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[GVulture]

If I know that Fiona and Maric hook up and have baby Alistair, can I skip The Calling and start reading Asunder? Will I miss out on anything important in The Calling that I don't already know from Awakening?

[Master Warder Z_]

You will miss how the Wardens initially uncovered the first of the sentient Darkspawn and the Architects original plan.

 

Also a good deal of Duncan's back story and how Maric was doing during the aftermath of the war to retake his country.

 

A few other things as well.

[GVulture]

You will miss how the Wardens initially uncovered the first of the sentient Darkspawn and the Architects original plan.

 

Also a good deal of Duncan's back story and how Maric was doing during the aftermath of the war to retake his country.

 

A few other things as well.

But in terms of Inquisition prep, not as important as reading Asunder and the Masked Empire?

[Master Warder Z_]

But in terms of Inquisition prep, not as important as reading Asunder and the Masked Empire?

 

Those two are much more recent, the calling and stolen throne were both pre Origins, so obviously things that are closer in time frame to DAI will be more relevant.

[GVulture]

True. Just having a hard time getting into The Calling and I want to read Masked Empire when it comes out... Maybe I should just suck it up and finish it. I am already halfway through.

[Knight of Dane]

The Calling was my least favorite of the books.

 

I'd still say you should read Stolen Throne, that's the best one.

[Reznore57]

If I remember correctly The Calling would just help you understand about the Architect , Loghain not liking the wardens , and well Marric's private life.

Not much to do with Asunder , there's just Fiona ...you'd get her background story.

She doesn't have a huge role in Asunder anyway.

 

If you really don't want to read the book , you can read a short version on the DA wiki and go ahead and read Asunder.

[wcholcombe]

I liked The Calling. It gives a different perspective.  I liked Asunder better.  Stolen Throne it depends.  It jumps around a bit too much in the timeline for me.  I vary between stolen throne and callling for least favorite.

 

I like them all.

 

BTW it is fanfiction/head canon that Alistair is Fiona's child.  Maric liked the ladies. Nothing we have been told officially states that Fiona is Alistair's mother.

[Master Warder Z_]

I liked The Calling. It gives a different perspective.  I liked Asunder better.  Stolen Throne it depends.  It jumps around a bit too much in the timeline for me.  I vary between stolen throne and callling for least favorite.

 

I like them all.

 

BTW it is fanfiction/head canon that Alistair is Fiona's child.  Maric liked the ladies. Nothing we have been told officially states that Fiona is Alistair's mother.

 

Honestly the more we learn about the dude the less he was faithful to the woman he was pledged to.

 

._. Poor Rowan

 

Loghain really should have taken her away.

[thats1evildude]

If I know that Fiona and Maric hook up and have baby Alistair, can I skip The Calling and start reading Asunder? Will I miss out on anything important in The Calling that I don't already know from Awakening?

 

No, not really.

 

 

The Calling is a decent read, but I think you can skip it, or just jump to the ending.

 

Oh sure, you might gain a little insight into Duncan's character, but let's face it: Duncan is now a dead minor NPC who served his one important function in the storyline. If you read The Calling, you'll learn why he seems to prefer recruiting street rats and cutpurses, but is that really important? Fiona is also a pretty minor character in the scheme of things, and any narrative relevance Maric had ended with the most recent comics. Awakening basically sums up everything you need to know about the Architect.

 

The Calling and The Stolen Throne were written at a time when they were still flushing out the setting and there's some stuff in both books that just doesn't fit the lore/the stuff that came later. You might even find these things confusing. If you're having trouble getting into either book, I wouldn't bother finishing it.

[TataJojo]

Well you still have time before DAI and if you're already halfway through...

[Will-o'-wisp]

Good thing I know for certain that I won't read "The Calling". I hated Maric in "Stolen Throne" and from what I've heard and read from the wiki so far, Fiona is annoying as well. Not a big Duncan fan either and the Architect alone is not enough for me to try and struggle through characters that I probably can't stand anyway.

I read Asunder though, and it didn't feel like I missed anything by skipping one book in the Franchise.

[GVulture]

The Calling was my least favorite of the books.

 

I'd still say you should read Stolen Throne, that's the best one.

TST was alright. Just made me sad for Loghain and Rowan.

[wcholcombe]

 

No, not really.

 

 

The Calling is a decent read, but I think you can skip it, or just jump to the ending.

 

Oh sure, you might gain a little insight into Duncan's character, but let's face it: Duncan is now a dead minor NPC who served his one important function in the storyline. If you read The Calling, you'll learn why he seems to prefer recruiting street rats and cutpurses, but is that really important? Fiona is also a pretty minor character in the scheme of things, and any narrative relevance Maric had ended with the most recent comics. Awakening basically sums up everything you need to know about the Architect.

 

The Calling and The Stolen Throne were written at a time when they were still flushing out the setting and there's some stuff in both books that just doesn't fit the lore/the stuff that came later. You might even find these things confusing. If you're having trouble getting into either book, I wouldn't bother finishing it.

 

Nah, the biggest appeal of the calling has more to do with understanding the actual idea of the grey wardens.

 

I am not sure there is much in either book that you can truly say doesn't fit.  Gaider was asked on the old forum if Calling or Stolen throne had a bunch of stuff that didn't seem to fit in DA2 that we should disregard and his response was basically that cultures and things change, just because things don't jive from stolen throne to da 2 or DAO doesn't mean it was inaccurate then, just that situations may have changed.

 

don't ask me to find said quote, I have no idea what thread that was on anymore.

[Vulpe]

You'll miss Duncan's one night stand with a young mage girl named Vivian... and some other things 

[katerinafm]

You don't have to read the books before Asunder in order to read it and get everything. I read Asunder first and it takes place in a different place and with different characters than The Stolen Throne and The Calling, so you're good.

[happy_daiz]

I liked The Calling. It gives a different perspective. I liked Asunder better. Stolen Throne it depends. It jumps around a bit too much in the timeline for me. I vary between stolen throne and callling for least favorite.

I like them all.

BTW it is fanfiction/head canon that Alistair is Fiona's child. Maric liked the ladies. Nothing we have been told officially states that Fiona is Alistair's mother.

Wait, what about that whole Goldanna thing, with their mother dying in childbirth? How could Fiona be his mother? I must have missed something.

All I've read is Asunder and The Stolen Throne, both of which I really liked. I feel like I should be reading some of the others, but never knew which.

[GVulture]

Wait, what about that whole Goldanna thing, with their mother dying in childbirth? How could Fiona be his mother? I must have missed something.

All I've read is Asunder and The Stolen Throne, both of which I really liked. I feel like I should be reading some of the others, but never knew which.

Supposedly, Fiona and Marric's baby matched the World of Thedas' official birthday for Alistair of 9:10 Dragon. So, as far as fan theories go... fairly accurate. Chances are that Goldanna and her mother was just a convenient story cooked up to hide his parentage.

[happy_daiz]

Supposedly, Fiona and Marric's baby matched the World of Thedas' official birthday for Alistair of 9:10 Dragon. So, as far as fan theories go... fairly accurate. Chances are that Goldanna and her mother was just a convenient story cooked up to hide his parentage.

That makes sense. Thanks!

[Grieving Natashina]

Supposedly, Fiona and Marric's baby matched the World of Thedas' official birthday for Alistair of 9:10 Dragon. So, as far as fan theories go... fairly accurate. Chances are that Goldanna and her mother was just a convenient story cooked up to hide his parentage.

Hold the phone.  You mean to tell me that Alistair was only 20 when met the Warden?  Wow.  He was maybe old enough to legally drink in the US by the time Origins ended and here he is saving the world.

 

Thanks for starting this thread.  I was curious about the same thing.  I might have to get the other two books.  Some folks are throwing the term "Mary Sue" around again and after reading Asunder, I still have no clue why they think that way.

[wcholcombe]

Supposedly, Fiona and Marric's baby matched the World of Thedas' official birthday for Alistair of 9:10 Dragon. So, as far as fan theories go... fairly accurate. Chances are that Goldanna and her mother was just a convenient story cooked up to hide his parentage.

Except Alistair has no elvish features. Also considering the two books Maric is in he sleeps with 3 different women, one his wife. Sorry its possible but I don't think Alistair is Fiona's.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Except Alistair has no elvish features. Also considering the two books Maric is in he sleeps with 3 different women, one his wife. Sorry its possible but I don't think Alistair is Fiona's.

Feynriel doesn't have any elvish features either, yet we know he is half-elf. 

[Zack_Nero]

Actually I don't think Alistair is the child of Fiona, Maric had Alistair after his wife (Rowan) died but before he meet Fiona.  I think that is for a few reason, one being that there is going to be a son of Maric on the throne.  Cause Alistair can die, be a drunk, or stay as a Grey Warden.  However, I would still recommend you read the Calling cause it really does give a good insight to the Architect.  Aside from that, yea there is a third son and Fiona isn't Alistair's mother.

[wcholcombe]

Feynriel doesn't have any elvish features either, yet we know he is half-elf.

Umm Feynriel has decidedly elven features. No there is no pointy ears but he does have the slight build and small features of half elves. There is nothing slight or small about his features.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Actually I don't think Alistair is the child of Fiona, Maric had Alistair after his wife (Rowan) died but before he meet Fiona.  I think that is for a few reason, one being that there is going to be a son of Maric on the throne.  Cause Alistair can die, be a drunk, or stay as a Grey Warden.  However, I would still recommend you read the Calling cause it really does give a good insight to the Architect.  Aside from that, yea there is a third son and Fiona isn't Alistair's mother.

No, he didn't. Both Fiona's child and Alistair were born on the same year.