that just seems to be giving ammunition to the anti-bioware bandwagon.


If it ended up being true (a small number of unique endings with lots of unique smaller variables) people will have nothing to complain about. It's only a problem when it's just PR telling people what thy want to hear and it not being true in the slightest.

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Sounds like a thread someone could make akin to how that Twitter thread is set up :P

done :D



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it's gonna be 1 main ending with 39 possible side quest ending ramifications seen at end game



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Personally, after finally getting around to playing DA2, I'll trust IGN before I trust user reviews again.


Amen to that.

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So....does the number of endings really matter all that much? I said earlier this conversation is superfluous, but seeing people carry on with it...I can't help but be compelled to ask why the number is so important?



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After ME3 AND DA2...I trust more of an effort will be made regarding the endings. They know this is a sensitive subject.

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This seems pretty ridiculous to me. A few different outcomes based on choices madecwould be neat. 40 is silly IMHO. I hope they arent shootong themselves in the foot but over reaching or over promising.

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I remember a while back in some interview or Q&A, Bioware stated that Dragon Age is not Mass Effect (duh), in that tis not a trilogy so there's no similar contraint. The story, in Inquisition or future dragon age games, could skip months and years, or even centuries should they choose to follow that path. The game could likewise move to a whole other location and any previous decisions would be a moot point as it won't affect the player's story line, OR, just rumours. Either way, it could be deal in a text format in the same way the other background stories are done.

There's a lot more flexibility on their part in this series, than Mass Effect is what I'm saying. As far as lessons learned from ME3 ending, the shock from my first playthrough has worn down quite a bit, I'm still not happy about it, but it's less about the story which doesn't matter really, and more about the execution. It feels rushed and more could be done. (Well there's always more that could be done, but it's just not quite there for me). So, if I have any beef with Inquisition, it'll be how much of what they decide to do have they perfected before it's sold. That's all. Don't rush the game too too much.


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So....does the number of endings really matter all that much? I said earlier this conversation is superfluous, but seeing people carry on with it...I can't help but be compelled to ask why the number is so important?

 

I suppose because Bioware apparantly thinks it important, as they feel the need to announce this information well before the game is released.



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I want to hang this up on a wall just so you know how much I'm holding you to this

 

what you talking about? there is probably over 50 between DA:O and DA2 already, they will just be adding more, and sooner or later it will be reaching something like 20! (thats 20 factorial)



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I suppose because Bioware apparantly thinks it important, as they feel the need to announce this information well before the game is released.

 

Or do they announce it because it is expected of them? Ergo, its important for some reason, to everyone else.



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I think it gives a good ballpark estimation of how much impact our choices will have, so it's not completely superfluous. Mind you, I'm thinking that those 40 endings will be on the level of the more flavour-type epilogues in DAO, like what happened to the people we impacted (Bella, Katlyn, Connor, etc.), because on a personal scale it can be a good pat on the back, without messing up continuity for future games.

 

What was referred to as "completely unique endings" are the "Who is king?" and "What happens to Orzammar?" caliber IMO.



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Hmmm, I don't see how this is possible for that many endings.  Were they misquoted?  Do they mean 40 flags/decisions within the game which will actually determine the outcome and the ending that you will get?  I'd say it's closer to this; I could be wrong, time will tell. 

 

Didn't we get six different endings for DAO? 



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whatever this might mean, people, wait for the release before you buy it

 

Hey guys,

I just want to clarify the endings in Dragon Age: Inquisition

Dragon Age Inquisition's endings variations come in three levels

1. Minor variations based upon choices you make in the game or previous games. There are HUNDREDS of these variations. 

2. Major variations based upon larger decisions in the game. There are about forty of these

3. Completely unique endings. There are a small number of these

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Well I hadn't planned on buying it pre-release, yeah.

EDIT: Oh, I getcha. Don't drop $60 (or its equivalent) prior to the release of the game.

...I'm good, <3 ME3, but sure, if you have reservations then go right ahead and speak against them with your wallet.

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It's a nice thought, having all those endings, but I'd like to see what these 40 'major' variations are before I comment. Seems a bit suspicious though, and the term 'major' means so many different things to so many different people...