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[ladyofpayne]

Party from mages? BAH! Game designer nightmare!

[Leoroc]

Not that sex came up in conversation but Justice was likely just as clueless about it as Cole. I know David says he was fumctionally a child but if that was his intent he did a poor job of it, Cole came off imo as definitively adolescent. Between the events of Awakening and Inquisition he could definitely arc and mature. 

 

Maybe no sex scene, but a bond and a kiss don't see far fetched.

 

For the other I was hopingfor Charade but doubt there will be two female archers.

 

A bard could be cool too.

[The Elder King]

Not that sex came up in conversation but Justice was likely just as clueless about it as Cole. I know David says he was fumctionally a child but if that was his intent he did a poor job of it, Cole came off imo as definitively adolescent. Between the events of Awakening and Inquisition he could definitely arc and mature. 
 
Maybe no sex scene, but a bond and a kiss don't see far fetched.
 
For the other I was hopingfor Charade but doubt there will be two female archers.
 
A bard could be cool too.

Justice isn't a LI in DA2. Anders is.

[Steppenwolf]

I think there's a guerrilla theory that moustache guy is an arcane warrior (hence, a mage), wielding a staff and a sword. He certainly doesn't look clothed properly for a warrior. 

 

Look at the original art from the leak again. He's got armor on his legs, arms and chest. Plus, that "staff" is entirely utilitarian and would be useless for an arcane warrior. Plus, devs have already said that implementing the arcane warrior spec would be difficult and not likely(iirc) and that character is much older than those posts. Nothing actually points to him being a mage.

[azarhal]

I'm pretty sure that Solas, Vivienne and Varric were all *internally* designed and confirmed as companions months if not years before the survey was even published. I don't think it's accurate that the roster of survey companions was everyone that they had in mind, and everybody else was created later. Given that they were aiming to release in late 2013, I imagine that the companion list was well and truly finished by August 2012, if not significantly earlier. There simply isn't time to cut and redesign people like that, not when so many other departments (art, cinematics, the other writers) depend on things being locked down as early as possible.

 

In fact, David even said just a few days ago that Maevaris Tilani was created for the comics *too late* to make it into DA Inquisition in any meaningful form, and her first appearance in the comic was the same month (August 2012) as the survey came out. She would've had to be designed months before that, given how long those comics take to produce. 

 

When you think of the amount of work that goes into concepting, designing and implementing companions into the game, I just can't imagine that they'd cut and change people as easily as some fans think. By the time that survey leaked, I'd expect it was far too late to change the companion roster as drastically as cutting three people or whatever - and that aside, I'm pretty sure Varric, Vivienne and Solas existed anyway (just not in the survey).

 

While all the companions were decided prior to August 2012 (dev talked bringing the ones from the cancelled DA2 expansion even), it doesn't mean that none were cut afterward because of time constraint and/or plot changes. This is what happened to Shale in DAO and she was cut after they started recording her VO.

[ElitePinecone]

Look at the original art from the leak again. He's got armor on his legs, arms and chest. Plus, that "staff" is entirely utilitarian and would be useless for an arcane warrior. Plus, devs have already said that implementing the arcane warrior spec would be difficult and not likely(iirc) and that character is much older than those posts. Nothing actually points to him being a mage.

 

On the contrary, I think the staff is entirely useless as a pike. The top bit is almost ceremonial with the crescent shape, and he's holding it like a magic staff.

 

(In fact, looking at it again the staff looks nothing like a pike that anyone would actually use in combat. It's way too thin and doesn't even look like it's made of iron or steel.)

 

An arcane warrior could look deceptively like an actual warrior precisely because the artists want to make a mage who looks militaristic - remember that their armour and weapons are extensions of the character. A staff that looks reminiscent of a pike would be a plausible way to achieve this effect.

[Fetunche]

Im hoping Iron Bull is a rogue, if I have to have one to unlock stuff I'd prefer him to the alternatives. I also hope there's another Mage as I don't think much of the two they've shown so far.

[Chanda]

Im hoping Iron Bull is a rogue, if I have to have one to unlock stuff I'd prefer him to the alternatives. I also hope there's another Mage as I don't think much of the two they've shown so far.

 

I didn't like Merrill or Anders. But I'm willing to give Viv and Solas a chance.

[Aner91]

This "mustasch" man are intriguing me more and more, but....i just got this feeling he is not a companion and that's fine by me, but i wouldn't turn him down if we could have him in our party

[Tevinter Soldier]

"Dorian Pavus is a Tevinter Magister. The title conjures fear of arcane master who once enslaved nations. Dorian may wield the power of the magisters, but he delights in not being what you would expect. Brazen and clever, this outcast is on a crusade to rid his homeland of corruption."

 

Aww damn it! finally a tevinter mage and he's a *****

[Chanda]

Aww damn it! finally a tevinter mage and he's a *****

 

 

Maybe Dorian is the Surprise Meatballs?

[GVulture]

Justice/Anders was even less time. Cole is a spirit in a fantasy setting. Not sure he needs a decade.

Different circumstances there mate. Anders wasn't so much a radical change as it was he "lost his smile".

[Leoroc]

Justice isn't a LI in DA2. Anders is.

How is this relevant? I was describing hiw drastic a change Justice went through in just six months between DAOA and DA2 and the rules of age and maturity don't really apply to  spirits.

[happy_daiz]

Gah, which one is Dorian?

[The Elder King]

How is this relevant? I was describing hiw drastic a change Justice went through in just six months between DAOA and DA2 and the rules of age and maturity don't really apply to  spirits.

Justice's change was just caused by Anders' negative emotions.
Believe what you will, but i think you'll be disappointed.

[GVulture]

How is this relevant? I was describing hiw drastic a change Justice went through in just six months between DAOA and DA2 and the rules of age and maturity don't really apply to  spirits.

It wasn't drastic if you paid attention to Awakening's Justice/Anders banter. It was ALL foreshadowing, dude.

 

Also, when Justice and Anders merged, Anders was the predominate personality. He was still ANDERS, he just had Justice muddling around in his head and experiencing things via Anders.

 

 

Justice's change was just caused by Anders' negative emotions.
Believe what you will, but i think you'll be disappointed.

It also took Justice more than what... 7 years to get to the point he is at the end of Dragon Age II.

 

Anyways. Off subject. IF Cole is a party member... making him a LI is total SQUICK country for me. So that is a giant no thanks for me. The rest of it... I don't see how Cole would have a stake in the Inquisition or how the Inquisitor would benefit from having him around as a companion. I don't see his narrative use to the story. Anything he might have useful about the Fade is being covered by Solas.

[Steppenwolf]

On the contrary, I think the staff is entirely useless as a pike. The top bit is almost ceremonial with the crescent shape, and he's holding it like a magic staff.

 

(In fact, looking at it again the staff looks nothing like a pike that anyone would actually use in combat. It's way too thin and doesn't even look like it's made of iron or steel.)

 

An arcane warrior could look deceptively like an actual warrior precisely because the artists want to make a mage who looks militaristic - remember that their armour and weapons are extensions of the character. A staff that looks reminiscent of a pike would be a plausible way to achieve this effect.

 

Google "medieval pike" and you can see how many pikes were very much ornate and still effective weapons. Mustache-guy's pike is downright utilitarian compared to many pikes.

And what about the pike doesn't look like metal? It's no thinner than real pikes and it's clearly not wood.

 

 

Plus, you can't say "it doesn't even look like a pike so he's not a warrior" and then say "he's a mage because he's got a staff that looks like a pike." 

[syllogi]

You know, now that I think about it, Cole could be a very interesting companion, if handled carefully.  

 

Perhaps he's already been announced as a companion, BUT WE ALL FORGOT.  

[Chanda]

Google "medieval pike" and you can see how many pikes were very much ornate and still effective weapons. Mustache-guy's pike is downright utilitarian compared to many pikes.

And what about the pike doesn't look like metal? It's no thinner than real pikes and it's clearly not wood.

 

 

Plus, you can't say "it doesn't even look like a pike so he's not a warrior" and then say "he's a mage because he's got a staff that looks like a pike." 

 

So he's holding a staff and drawing a sword? I always wondered why he was holding it kind of funny. The staff, i mean. But that makes sense, now. So I guess chances are really good that he is an arcane warrior. But then I'm confused because I never played that in Origins. Is an Arcane warrior a mage, or a warrior?

[Tevinter Soldier]

Maybe Dorian is the Surprise Meatballs?

 

I think something is lost culturally here, what are surprise meatballs and how does that apply to dorian, wanting to rid is homeland of "corruption" instead of embracing the arrogant, overtly self confident blood mage Magister vibe we get from the other Tevinter magisters we run into?

 

they tried to make us embrace the goat men, why do they insist on the only Tevinter companion not embracing being a Tevinter magister?

think of the distrust between Dorian and the Iron Bull in that circumstance?

or Dorian Praising the imperial chantry believing it is the rest of thedas has it wrong.

 

Why must the Imperium be seen as the bad guys, all the time. 

[Jaulen]

Origins was that unbalanced gender wise. Wynne, Morrigan, and Leliana AND Wynne wasn't a potential LI. Because Shale doesn't really count due to being a DLC character and not giving a crap about what gender in general.

 

 

*sigh*

 

No. DAO or DAI were NOT unbalanced.....just write out the characters....

 

NOT Considering DLC Characters:

 

DAO Had 4 males (Sten, Zevran, Alistair, Oghren; 2 romanceable), 3 females (Wynne, Morrigan, Leliana; 2 romanceable). Also had 2 rogues, 3 warriors, and 2 mages.

 

DA2 had 3 males (Fenris, Anders, Varric; 2 romanceable), 3 females (Isabella, Aveline, Merril; 2 romanceable). Also had 2 rogues (Varric, Isabella), 2 warriors (Aveline, Fenris), and 2 mages (Anders, Merril)

 

 

So for the three remaining unconfirmed character slots, we will not be getting all three of : Cole, Warden Guy, or Fancy Mustache.

 

There's a whole ton of balance there.

No way this game is going to be 6 to 3.

 

There will be 5 males....Varric, Solas, Iron Bull and 2 human males (warrior and mage is my guess)

There will be 4 females....Vivienne, Cassandra, Sera, and one as yet non-ID'd female (rogue is my guess)

[The Elder King]

You forgot Oghren, Jaulen.

[GVulture]

You forgot Oghren, Jaulen.

And Dog.

 

Dragon Age II also had the siblings, but I see the argument in leaving them out.

[Jaulen]

You forgot Oghren, Jaulen.

 

I have forgotten Oghren!

 

Have added him in.

 

Still pretty balanced sex and class-wise.