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[Vapaa]

I'm biased, but I hope Dorian is a companion but not Cole, and thus I'm grasping at every straw to convince myself that will happen.

 

Cole is a child, and I don't want a child in my party, this is serious business for grown-ups, and beyond that I don't see what Cole would bring on the table. Dorian meanwhile would have the always interesting point of view of a former "insider" who became sick of his homeland's antics, but still wants to improve it.

[ElitePinecone]

He's not invisible in the Fade, and the Fade Tears could possibly cause him to be visible all the time, or at least while near a Fade Tear.  And, even if he is invisible, the Inquisitor's connection to the Fade might cause the Inquisitor to be able to see  him at all times, even if other party members can't--which may lead to some interesting dialogue.

 

"Who are you speaking to, Inquisitor?"

"Cole."

"Who's Cole?"

"Cole's the person I was just speaking to."

"There's no one else here but you and I."

 

And so forth.

 

David had a fun take on this a while back - though his was more about the fact that everyone forgets Cole. 

 

And I think this might actually be the drawcard of Cole's character. If nobody but the player can see him, that in itself is an intriguing narrative hook. There are only so many times they can pull the "who are you talking to?" thing, but I can't really remember a similar situation in a Bioware game before. 

 

(Not to mention that discovering what Cole actually is, is itself an interesting proposition. Is he a demon with the memories of someone he didn't possess? Can he somehow become human? Why does nobody remember or see him?)

[Nocte ad Mortem]

(Not to mention that discovering what Cole actually is, is itself an interesting proposition. Is he a demon with the memories of someone he didn't possess? Can he somehow become human? Why does nobody remember or see him?)

That's mostly what's interesting to me. I find him the most interesting concept so far because we'd get to see first hand the nature of fade spirits/demons, which is a totally different thing than taking someone's word for it. It seems we'll get to explore either sending him in the downward spiral towards becoming a demon, or bringing him back from it. To me, that's incredibly intriguing. Before his character I don't think anyone was even theorizing that demons could "come back" from it. 

[GVulture]

David had a fun take on this a while back - though his was more about the fact that everyone forgets Cole. 

 

And I think this might actually be the drawcard of Cole's character. If nobody but the player can see him, that in itself is an intriguing narrative hook. There are only so many times they can pull the "who are you talking to?" thing, but I can't really remember a similar situation in a Bioware game before. 

 

(Not to mention that discovering what Cole actually is, is itself an interesting proposition. Is he a demon with the memories of someone he didn't possess? Can he somehow become human? Why does nobody remember or see him?)

So he is the Silence? Do not want.

[Ispan]

David had a fun take on this a while back - though his was more about the fact that everyone forgets Cole. 

 

And I think this might actually be the drawcard of Cole's character. If nobody but the player can see him, that in itself is an intriguing narrative hook. There are only so many times they can pull the "who are you talking to?" thing, but I can't really remember a similar situation in a Bioware game before. 

 

(Not to mention that discovering what Cole actually is, is itself an interesting proposition. Is he a demon with the memories of someone he didn't possess? Can he somehow become human? Why does nobody remember or see him?)

 

When you guys talk about Cole (haven't read Asunder yet, so going off of what I read here) it makes the wording on the DA website sound funny:

 

"Lead a party chosen from nine unique, fully-realized characters – each of whom react to your actions and choices differently, forming complex relationships both with you and with each other."

 

The reads-too-much-into-every-word side of me giggles at the "fully-realized characters" phrase. Is Cole fully-realized?  Maybe he sneaks into the game on a technicality!  I don't particularly believe this, I just love thinking about the different ways words can be interpreted.

[Former_Fiend]

I just do not see that working as a companion. As a reoccurring NPC? Sure. You can do a lot with that. As a companion it's either going to be convoluted to the point of annoyance or trivial to the point that it begs the question why include Cole at all if you're not going to include his defining character trait?

 

It's also worth pointing out that in Asunder, Cole displays precisely zero combat ability whatsoever. He gets into one fight and gets beaten with laughable ease. His invisibility schitck makes him perfect for stealth kills, but that seriously limits his utility as a companion. 

 

And sure, that could have changed, but again, it's not really Cole if you bring him in like that.

[GVulture]

I just do not see that working as a companion. As a reoccurring NPC? Sure. You can do a lot with that. As a companion it's either going to be convoluted to the point of annoyance or trivial to the point that it begs the question why include Cole at all if you're not going to include his defining character trait?

 

It's also worth pointing out that in Asunder, Cole displays precisely zero combat ability whatsoever. He gets into one fight and gets beaten with laughable ease. His invisibility schitck makes him perfect for stealth kills, but that seriously limits his utility as a companion. 

 

And sure, that could have changed, but again, it's not really Cole if you bring him in like that.

Maybe like Brass suggested, he only appears near the Veil Tears. Maybe it is him that is actually closing the Veil or helping the Inquisitor close the Veil. That might work...

[Former_Fiend]

Oh, hell no. I don't want my PC's whole schtick being suplanted by this guy.

[Vapaa]

Oh, hell no. I don't want my PC's whole schtick being suplanted by this guy.

 

And it's already rumored that it's the Inquistor's unique power to close veil tears.

[GVulture]

Heh. Just a thought. I just really don't see what Cole can bring to the game other than people wanting some weird Castiel knockoff.

[SurelyForth]

Maybe like Brass suggested, he only appears near the Veil Tears. Maybe it is him that is actually closing the Veil or helping the Inquisitor close the Veil. That might work...

 

I actually love this idea. He would never be selectable for combat, but he would certainly be a presence on Team Inquisitor when needed. He could easily show up in other capacities, thus making his character meaningful without taking a companion spot or needing to work around his, uh, issues. 

[KirstyLionheart]

The companions I'm hoping for are all in that art.

Regarding cole -- we know the inquisitor has some mysterious ability to close the rifts (but how?). As some have suggested, Cole could have something to do with that. Not as a companion but.. perhaps the inquisitor is possessed? That would be a first.. the protagonist possessed by a demon, except this time, for the good of Thedas.

Kind of exciting but also makes me feel a little uneasy... inquisitor possessed by Cole.

 

EDIT: Nevermind.. ^^^ posted a very similar theory.

[Swoopdogg]

One more dwarf and one more woman, most likely (for ratio's sake). They may  have one more mage and one more rogue, but in the past we've only ever had 2 mages (I mean, in DA2 we had Bethany as sort of an extra, so who knows). So if they don't add another mage, I'm guessing they'll do another warrior and another rogue. If they do that, I'm hoping they have a dwarf warrior and female human rogue. That, or a female dwarf (for either of the classes) and then a male human for the other. Those are my most likely guesses, anyway. Could be anything.

 

Sadly, I don't think we'll be getting a female Qunari (again, could be wrong!) So it looks like we'll just have to make our own.

[MidnightsFury]

Actually, I just really hope they leave the last two as a surprise. Can we please have SOME surprises left for the game?

[azarhal]

One more dwarf and one more woman, most likely (for ratio's sake). They may  have one more mage and one more rogue, but in the past we've only ever had 2 mages.

 

I already said this previously, seems like I will have to repeat it. The idea that the previous games didn't have more than 2 mages is BS. Limiting mages is not the trend in term of design. In DAO, only the Warriors had more than 2 choices of companions. In DA2, unless you had the Exiled Prince DLCs (paid content), you were limited to 2 of each classes in term of full companions (Merrill/Anders, Aveline/Fenris, Varric/Isabela).

 

The trend is to have 2 choices per class available for the entire game.

[JeffZero]

My post a few spaces above that one indicated that I don't necessarily believe the line that not all of the survey characters made it into the game. I think it's more likely that all of them did.

Without wanting to sound conspiratorial, I think it's possible for a developer to be slightly misleading in the interests of keeping the companion roster under wraps for as long as possible. After all, they'd hardly admit it if the survey was 100% accurate ("here's five or six confirmed companions, now we have no characters to talk about for the next eighteen months until launch").

Even more so because the survey was absolutely not meant to be leaked in the first place, and confirming it would give it legitimacy.

With you.

[The Elder King]

Actually, I just really hope they leave the last two as a surprise. Can we please have SOME surprises left for the game?

They already stated that 'some' will remain secret, so at least two won't be announced.

[Rawgrim]

Maybe we get some animal?

[icon132]

I have still yet to see a hot female companion but i know bioware is waiting to surprise us.

[Brass_Buckles]

I'm biased, but I hope Dorian is a companion but not Cole, and thus I'm grasping at every straw to convince myself that will happen.

 

Cole is a child, and I don't want a child in my party, this is serious business for grown-ups, and beyond that I don't see what Cole would bring on the table. Dorian meanwhile would have the always interesting point of view of a former "insider" who became sick of his homeland's antics, but still wants to improve it.

 

I don't have any problem with having a child in my party.  It'd be sort of like Grunt all over again, except Cole is both more dangerous and more personable.  And, he might be a bit more mature than he was in Asunder.  I'm not thinking "fully adult mind," but more along the lines of "sort of like a teenager."  Everything was scary to him in the book.

 

But, I'm of the opinion that, since we've seen virtually no art or screenshots or videos of him--unless that's him in the screenshot of the party vs. the troll--he's probably not a companion.  And personally I think that's a shame, because I do want Cole to be one of the final two companions, mostly because he's bound to have some unique perspective on the spirit/demon dichotomy, and spirits and demons in general.  Assuming, of course, he can parse any questions you happened to ask him.

 

As for Cole's combat ability, well... time has passed since the novel and Inquisition's setting.  Not only that, but everyone starts at level one.  And, he did help fight the archdemon in the Fade.  Give the kid a fair chance.

 

That said, I believe our final two will be rounded out by Dorian and either someone we don't know about yet, or Cullen.  I'd rather we have one more female and Cole, but I don't get to make these decisions.

[wiccame]

The old bearded guy looks a bit like Duncan.....What if he didn't die at Ostagar and never went on his calling, and tags along as a companion....

 

And Cullen better be a companion or I shall be throwing evil eye daggers at my monitor the whole time I play 

[Danny Boy 7]

I expect these people are almost definitely all going to be in there...

 

Cassandra: Two-Handed Warrior (Default Weapon)

Varric: Archer Rogue (Default)

Vivienne: Damage Dealer Mage (Default)

Solas: Healer Mage (Default)

• I think he might be the mage that Maevaris Tilani (from Dragon Age: Those Who Speak) mentions to Alistair and the group (before I continue just want to say that this is completely speculation and that I have no evidence). She mentions the Dalish and a Magister exiled to the Anderfels that had the ability to graft spirits to people in order to heal them. That kind of ability just seems like something an elven mage who is coined as a Fade Expert would be able to do imo. Again totally speculation, but I think it could be interesting.

Iron Bull: Two-Handed Warrior (Default)

Sera: Archer Rogue (Default)

Beardy Grey Warden: Sword/Shield Warrior (Default)

 

And these are my thoughts on who could be filling those last two spots.

 

Cole: Dagger Rogue (Default)

• I think of all the Asunder characters Cole is the most likely to show up AND be a companion because he fills the gap (which isn't really a gap since they're able to change their weapons, but I digress) of the missing Dagger!Rogue. In the survey he was coined as a rogue and his abilities in the novel we're very "stealthy" so I think it points to him being a rogue. He's also tied to one of the major plots of the game (Mage/Templar War) via the Asunder novel. Also since demons and spirits are invading Thedas, and he's very much some kind of non-human character he ties into the main plot of the game quite well imo. As for why I think the other characters in Asunder are unlikely its because Rhys and Evangeline are very much a package deal, Fiona is probably leading the Mage Rebellion and Adrian is a close second if Solas doesn't oppose Vivienne's mage viewpoint and almost completely out of the running for  companion if he does imo.

Cullen: Sword/Shield Warrior (Default)

• I suspect  Cullen will either be a companion or major side NPC. Advisor as others have mentioned is a possibility though there was this image where they were showing the "cards" when deciding what the fort they had just captured would be used for (espionage, commerce, military) and those cards had faces on them which makes me think that someone else might be leading the Inquisition's armies. I'm also wondering why Cullen is wearing a similar uniform to Leliana in the War Room concept art. Anyway I don't think that he's nearly as redundant as people make him out to be, but I admit that his chances have gone down quite a bit.

Mustache Man: Two-Handed Warrior

• In his concept art he had a "staff" but he also had a sword which leads me to believe that the staff is actually the spear we've been seeing the Inquisitor using in gameplay videos. He may also be a member of one of those sub orders we've been speculating on as well.

 

Anyway I had more thoughts, but my head is a little scattered.

 

 

[Livia29]

I really really hope Cullen is a companion. I'd love if that companion concept art is correct 

[icon132]

what about her she is hot.